Discussion in 'Black People Open Forum' started by Astrologer4U, May 6, 2009.
It just doesn't seem to stop, black people get turned into criminals so easily but no one ever talks about the origins of these things. Somali Pirates are mere fisherman who could no longer depend on fish in the sea due to contamination of their waters by Eurpeans who dump their toxic waist into the Somali waters. Today Fisherman, tomorrow pirates... what tha!
Know your history, your history explains who you are today.
This is sickening...
This sista is telling it... The big picture.
I just wish they woouldn't just harbor over what we are not condoning and how the somali fisherman should be held accountable. What about the people who were dumping toxic wasted into Smali waters, they should be accountable as well.
yes very true
oldsoul put a thread up earlier this year about this and you reinforce that
we must stay aware
i don't see how Black People can view "these" "pirates" as the "enemy" lol
knowing our history and present condition
i had one black guy tell me they all should be killed
you know i had to get in his *** right? lol
and when i finished he was like WOW!
i never thought of it like that
i said sadly most don't
and i'm glad you're not one of "them" (lol) sista A4U
thanks for posting this
keep the awareness up
keep the pressure on
i feel the pain too.
Anytime they claim people of color, especially Africans/African Americans are doing something illegal or try to make us out to be the bad participant I always seek alternative news because I don't believe ish on CNN, NBC or any of those yellow journalistic media forms
these same tactics have been used against the dark continent for quite some time now....are you really suprised? i know i'm not...
since the day and age the world converted from a barter system to a money based system...money has been making the moves and setting the rules....
if you don't have loot then ur dead in the water...
africa is gonna have to learn how to stand up for theirs...or else
they will continue to get raped time and time again....
Columnist, London Independent
Posted: January 4, 2009
You Are Being Lied to About Pirates
Who imagined that in 2009, the world's governments would be declaring a new War on Pirates? As you read this, the British Royal Navy - backed by the ships of more than two dozen nations, from the US to China - is sailing into Somalian waters to take on men we still picture as parrot-on-the-shoulder pantomime villains. They will soon be fighting Somalian ships and even chasing the pirates onto land, into one of the most broken countries on earth. But behind the arrr-me-hearties oddness of this tale, there is an untold scandal. The people our governments are labeling as "one of the great menace of our times" have an extraordinary story to tell -- and some justice on their side.
Pirates have never been quite who we think they are. In the "golden age of piracy" - from 1650 to 1730 - the idea of the pirate as the senseless, savage thief that lingers today was created by the British government in a great propaganda-heave. Many ordinary people believed it was false: pirates were often rescued from the gallows by supportive crowds. Why? What did they see that we can't? In his book Villains of All nations, the historian Marcus Rediker pores through the evidence to find out. If you became a merchant or navy sailor then - plucked from the docks of London's East End, young and hungry - you ended up in a floating wooden Hell. You worked all hours on a cramped, half-starved ship, and if you slacked off for a second, the all-powerful captain would whip you with the Cat O' Nine Tails. If you slacked consistently, you could be thrown overboard. And at the end of months or years of this, you were often cheated of your wages.
Pirates were the first people to rebel against this world. They mutinied against their tyrannical captains - and created a different way of working on the seas. Once they had a ship, the pirates elected their captains, and made all their decisions collectively. They shared their bounty out in what Rediker calls "one of the most egalitarian plans for the disposition of resources to be found anywhere in the eighteenth century." They even took in escaped African slaves and lived with them as equals. The pirates showed "quite clearly - and subversively - that ships did not have to be run in the brutal and oppressive ways of the merchant service and the Royal navy." This is why they were popular, despite being unproductive thieves.
The words of one pirate from that lost age - a young British man called William Scott - should echo into this new age of piracy. Just before he was hanged in Charleston, South Carolina, he said: "What I did was to keep me from perishing. I was forced to go a-pirating to live." In 1991, the government of Somalia - in the Horn of Africa - collapsed. Its nine million people have been teetering on starvation ever since - and many of the ugliest forces in the Western world have seen this as a great opportunity to steal the country's food supply and dump our nuclear waste in their seas.
Yes: nuclear waste. As soon as the government was gone, mysterious European ships started appearing off the coast of Somalia, dumping vast barrels into the ocean. The coastal population began to sicken. At first they suffered strange rashes, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died. Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, the UN envoy to Somalia, tells me: "Somebody is dumping nuclear material here. There is also lead, and heavy metals such as cadmium and mercury - you name it." Much of it can be traced back to European hospitals and factories, who seem to be passing it on to the Italian mafia to "dispose" of cheaply. When I asked Ould-Abdallah what European governments were doing about it, he said with a sigh: "Nothing. There has been no clean-up, no compensation, and no prevention."
At the same time, other European ships have been looting Somalia's seas of their greatest resource: seafood. We have destroyed our own fish-stocks by over-exploitation - and now we have moved on to theirs. More than $300m worth of tuna, shrimp, lobster and other sea-life is being stolen every year by vast trawlers illegally sailing into Somalia's unprotected seas. The local fishermen have suddenly lost their livelihoods, and they are starving. Mohammed Hussein, a fisherman in the town of Marka 100km south of Mogadishu, told Reuters: "If nothing is done, there soon won't be much fish left in our coastal waters."
This is the context in which the men we are calling "pirates" have emerged. Everyone agrees they were ordinary Somalian fishermen who at first took speedboats to try to dissuade the dumpers and trawlers, or at least wage a 'tax' on them. They call themselves the Volunteer Coastguard of Somalia - and it's not hard to see why. In a surreal telephone interview, one of the pirate leaders, Sugule Ali, said their motive was "to stop illegal fishing and dumping in our waters... We don't consider ourselves sea bandits. We consider sea bandits [to be] those who illegally fish and dump in our seas and dump waste in our seas and carry weapons in our seas." William Scott would understand those words.
No, this doesn't make hostage-taking justifiable, and yes, some are clearly just gangsters - especially those who have held up World Food Programme supplies. But the "pirates" have the overwhelming support of the local population for a reason. The independent Somalian news-site WardherNews conducted the best research we have into what ordinary Somalis are thinking - and it found 70 percent "strongly supported the piracy as a form of national defence of the country's territorial waters." During the revolutionary war in America, George Washington and America's founding fathers paid pirates to protect America's territorial waters, because they had no navy or coastguard of their own. Most Americans supported them. Is this so different?
Did we expect starving Somalians to stand passively on their beaches, paddling in our nuclear waste, and watch us snatch their fish to eat in restaurants in London and Paris and Rome? We didn't act on those crimes - but when some of the fishermen responded by disrupting the transit-corridor for 20 percent of the world's oil supply, we begin to shriek about "evil." If we really want to deal with piracy, we need to stop its root cause - our crimes - before we send in the gun-boats to root out Somalia's criminals....
You Are Being Lied to About Pirates
Who imagined that in 2009, the world's governments would be declaring a new War on Pirates? As you read this, the British Royal Navy - backed by the ship...
Somali Pirates Seize Tanker With 17 Crew
VOA News 24 October 201
Suspected Somali pirates have seized a vessel with 17 crew members off the coast of Kenya.
The European Union's anti-piracy force says the MV York was hijacked Saturday about 90 kilometers east of the Kenyan port of Mombasa.
It says a helicopter sent by a Turkish warship flew over the vessel and confirmed that pirates with weapons were on board.
The York is a Singapore-flagged liquified petroleum gas tanker. Its crew includes one German, two Ukrainians, and 14 Filipinos.
The ship's operator, the Athens-based Interunity Management Corporation, reports that the tanker is sailing toward the Somali coast.
The EU force says Somali pirates are now holding 19 ships with 428 hostages.
Naval forces from the EU, NATO, and several individual countries are patrolling waters near Somalia to combat piracy.
Despite the patrols, Somali pirates continue to seize ships and receive multi-million dollar ransoms for their release.
The EU force noted that another recently hijacked ship, the fishing vessel Golden Wave, was seen in the vicinity of the York. That could suggest the pirates are using the Golden Wave as a "mother ship" to launch their attacks.
Somali Pirates Seize Tanker With 17 Crew
MV York was hijacked about 90 kilometers east of the Kenyan port of Mombasa
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