Brother AACOOLDRE : The Tree of life in the Bible

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    Adam would die if he ate from the tree of knowledge?

    The Myth: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die (Gen 2:17).

    The Reality: The purpose of this story is to condemn the Egyptian idea that knowledge of moral order {Maat} would lead to Eternal life, which conflicted with Hebrew monotheistic teachings. It’s a sophisticated attack upon Egyptian philosophical doctrines in the OT but when the NT is released Jesus became the deity Shu and reclaims the role of the Tree of life). From Egyptian deities into trees.

    The relationship between moral order and eternal life lay behind the biblical story about the Tree of knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life. Yet, despite the close parallels between the two descriptions, there is one glaring conflict. In the Egyptian text, Nun (the great flood) urged Atumb(Adam) to eat of his daughter Tefnut (moral order) giving him access to knowledge of moral order. In genesis, God forbade Adam to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, denying him access to moral knowledge. Along with the Tree of knowledge being based on moral order of Maat. The Ten commandments were also based on the 42 declaration of Maat. Jesus modified the Ten commandments to focus on love rather than the death penalty for some of the Ten orders.

    This inconsistency appears in the face of a moral conundrum in the biblical account. It would seem that god lied and the serpent told the truth. Initially, god ordered Adam not to eat from the tree of knowledge, telling him that he would die on the very day that he did so. Yet, later, after eating from the fruit of this tree, Adam not only lived ( for about another 9 hundred years), but God feared that he would obtain eternal life if he ate from the tree of life and so it became necessary to expel him from the Garden.

    The Egyptians believed that if you lived a life of moral order, the god Osiris, who ruled over the afterlife, would award you eternal life. That was the philosophical link between these two fundamental principles of life and moral order, and that is why Egyptians depicted them as the children of the creator. In effect, knowledge of moral behavior was a step towards immortality and godhood. That is precisely the issue framed in Genesis.

    When Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, god declared that if Adam also ate from the tree of life he would become like God himself. But the Hebrews were monotheists. The idea that humans could become god like flew in the face of the basic theological concept of biblical religion, that there was and could be only one god. Humans can’t become god-like??? But we could be in his image of light (Atum)?

    The Hebrew story is actually a sophisticated attack on the Egyptian doctrine of moral order leading to eternal life. It begins by transforming life and moral order from Egyptian deities into that of trees, eliminating the cannibalistic imagery suggested by Atum eating of his daughter. Then, Adam was specifically forbidden to eat the fruit of moral order/Maat. Next, Adam was told that not only wouldn’t he achieve eternal life if he ate of moral order but that he would actually die if he did eat it. Finally, Adam was expelled from the garden before he could eat from the Tree of life and live eternity.

    Note:

    In Egypt Amen the honorable spirit/wind “who came into being in the beginning; the great god who liveth by (upon) Maat/truth; the first divine matter which gave birth unto subsequent divine matter”. the gods of Egypt by E.A Wallis Budge Vol 2 p.13. This sounds very much like “These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation” Revelations 3:14. Paul linked the spirit to freedom. So did the ancient Egyptians. Jesus linked freedom to righteous/truth which were adverbs of Amen/Maat. James linked freedom to the Law/ten commandments which were originally linked with the 42 admonitions/negative confessions of Maat/Amen. Its strange how things come back full circle.

    The first Jews were adherents to the Egyptian religion of Aten/Aton pharaoh Akhenaten under and they tried unsuccessfully to stir themselves away from Osiris and Amen
     
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    Wow this is very interesting, Ive never heard this before. Where can I read more?
     
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    "101 myths of the bible" By Gary Greenberg
    and of course my column here on destee
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,

    .......Isn't true that all men and women die? Or is it that some escape death? And if so, do you know of any person escaping death?

    Peace In,
     
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    That hurt my poor pathetic brain. Gonna take three decades to process that.
     
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    No just read up on some black history books it will be a snap
     
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    peace

    People escape 'death' all the time. The problem is that most hue-mans don't have a clue as to what 'death' is because they're so wrapped up in looking for the white mans meaning of life!

    "there is nothing worse than to walk the earth and be deprived of your own thoughts"
     
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    I only know of 2: Enoch and Elijah.
     
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    peace

    What is death?
     
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    Three Types Of Death

    The Bible lists three types of death. There is physical death when the body dies. A second type of death is spiritual death - a separation of the spirit from the body. A third type of death is eternal death - permanent separation of humanity from God.

    Begin To Die

    Others have interpreted the expression to mean that the death process began the moment they ate of the forbidden fruit. Though they did not immediately die physically, the death process began to take hold of their bodies, which as we know, eventually ended in their death. Scripture records that Adam did eventually die.

    Altogether, Adam lived 930 years, and then he died (Genesis 5:5).

    Idiomatic Expression

    Another view sees that the phrase the day you eat of it as simply a Hebrew idiom meaning as surely as you eat of it. Other biblical examples are provided to show what the phrase means in other contexts.

    For it shall be, on the day you go out and cross the Brook Kidron, know for certain you shall surely die; your blood shall be on your head (1 Kings 2:37).

    Then Pharaoh said to him, Get away from me! Take heed to yourself and see my face no more! For in the day you see my face you shall die! (Exodus 10:28).

    As Certain As

    In both of these passages, the expression in the day means simply as certain as. If we apply this to Genesis 2:17 we do not need to explain that Adam and Eve experienced death that very same day they ate the forbidden fruit, but rather their death sentence was something for certain.

    complete here: http://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/stewart.cfm?id=709
     
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