Black Spirituality Religion : The Tree of Life,Are You Teaching From It??

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  1. MizLindaLinda

    MizLindaLinda Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    If you teach from the tree of life, you are teaching out of the love of the Heavenly Father. You will no longer look at people the way the world sees them, but will in fact, see them as the Heavenly Father does.The Heavenly Father looks at people through love and compassion instead of fault finding and condemnation. Just look at the life of Jesus. Throughout His time on this earth, Jesus taught love, compassion, and healing.

    To teach from the tree of life, you must also interpret the Word of the Father from the tree of life perspective. The Word of the Heavenly Father is not set forth to condemn us, but to bring light in a dark place, and show us the way to life more abundantly. Jesus says in John 10:10, “…I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.” Just as Jesustaught life to the believer and the unbeliever, we too should imitate His ministry.

    It is critical that we understand that people will not receive when we teach words of condemnation; they will receive when we teach in a way that they feel the love of the Father. Look at Proverbs 15:4, “The tongue that brings healing is a tree of life, but a deceitful tongue crushes the spirit.” Our attitude will often determine whether or not an unbeliever will ever take us seriously.
    In Philippians 1, Paul addresses the church at Philippi for ministering/teaching out of condemnation instead of out of the tree of life: “Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel” (Philippians 1:15-17). From this scripture, we recognize that they were preaching/teaching out of contention, or a fighting spirit. That means that they were teaching something aggressively, simply because someone disagreed with their beliefs.

    Living from the tree of life means you put down your differences with people and focus on Jesus, His death, burial, and resurrection. We are not commanded to teach a fighting Gospel, but one of compassion and love; we are to teach to people out of love, not to prove our doctrines are right. The Word of the Father gives life and creates. If it is taught out of contention or a wrong heart, it will not create the life and power that it is capable of.

    Let’s look at a situation in the Bible in which the Pharisees and Sadducees confronted an adulterous woman, and they did so with contention. John 8:3-11 says, “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, ‘Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?’ They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, ‘If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.’ Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, ‘Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?’ ‘No one, sir,’ she said. ‘Then neither do I condemn you,’ Jesus declared. ‘Go now and leave your life of sin’ ” (NIV).

    The Pharisees and Sadducees brought division to the Gospel instead of compassion. They found out the woman was committing adultery, and they brought her to Jesus, asking Him what He was going to do about it. They filled the situation with condemnation, but Jesus would not condemn her. By surrounding the situation with a life-giving attitude, Jesus opened the door for His love to bring life to her.

    In every circumstance, we have the opportunity to bring the life of the Gospel into that situation. Let Jesus be your example. Even when He rebuked people, He did it out of a heart of love. Notice Mark 8:31-33, “He (Jesus) then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again. He spoke plainly about this, and Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. ‘Get behind me, Satan!’ he said. ‘You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.’ ” Jesus confronted Peter swiftly, but properly - without condemnation. He faced Peter, rebuked him, but then gave Peter the answer. Jesus told Peter that he needed to see things from a spiritual side - from an eternal perspective.

    Jesus has shown us the way to life, and life more abundantly. Live from the tree of life; teach to others from the tree of life, and you’ll see lives touched and changed by the goodness, faithfulness, and love of the Heavenly Father.
    Peace
     
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    MYTH: God planted a Tree of life and a Tree of knowledge of good and evil.

    The Myth can be found in Genesis 2:8-17

    The Reality: These two special trees symbolically represent the Egyptian deities Shu and Tefnut..The hebrews replaced the Egyptian deities associated with moral order and life with two trees. Shu is light,heat and air Tefnut is moisture and fire the ingredients for clouds and lightning. Tefnut wears a disk and uraeus (snake) on his/her head. A snake and disk(circle) could form # 6.

    The tree of life may be Shu which God used to make Adam/Atum into a living soul through his nose.It should be noted that the Egyptian medical sign for medicine/healing is Rx or Rex which is also used in conjunction with knowledge. These symbols will be tied in together in this essay.

    Adam, [Jewish writers confused with the Egyptian Atum] and Eve (Venus) did not die when they ate from the tree. Indeed, God feared that they would next eat from the Tree of life and gain immortality and become “one of us”i.e. Atum, Nun, Horus (see Genesis 3:22)

    One Egyptian myth as Khepri (sun god) wishing to vivify the forms of Shu and Tefnut he made into living gods with his own very hands.

    Why did god fear that Adam and eve would learn about morality and become god-like? And why did he fear that they would become immortal? As an all -powerful deity, he can reverse the cause and effect and return things to the status quo ante.

    Egyptian Coffin text 80 contains an extensive philosophical presentation of the Egyptian Heliopolitan Creation myth and it contains some interesting and overlooked passages about life and morality. The most significant portions for our purpose concern the children of Atum. The heliopolitan creator.

    Atum’s two children are Shu and tefnut, and in this text Shu is identified as the principle of life and tefnut is identified as the principle of moral order, a concept that the Egyptians referred to as MAAT. These are the two principles associated with the two special trees in the garden of Eden/Nile,the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

    Not only does the Egyptian text identify these same two principles as offspring of the creatorv deity,the text goes on to say that Atum/Adam is instructed to eat of his daughter, who signifies the principle of moral order (Maat)

    “It is of your daughter order that you shall eat”-Coffin text 80,line 63

    This presents us with a strange correlation. Both Egyptian myth and Genesis tell us that the chief deity created two fundamental principles, life and moral order (Religion original name is obedience). In the Egyptian myth, Atum is told to eat of moral order but in Genesis,Adam is forbidden to eat of moral order

    It’s also worth noting that the serpent in the tree motif associated with the Adam and eve story comes directly from Egyptian art. The Egyptian believed that Re,the sun god that circled the earth every day, had a nightly fight with the serpent Aphophisband each night defeated him.Several Egyptian paintings sho a scene in which Re, appearing in the form of Mau,the great Cat of heliopolis, sits before a tree while the serpent coils about a tree,paralleling the image of rivalry between Adam and the serpent in the tree in the Garden of Eden/Nile. By the time israel resided in Egypt,the images of Re and Atum werte closely associated ,and Egyptians actually recognized a composite deity called Atum-Re. Replacing Re with Atum in yjr serpent in ther tree motif brings the image even closer to that of the biblical account which confused/fused Atum with Adam.
    The purpose of this Jewish story was about Moses/pharaoh Akhenaten being expelled from Egypt and doing away with all the attributes and fucntions of god confused as gods (polythesism) into one monotheists representation of the sun rays as (Aton/Aten/Adon). The purpose of this tree of life story is to condemn the Egyptian idea that knowledge of moral order(Maat) would lead to eternal life. In the Egyptian text Nun urged Atum to eat of his daughter tefnut, giving him access to moral order.

    If Genesis draws upon the Egyptian doctrine, why does the biblical story take such a radical turn when it comes to eating from the tree of knowledge? The divergence in the two stories results from fundamental differences between Egyptian and Hebrew beliefs about the afterlife.

    The Egyptians believed that if you lived a life of moral order,the god Osiris, who ruled over the afterlife,would award you eternal life. That was the philosophical link between these two fundamental principles of life and moral order, and that is why Egyptians depicted them as the children of the creator. In effect, knowledge of moral behavior was a step towartds immortality and godhood. That is precisely the issue framed in genesis.

    When Adam ate from the Tree of knowledge of good and evil, God declared that if Adam also ate from the tree of life he would become like god himself. But Hebrews were monotheists.The idea that humans could become god-like flew in the face of the basic theological concept of biblical religion.

    The Hebrew story is actually a sophisticated attack on the Egyptian doctrine of moral order leading to eternal life.it begins by transforming life and moral order from deities into trees, eliminating the cannibalistic imagery suggested by Atum/Adam eating his daughter.Then,Adam was specifically forbidden to eat the fruit of moral order. Next, adam was told that not only wouldn’t achieve eternal life if he ate of moral order but that he would actually die if he did eat it. Finally, Adam was expelled from the garden before he could eat from the tree of life and live eternity.

    Note here that the biblical emphasis is on knowledge of moral order not eternal life.

    It’s said that Jesus was an initiate and priest of the Egyptian religion. Everything Adam and Eve couldn’t do in the Garden of Eden (Egypt on the banks of the Nile) they can do in heaven. Jesus said we shall know the truth and its sets you free (John 8:32 this is linked with John14:6 also). This is an old saying in Egypt. “God is Maat (i.e Truth,law, order). He liveth through truth,he feedeth himself thereon. He is king of truth,whose truth maketh free the tongue”-from fetish to god in ancient Egypt By E.A.Wallis Budge. The Leaf from a tree was symbolic of the tongue in Egypt. If you were true of voice by Maat you got eternal life in Egypt. In Revelation more Books/Knowledge are opened up and the leaves from the trees are healing/life for mankind.

    Jesus/Horus said I’am the way,the truth,and the life” John14:6 Horus said the same thing thousands of years before this gospel was published. The quote proves Maat/Truth is life, eternal life. The Egyptian Amen said that before any substance was created truth was in existence. Heaven and earth and the Koran was created by truth (Koran 14:19)



    I have another essay pointing to Thoth as the Old and New Testament Devil. It should be noted Hathor was merged with Maat and Hathor is the female counterpart of Thoth. Thoth plays a vital role on judgement day. Thoth weighs our hearts and tongues of conscience and deeds up aganist a feather of truth called maat. “By your words you wilk be acquitted,and by your words you will be condemmed”Matthew 12:37 We are Judged according to Truth/Maat see Romans 2:2 And our words must be truth just like Jesus word is truth along with Sanctification/healing John 3:20-21 &17:17 And in the end we get to become “as one of us” in Genesis 3:22we were prevented from doing. Through truth/Maat “They also may be one in us that the world may believe that thou hast sent me”-John17:17-21. Everything in Genesis was a lie and Jesus/Horus rebuke this childish unwarranted attack upon the Egyptian religion;the mother of Christianity.

    Notes: In Egyptian theology everyone was a part of Shu/Tefnut. Jesus name is also Joshua. The root word of Joshua is Shu.

    Atum’s hand personfied the female principle inherent within him, and from this union, the divine pair, Shu and Tefnut arouse. The Hand was also symbolic of legal transfer to Egyptian throne/kingdom see Egyptian cosmology By b Moustafa Gadalla p101

    .When souls go to heaven/Kingdom either Horus or Hathor takes the soul/spirits by the crescent horns resembling hands after their voice/words become true on a scale of truth. At the doubles halls of maat the left foot of souls were called the staff of hathor. Hathor became a form of tefnut. Jesus acts in ways like the God Shu who saves with his hands bringing on the Holy Ghost/spirit Acts 9:17. Let it be known Ghost/spirit is air. When Jesus so called died he gave up his Ghost/breathing/Air-Luke 23:46

    THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NIGH @ HAND” Luke 21:31

    Q. When Jesus said that his New Kingdom was near at hand was he in reference to the Egyptian Heb-Sed festival?
    A. Yes, Most likely
    1. Jesus use of the word Hand didn’t mean near because nigh/near was already stated.
    2. Egyptian Pharaohs/Kings would traditionaly hold Heb-Sed festivals to reconfirm/renew their claim to the throne/Kingdom. The Kings rejuvenated their powers at these mysterious festivals that included “serpent/sceptre rod” and “Hand ritual”.
    3. The Heb-Sed festivals were held at 30 year intervals which is precisely when Jesus began his ministry (Luke 3:23). In Egypt and Rome adultship was obtained at 30 years.The Egyptians incorporated Astrological/Magical knowledge into their Kingship. All Egyptians Kings were called “sun/son of God”. In the Zodiac, invented in Egypt, we have the “Sun of God” entering into each sign of the Zodiac at 30 degrees; hence, the Sun of God begins his ministry at age 30.


    Did Jesus come with a new doctrine of love that did away with the old law of Moses? According to the Bible, No. Jesus says in Matthew 5: 17-18

    "Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fufill. For Assyredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass away from the law till all is fufilled.

    As a matter of Fact the Ten commandments come from the Admonitions of Maat called the 42 negative confessions created by Amen as the first divine matter.

    There you have it no change in Law (Maat).
     
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    This was of God....and I receive it in Jesus name....Thanks
     
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    True indeed, the concept of the Tree of Life (PA'UT NETERU) is an ancient one, that predates and supercedes Christianity by several millenia.

    Just another one of those ancient esoteric principles that have been assimilated and revised.

    HOTEPU
     
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    Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Let the Word be heard.

    Truth! No man should condemn another nor deny love to their brothers and sisters. When we love as the Father loves, when we do as the Holy Son did, we show true love to He who created us and He Who was sent for our salvation and life forever.
     
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