Quiet Poetry Lounge : The Truth??

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  1. YungMiss

    YungMiss Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The Truth

    If truths are lies, then lies aren't truth
    And if truths the truth, then where's the proof?

    Don't tell me a great man once said
    Especially if that great man is dead

    Then all he knew is gone too
    And the truth you speak now is possibly something new

    You hand me artifacts and show me a fancy written copywrite
    But how do i know you didn't make this the other night?

    How do i know you aren't trying to decieve
    And feed me knowledge you want me to believe?

    You say my brain is poisned with someone elses knowledge
    You claim you know the path to righteousness because you went to college

    Well riddle me this.. who infact taught you the truths you have come to beleive?
    And how do you know you aren't the one who is being decieved?

    You are so quick to trample over the content of my brain
    And when others don't agree with you.. you suddenly go insane

    Hmm sounds to me as if you have been brainwashed
    But oh no you aint having that..oh gosh

    You argue the fact and go back and forth but the problem still stands
    What makes you think you're the one with all the answers man?

    Did a twinkling star come down at night and shine above you?
    And plea that everything you will hear is devine and true?

    How do you know that wasnt an optical allusion?
    Created to add to your mass confusion

    Which leads me to my conclusion

    Don't beleive everything you see
    And dont always think the things you don't see is where the truth will be

    Since you claim this world is full of lies
    If your truths become lies then don't be surprised

    If you wish to give me "facts" make sure they are straight facts without added seasoning
    And ill take those facts and choose what to beleive using deductive reasoning

    But along with those facts give me reasons I should believe
    And dont just tell me you should beleive because it comes from me

    Because there are many me's and alot of you's
    Plenty of lies and a lack of trues

    And if i choose not to follow you doesn't mean I am astray
    Just know my intentions are not to leave you in dismay

    But my mind body and soul are pulling me in a different way
    Whom is on the right path.. it's hard to say

    Because at the end of the day
    Just pray that we all will find our way

    If truths are lies, then lies aren't truth
    And if truths the truth, then where's the proof?

    YungMiss
     
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    Some of what ancestors knew as truth is recorded in some fashion thank goodness, for us to read and reflect upon. But, since even the most learned don't know everything, what we know, and how we came upon that knowledge, will be disputed by someone. We're learning all the time. Great topic, intricately posed.
     
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    There's nothing New nor hidden under the sun, as we all get doses here and there.
    Where does one search for truth? ...start with our history, for there are no lies in that!
    Enjoyed reading you poet.
     
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    YungMiss

    YungMiss
    This is a great poem and powerful flow.
    It has so much wisdom thruout.
    Each line touchs the thought process

    Thank you so much for sharing.

    This flow brings to mind the history of this nation. It is partly lies. Mostly untruths and it is shame we are taught these things and they have no truth at all.

    Take for instance. The Ride of Paul Revere. he didn't make that famous ride poemed into American History. he did ride but he went a short distance and stopped at a pub abd got drunk. The man who did the famous ride all the way was

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Bissell

    Israel Bissell (1752-1823) was a post rider in Massachusetts who alerted the American colonists of the British attack on April 19, 1775. He rode for four days and six hours covering the 345 miles from Watertown, Massachusetts to Philadelphia along the Old Post Road, shouting "To arms, to arms, the war has begun," and carrying a message from General Joseph Palmer which was copied at each of his stops and redistributed:

    Although Paul Revere is better known due to the epic poem by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, Bissell was the subject of the less well known "Ride, Israel, Ride," an epic poem by Marie Rockwood of Stockbridge. According to Syracuse University professor of television and popular culture, Robert Thompson, this is not representative of the relative importance or heroism of each feat; rather, "Paul Revere rhymes with a lot more than Israel Bissell". Bissell's place in history was even further smudged by several historical documents which refer to him as "Trail Bissel". Nevertheless, there were an unknown number of other riders whose names are now completely forgotten.


    The writer thought about this and decided. The name didn't rhyme like Paul Revere. Revere rode twenty miles.

    " Listen my friends and you shall hear. The midnight ride of Paul Revere. "

    Compared to " Listen my friends and you shall hear. The midnight ride of Israel Bissell. "



    http://www.boston.com/news/local/co...ell_outrode_paul_revere_yet_didnt_get_a_poem/

    By David Weber, Associated Press Writer | April 15, 2007
    BOSTON --Paul Revere gets all the glory for his midnight ride. After all, it was a stirring tale of patriotism told by a great storyteller.



    Another real untruth is Americans Indians didn't scalp whites as reported. They did tomohawk them in the head and some came off. The scalping happened and was started by the whites. They were payed so much per scalp like the buffalo payments they went on a Massacre of both and put them both very near Genocide.

    I am going to read your flow again... You spark the intelligence and intrigue the mind.
     
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    WOW..Thank you for sharing this bit of information with me. I learned about Paul Revere in middle school and they made such a big deal about him. I learned the information because I decided to be good at what ever I was "supposed" to learn. I decided if there were going to be standards then I would pass those standards with flying colors. Play the "game" and open doors and cast down my bucket..and then help others to do the same.

    Its nice to know the truth about things.. I don't like my information to be sugar coated...but if you dont have validation or an explanation for thinking in such a way then how am i supposed to believe. If i beleived every random thing people preeched id be in a nut house!

    Back to the Paul Revere subject the writter was full of it all they had to say was.

    " Listen my friends and I shall tell. The midnight ride of Israel Bissell"

    There was no need to lie..it just required to be re worded...smh.. at those who feels its easier to lie then tell the truth...
     
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    What I meant by new is the fact that simple messages can get distorted with/or without intentions to do so. I might say Tammy got a blue car she bought if from a barn. And the message can be misheard..and taken as Sammy got a new car she bought it from a farm. Which changes the whole picture. Over years simple details may be left out..but in most cases details are just as important..and many people have learned that details are not important...or they are not very good in remembering things detail by detail. So by the time you get a message something NEW could have been added or something OLD taken out which still creates a NEW message. Therefore you are left with a screened diluted message.
     
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    " Listen my friends and I shall tell. The midnight ride of Israel Bissell"

    YOU ARE SO BRILLIANT...:bowdown:
     
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    Gee Thanks.. :qqb018: :em4700:

    For you :flowers:
     
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    learning takes a lifetime

    yes praying for the right path is not a bad thing
    i always starting there

    and let the rest take it's course
     
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    wow...speechless here
     
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