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There are some Black people... who do not consider themselves 'Black' the way White people mean it when they say 'Black People'. There are some Black people that can withstand a 'Black' joke from White people. There are some Black people that feel 'we ARE all the same'... that God makes no difference between us all.
There are some Black people, that do not identify as 'Black' but would rather be classified as 'African American'. Of course the word 'Black' has no real legal definition as a race. The word IS the name of a color; but Black people, simply do want to be classified, identified as a 'Black' since it generally means all the people who used to be American citizens' slave property. There are some Black people who abhor the word, term, slur, " *****" no matter who is saying it. There are some Black people who own the term and wouldn't exchange it for anything in the world.
There are some Black people who agree with the oppression of Black people as practiced through White supremacy and its markets. Markets? Democrat, Republican, Liberal, etc...All religion, government and all levels of education. These markets, all, are based on their view of the world, their location in the world. Whether Black people learn these markets well or not, none of them serve the existence of Black people. They may serve the maintenance of Black people insofar as it supports the existence of White supremacy/dominance.
Comedy and having a sense of humor is the intellectual and moral death of Black people. Light skinned Blacks vs. Dark skinned Blacks vs. straight hair Black vs. nappy headed Blacks. Africans vs. American born Blacks. The hatred and disdain and continual disrespect is innate. It is a staple in the culture of ' Black People'.
One thing that ALL non-Black People agree on...? Is that they all hate all Black People and really could enjoy this planet without them. Notice how well Non Black people adopt the idea of Blacks that come from White supremacy/Dominance. Latins, Italians, Japanese, Chinese, etc...they all agree with the idea of Blacks as purported by American whites/American white supremacy. Sure they are some that don't feel that way or think that way... I've heard those rumors too. But when a white person is informing a non Black person about America's Black people in general, as a whole, what do you think they say?
Black people, as a whole have become desensitized to the oppression. We shop, consume and entertain in the same venues with all other peoples so its difficult to identify the level of oppression. Much like it is difficult to identify a virus. we can perceive how it is passed around, but fail to find its pulse in any one individual.
We worship God together, don't we. We share the same church, don't we. We laugh at the same jokes and comedy, don't we. But more importantly, we make the same amount of money as anyone else in any given occupation, don't we. We feel that economic laws are not racist at all. Black people are a commodity in every economy. EVERY ECONOMY. There is not a wealthy person or family, or, one learned in economics that would contest this fact either. Of course it could be said that all races are a commodity; however with the Blacks of the earth there is a slight difference and ever since Rome that difference has been the backbone of European dominance upon earth.
Money and laughter is the God of Black people today. Gossip and self aggrandizement is the culture of Black people today. Our spiritual growth is rooted in our physical decay; once we ruin our bodies we get a spiritual focus that we realize we should have had all along our life. A Scripture Reads:
" I will show them MY signs within themselves and within the earth ". Any idea who 'them' is in this verse?
There are some Black people... who have lost their hearing when it comes to The Word(s) of The Most High. Our 'hearing' has been filled with false doctrines and religions in English. Yes, if its in English, it is wanting, The Most High guides the heart and blesses SINCERITY.. but these translations are the root of our intellectual demise concerning Scripture.
Scripture: God's narration written by a scribe chosen by God.
Book: a person writing from their own body of accumulated information. Big difference. Black people have been learning religion through translations of Scripture.
There are some Black people, who have learned to think that they don't need to learn anything to be close to God. That another language is not necessary for the task. They believe that their belief is crystallized and needs no upgrade. I say to this thinking that there is a tremendous blessing in learning the Speech by which The Most High created the Heavens and earth, Adam his mate and their children, the speech of The Angels, The speech of The Scriptures, which ascended into the language of Prophets and humanity.
The Most High invented Speech, Reading and Writing; not China nor Egypt. Amazing how Historians study all of the documents of man - instead of the histories of God, called Scripture. Yet claim God to be All-Knowing.
When White supremacy (i.e. Black tragedies) has driven all of the comedy and sense of humor out of Black people, perhaps then Black people will begin to love and unite in Truth with one another... Drop our imposed cultural differences and unite in a culture rooted in The Guidance of The Most High.
 

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QUOTE="Taahir, post: 1030520, member: 56650"]
There are some Black people... who do not consider themselves 'Black' the way White people mean it when they say 'Black People'. There are some Black people that can withstand a 'Black' joke from White people. There are some Black people that feel 'we ARE all the same'... that God makes no difference between us all.

There are some Black people, that do not identify as 'Black' but would rather be classified as 'African American'. Of course the word 'Black' has no real legal definition as a race. The word IS the name of a color; but Black people, simply do want to be classified, identified as a 'Black' since it generally means all the people who used to be American citizens' slave property. There are some Black people who abhor the word, term, slur, " *****" no matter who is saying it. There are some Black people who own the term and wouldn't exchange it for anything in the world.

There are some Black people who agree with the oppression of Black people as practiced through White supremacy and its markets. Markets? Democrat, Republican, Liberal, etc...All religion, government and all levels of education. These markets, all, are based on their view of the world, their location in the world. Whether Black people learn these markets well or not, none of them serve the existence of Black people. They may serve the maintenance of Black people insofar as it supports the existence of White supremacy/dominance.

Comedy and having a sense of humor is the intellectual and moral death of Black people. Light skinned Blacks vs. Dark skinned Blacks vs. straight hair Black vs. nappy headed Blacks. Africans vs. American born Blacks. The hatred and disdain and continual disrespect is innate. It is a staple in the culture of ' Black People'.

One thing that ALL non-Black People agree on...? Is that they all hate all Black People and really could enjoy this planet without them. Notice how well Non Black people adopt the idea of Blacks that come from White supremacy/Dominance. Latins, Italians, Japanese, Chinese, etc...they all agree with the idea of Blacks as purported by American whites/American white supremacy.

Sure they are some that don't feel that way or think that way... I've heard those rumors too. But when a white person is informing a non-Black person about America's Black people in general, as a whole, what do you think they say?

Black people, as a whole have become desensitized to the oppression. We shop, consume and entertain in the same venues with all other peoples so its difficult to identify the level of oppression. Much like it is difficult to identify a virus. we can perceive how it is passed around, but fail to find its pulse in any one individual.

We worship God together, don't we. We share the same church, don't we. We laugh at the same jokes and comedy, don't we. But more importantly, we make the same amount of money as anyone else in any given occupation, don't we. We feel that economic laws are not racist at all. Black people are a commodity in every economy. EVERY ECONOMY. There is not a wealthy person or family, or, one learned in economics that would contest this fact either.

Of course it could be said that all races are a commodity; however with the Blacks of the earth there is a slight difference and ever since Rome that difference has been the backbone of European dominance upon the Earth. Money and laughter is the God of Black people today. Gossip and self-aggrandizement is the culture of Black people today. Our spiritual growth is rooted in our physical decay; once we ruin our bodies we get a spiritual focus that we realize we should have had all along our life.

A Scripture Reads:
" I will show them MY signs within themselves and within the earth ". Any idea who 'them' is in this verse?

There are some Black people... who have lost their hearing when it comes to The Word (s) of The Most High. Our 'hearing' has been filled with false doctrines and religions in English.

Yes, if its in English, it is wanting, The Most-High guides the heart and blesses SINCERITY.. but these translations are the root of our intellectual demise concerning Scripture.

Scripture: God's narration written by a scribe chosen by God.
Book: a person writing from their own body of accumulated information. Big difference. Black people have been learning religion through translations of Scripture.

There are some Black people, who have learned to think that they don't need to learn anything to be close to God. That another language is not necessary for the task. They believe that their belief is crystallized and needs no upgrade.

I say to this thinking that there is a tremendous blessing in learning the Speech by which The Most High created the Heavens and earth, Adam his mate and their children, the speech of The Angels, The speech of The Scriptures, which ascended into the language of Prophets and humanity.

The Most High invented Speech, Reading and Writing; not China nor Egypt. Amazing how Historians study all of the documents of man - instead of the histories of God, called Scripture. Yet claim God to be All-Knowing.

When White supremacy (i.e. Black tragedies) has driven all of the comedy and sense of humor out of Black people, perhaps then Black people will begin to love and unite in Truth with one another... Drop our imposed cultural differences and unite in a culture rooted in The Guidance of The Most-High.
[/QUOTE] Maybe, maybe not, but do YOU feel better now for getting this so very depressed, totally defeated and CRUSHED perspective with regard to the ongoing African HOLOCAUST of over 500 years duration off of your chest?

Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?

 

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PEOPLE, isn't what Taahir is describing, all the GRIEF re RACISM/the ongoing white Supremacist Racist instigated and orchestrated African HOLOCAUST still being WHAT IS, in the 21st century, due to the fact that most people generally, people of African ethnicity specifically are still totally unaware of the so all-pervasive/devastating impact right up to TODAY of Europe’s first technical culture’s [Greece] thinkers generally; specifically, Platonic thought’s so obviously bizarre rationale fundamentally flawed CONCEIT with regard to the very spiritually and intellectually alienated concept of OBJECTIVITY [EVER being an even marginally plausible/rational means of viewing/discerning REALITY]?

When these alleged CHRISTIANS deploy as standard their/ALL European cultures RHETORICAL ETHICS base that utilizes egalitarian hype to hide their elitist overtly malevolvence towards their own lower echelons, with their hypocrisy and disarming LIES as standard literally going into overdrive in order to totally disorientate, confuse the rest of humanity/their prey?

For example isn’t being supposedly OBJECTIVE still utilized constantly TODAY within the current Euro-centric paradigm [all of which is analysed/superbly dissected in the book “Yurugu – An African centered critique of European Cultural Thought and Behaviour” by Marimba Ani] to project and promote the current totally Euro-centric status quo’s ongoing onslaught on Humanity generally, people of African ethnicity specifically as still being the only WAY TO GO, for Humanity in the 21st century; as highlighted by the ongoing African HOLOCAUST of over 500 years duration?

This so very obviously flawed profoundly delusionally elitist intellectual construct [Objectivity] along with Plato’s separation of mind and body/limbic brain drivel, is what to this day continues to define Europeans/Whites as Humanity’s BRAIN, isn’t it; reducing the rest of Humanity into OBJECTS/limbs to be manipulated, controlled, culled as Europeans see fit, as opposed to human beings with the same inalienable human rights with regard to freedom of expression, lifestyle, and self-determination in every area of human activity?

From that perspective, why should WE [non-whites generally, people of African ethnicity specifically] even consider continuing to go with their flow, as so very spectacularly highlighted by the manner in which whites generally, the KKKlansmen and their cohorts within the USA’s institutionally RACIST police specifically continue to murder African Americans without ever evem being censured, as opposed to fired, charged with murder and jailed, in that how could the USA and other European controlled countries ever have a genuinely benevolent foreign policy towards non-whites and people of African ethnicity while systematically attacking them in every area of human activity, resorting to mass incarceration and murder without the killers even being charged with a crime, as opposed to jailed domestically?

Additionally, as opposed to people of African ethnicity being any more individually or collectively inept than the rest of humanity [our masses are more STUPID than the white trash how exactly]?

In fact don't the status quo’s consistently corrupt formal systematic mis-eduction's schools, colleges, universities, mass, and social media totally ignore/keep out of the spotlight the maliciously EVIL manner in which our intelligently focused leaders like, Marcus Garvey, Kwame Nkrumah, Eric Williams have been either sidelined or murdered by traitors or our enemies as exemplified by the death of Patrice Lumumba, Malcolm X, Dr. Martin Luther King, Felix Mitchell, Steve Biko, Samora Machel, Thomas Sankara, Muammar Gaddafi [an Arab who did more for Africa than any African leader I can name, what about you] and far too many others?

However, aren’t the treacherous cowardly PARASITES, BLACK NEGROBOT TRAITORS in our communities and countries protected and encouraged and supported as standard, by the status quo?


Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?

 

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With regard to our alleged "Blackness" Taahir, PEOPLE, isn't there still a lot of confusion among the so very diverse ethnic mixes of people of African ethnicity worldwide with regard to WHO they really are [as highlighted by this post not being about students of African ethnicity STILL not being taught/ learning their true History in the UK and worldwide TODAY], in that are they Coloured, Negro, Black or African in terms of their ethnicity as opposed to nationality/culture?

In fact aren’t even the people within the very organizations groups and prominent individuals aspiring to lead our communities and countries in both the African Diaspora and Africa forward in the 21st century, our alleged luminaries/intelligentsia, still for the most part very consistently trapped in their alleged “BLACKNESS” as opposed to being aware, consciously focused on embracing the fact that we are diversely mixed groups of human beings of African ethnicity?

Isn’t the truly critical factor here how WE consciously discern/view and label ourselves as opposed to how the rest of Humanity generally, the current POWER ELITE/LUCIFERIAN LUNATICS inc Zionist Jews coalition and their assorted BANKSTER cohorts/melanin deficient VERMIN [and their lackeys, cohorts of varying ethnic origins/hues] specifically, who [continue to delude themselves that only they KNOW the WAY Humanity is meant to GO/GROW] have been decimating this planet and everything on it, for over 2000 years now; choose to label, or tag us?

When WE don't educate/rationally program ANY/ALL of our people to consciously acknowledge our African ethnicity [as opposed to alleged Blackness/how BLACK is Ziggy, Halle, Barack and many of the so diversely mixed peoples of African ethnicity] as a blessing as opposed to a curse; aren't we extremely unlikely to even think of beginning to fulfill our main responsibility; to deduce and construct the socio-economic vehicles that will initially adequately secure our communities and countries, creating the possibility of us eventually collectively advancing and competing with the rest of Humanity in the 21st century?

Why are we the only ethnic group on the planet using a colour [black as opposed to our original source, the African continent] to label our activities in every area of human activity as opposed to getting rid of one of the more obvious chains put in place over the last 500 years [as underlined by there being more than twice the number of USA citizens who label themselves as Irish and Swedish Americans, than the current population of Ireland or Sweden combined] whereas shouldn’t we make a pragmatically rational start by consciously embracing our African ethnicity?

What about the fact that in every census to date of our community in the USA with regard to how we would like to label ourselves, African has beaten Coloured, Negro and Black by a considerable margin as a rationalization of the fact that we cannot be as specific as the Italians, Greeks and Germans etc with regard to which part of [the African continent we originate from] our original home, we’re from?

How pragmatically useful are the majority of “Black Studies/Black History/Black Culture courses if the people constructing them are genuinely unaware, aren’t they, of the fact that language is the operating system of the human brain/Central Processing Unit [CPU] in a similar manner to Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8 is for computers; which is why doesn’t one have to be so consciously selective with regard to how it is used to disseminate uplifting TRUTHS/ KNOWLEDGE as opposed to the current onslaught of very poisonous negativity to all of our people in general, our youth/future/specifically?

For example, no one complains of being Africanlisted, or being Africanballed out of a clique, losing consciousness or all electrical power for whatever reason isn’t an Africanout, nor does anyone state that they’re not wearing a piece of clothing because it is African with dirt, it isn’t standard practice to lament when things have gone horribly wrong that it is a really African Day and no one has ever been jailed because there has been conclusive proof that they are an Africanmailer, whereas doesn’t substituting the word BLACK into all of these contexts place one on a sliding scale of very very inconvenient GRIEF, within the current still so totally Euro-centric paradigm/REALITY of the 21st century?

It is not too late, is it, for the African collective in the USA, UK, the rest of the Diaspora and Africa with regard to being far more carefully selective with regard to the language we utilize to describe ourselves, with ALL of our programs going out as African Studies/History/ Culture Lecture Series with regard to the African experience from an African perspective, thus at least starting out on the right foot as opposed to continuing to inject very easily avoidable negativity/rubbish as standard, into the minds of the people we’re aspiring to uplift?

I am not just being pedantic folks, this is very very important as underlined by the glitzy looking Black Cultural Archive opened in Brixton/South London [June 2014] not being the African Cultural Archive [THEY must just be laughing at us when even our alleged best and brightest luminaries/intelligentsia/elite, are genuinely still so totally baffled and confused]; in that my/this rationale isn’t ROCKET SCIENCE, is it?


Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?

 

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Orisons...I appreciate your approach, correction(s) and dissent(s).
According to the public record of history, as archived in education, The Demise and Entry of Africa into the European war chest began with our turning away from Our King and Government: The Most High and His Law. Our 'politicians were The Prophets and our constitution were Scripture. However, ever since The Prophet Joseph, son of Jacob, built what 'They' call The Pyramid (yes, Giza - the one still standing) and The Prophet Moses fled Egypt with People and goods, our nation exiled themselves from The Most High; the record is in the poorly translated version(s) of The Holy Bible; and it is extremely clear in the language of its original documentations, Aramaic. The Greek, Latin and English translations are in grave error. And it is these translations from which we, Black People/African People draw our comprehension. Even IN Africa they teach Christianity from an English translation of The Holy Bible. ANY Bibles that are not in English were transcribed from English INTO the language of any of the languages natural to the peoples of Africa.
Our current state of existence is not solely due to White supremacy in and of itself. Its conception and progression was/is due to our 'Turning away' from The Guidance of The Most High. The condition we are currently in is the result of what was foretold by The Scribes of The Bible. I ask you to read Hosea for starters. Albeit in English, the translators had no reason to corrupt the script. whereas they fail in true comprehension of the language, some verses just cannot be corrupted, no matter ones' intention to deceive or ecumenical depth or acumen.
By 'translators I refer to The Councils of Nicaea - the first occurring circa 325, the last occurring (In Rome for their Province in England) circa 1492. White Supremacy gets its validation... not only from the treachery of their own greed for this life's' treasures, peoples included, but also from knowing Scripture. The Most High has spoken to Us 'African/Black People', in Scripture (not books); However we cared not to hear it. Instead we exiled ourselves from The Embrace of The Most High. We are the progenitors of the Greek, Italian and Latin races of the earth - as we left off being bonded to our own women. If you would like a reference other than Scripture, I ask you to visit 'Shaykh Anta Diop' (also known as Cheik anta Diop). The Most High has stated our demise and our punishment as well as our means of Forgiveness and our consequent Way of life on this earth. Yet again, who will hear it? Who cares if it does not contain some money or aggrandizement and stature with White peoples?
NOW, our minds and spirits are filled with religions and education(s) fostered by our oppressors and we have been obliged to think that somehow we will learn something or achieve some degree of wealth that will free us and our people from whatever we identify as our 'condition'; be it poverty or lack of knowledge, etc.. personally, I think that we think that our salvation as a people will be achieved when we can live and think and behave with the absence of deference as White people do. They live as though they answer to no one and we have learned to desire the same. If we do not desire it, our definition of freedom definitely contains this madness.
Freedom: is the absence of threat... without acquiescence.
Our hegemony is so ingrained that even music (especially Rap) is integral to its reach into us.
I humbly submit that I have not gotten anything off of my chest, nor do I intend to just rant off some negativity by beating down the very people I aspire to uplift. I intend not to uplift but to correct; to perhaps show that the nucleus of our plight is our indifference to The Most High and our milk toast comprehension of what we have been taught is religion and education. It is all false. All of it. Our first step is to step away from The English language and interpreting our Reality via the same... At least using it (English) only as a microscope as we enter into a language that was designed for our physical, emotional and intellectual disposition.
When the soul interfaces the CPU (i.e. Brain - your acronym) this creates the Mind. When the soul interfaces the skeletal system, this is called the Spirit. The Brain and the Mind ARE NOT the same. Just as The Soul and the Spirit ARE NOT the same. Not knowing the distinction of things, between things, have portended for us (Black People) a warped view of Reality and a mis-located and mis-identified sense of self.
What we value is actually worthless and what would be important to us is only so for a time. we plant in winter instead of fall and we expect a return in summer instead of spring. Our way of life and living is solely based on our 'response' to the institutional hegemony, racism and race hatred that is malignant in our group. Our only refuge is The Guidance of The Most High; which has nothing to do with religion nor 'spirituality'; which is really our idea of owning/having the properties of religion without being obligated to a 'God'.
We are a nation of defunct self proclaimed philosophers and Ministers; as though we have 'cracked the code' of our oppressors and their oppression. Our oppression is so deep we are numb to it. No, I am not being negative Orisons; and if I am, am I not being truthful? Negativity has no remedy, just course. So here is where I depart from Negativity, Orisons.. I declare that our remedy is A return to The Most High as clearly laid bare in Scripture. That, our exile will be supervised and protected by The Most High as we cling to The Guidance and Law. Should you think now that I proselytize, I do not. I personally think and feel that there is not a Christian Preacher or Muslim Imaam or Jewish Rabbi or any leader of any religion or forged 'way' has been/nor is academically capable of teaching the truth AS IS WRITTEN IN THE SCRIPTURE THAT THEY PRETEND TO TOTE AND TEACH FROM. They swerve deeply from the inscribed truth. Our ignorance of Scripture gives them (i.e. Preacher, Politician, Procurer) all the cover they need... If they are not teaching from the original language of these texts, and they are not, they are misleading. Sincerity aside, academically they are murdering our Spirits' intelligence with their rhetoric. We are running in place, are we not? They are working their careers while we work to maintain the empire... and our Place in it.
 

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