Black Spirituality Religion : The Tithe

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  1. THA HOOKUPMAN

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    The Tithe

    The Church View:
    Ten percent of your income should be given to the church to be spent as the church decides. Some churches exact a second tithe, which is used to support a festival or conference each year for a total of 20 percent. Some also exact a third tithe for the poor, which is spent as the church decides for a total of 30 percent.

    The Bible View:
    Ten percent of your food yield should be saved and used for a feast and converted into money for a spending spree each year. Every third year you must take ten percent of your food yield and feed the priests and the poor. If the church was a tabernacle, which it isn't, and ministers were priests, who they aren't, and were performing the duties clearly laid out in scripture, which they don't, all they could legally receive according to scripture is ten percent of your income every three years and that must also be used to feed the needy.

    The tithe is one tenth of the agricultural yield that is taken to a designated site to be consumed and used for a general spending spree each year. Every third year the tithe is used to provide food for the priests and all those in need. There is no indication whether the gift tithe is an extra ten percent or just designated for a different purpose every three years. The tithing law is found in the Book of Deuteronomy:

    The tithe is one tenth of the agricultural yield.
    · Deuteronomy 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

    The tithe is to be brought to a designated place and consumed or converted into money and spent as one desires.
    · Deuteronomy 14:23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always. 24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee: 25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose: 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,

    Every third year a tenth of the agricultural increase is to be given to the priests and the poor.
    · Deuteronomy 14:27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.
    28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: 29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.
    · Deuteronomy 26:12 When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;
    The tithe is to be used to feed the priests, travelers, and the poor at the tithers home.


    There is no place in the Bible stating that ten percent of your income should
    be given for any kind of religious purpose every year other than a feast
    and any doctrines or practices that demand such funds are committing
    extortion if they attempt to justify this with scripture. :uhh:

    Here are the other verses in the Bible dealing with the tithe:

    Tithe is of agricultural origin.
    · Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD's: it is holy unto the LORD. 31 And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof. 32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.

    Tithe rules for priests.
    · Numbers 18:24 But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance. 25 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 26 Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe.

    Rules for eating the tithe.
    · Deuteronomy12:17 Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand: 18 But thou must eat them before the LORD thy God in the place which the LORD thy God shall choose, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates: and thou shalt rejoice before the LORD thy God in all that thou puttest thine hands unto.

    Tithes to priests.
    · 2Chronicles 31:4 Moreover he commanded the people that dwelt in Jerusalem to give the portion of the priests and the Levites, that they might be encouraged in the law of the LORD. 5 And as soon as the commandment came abroad, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of corn, wine, and oil, and honey, and of all the increase of the field; and the tithe of all things brought they in abundantly. 6 And concerning the children of Israel and Judah, that dwelt in the cities of Judah, they also brought in the tithe of oxen and sheep, and the tithe of holy things which were consecrated unto the LORD their God, and laid them by heaps.

    Tithes to priests.
    · Nehemiah 10:37 And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage. 38 And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house.

    Tithes to priests.
    · Nehemiah 12:44 And at that time were some appointed over the chambers for the treasures, for the offerings, for the firstfruits, and for the tithes, to gather into them out of the fields of the cities the portions of the law for the priests and Levites: for Judah rejoiced for the priests and for the Levites that waited.

    Tithes to priests.
    · Nehemiah 13:5 And he had prepared for him a great chamber, where aforetime they laid the meat offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the corn, the new wine, and the oil, which was commanded to be given to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the offerings of the priests.

    Tithes to priests.
    · Nehemiah 13:12 Then brought all Judah the tithe of the corn and the new wine and the oil unto the treasuries.

    Tithes to priests every three years.
    · Amos 4:4 Come to Bethel, and transgress; at Gilgal multiply transgression; and bring your sacrifices every morning, and your tithes after three years:

    Failure to tithe to the priests is a crime.
    · Malachi 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. 10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. 11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.

    Tithing is not to boast about.
    · Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
    · Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
    · Luke 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

    Tithes to priests.
    · Hebrews 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: 6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises. 7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better. 8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth. 9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.


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    Thank you brother you've done an excellent job in showing us what tithe is suppose to be used for but why does God want us to tithe in the first place? Also can you name this Churches since there concerns of "flock fleecing"?

    Thanks and Peace

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    The increasing emphasis on money in most churches is casting many people to study the Word of God for the truth on this important subject. Each year brings new schemes to raise money to support the increasingly top-heavy ecclesiastical organizations with which so many of God’s own are affiliated. A professor in a large institution of higher learning recently was heard advising several hundred young preachers to get new members to sign tithing cards as soon as they joined the church, “before someone tells them they are not under the law, but under grace.” A large first church in an east Texas City has rated its members according to the amount they contribute to the church each year, while another first church of the same denomination in another Texas City has developed a slogan: “Would you want your neighbor to know how much you give? These clearly are efforts to play on the desire for social approval and the wish to out-do one’s neighbor, and to use these urges to increase the funds coming into the church organization. The question we are considering is not “to give or not to give,” but a study of giving as a member of the body of Christ, under grace, in contrast with giving as an Israelite under the law.

    In the first place, the word “tithe” is found in only one portion of Scripture this side of Calvary, and that is Hebrews 7:1-10, which refers back to Genesis 14:17-24. Many glory in these passages, insisting that since Abraham paid tithes, tithing anti-dates the Mosaic Law, and is therefore binding today. By this same argument, one would have to accept circumcision, (Genesis 17:9-14; animal sacrifices, (Genesis 4:4;8:20; the seventh day Sabbath (Genesis 2:2); etc. Some hold that Hebrews 7:8, which says, “men that die receive tithes” would indicate, by the verb tense, that they are still being received. In the same book, chapter 10 and verse 11, however, we read that priests were still offering daily sacrifices, but that does not indicate that God requires either the tithe or the sacrifice at that time.

    Tithing definitely was incorporated into the law program, as is brought out in Leviticus 27:30-34. Note how carefully God links this with Israel. After giving the law of the tithe, He says: “These are the commandments, which the Lord commanded Moses for the children of Israel in Mount Sinai.” (Leviticus 27:34.) By reading Leviticus 25:8-24, one can see how the “year of jubilee,” which saw the land redistributed at regular intervals, would make the tithe a fair system under that economy. From Deuteronomy 12:5-18; 14:22-29; and 26:12-14, it seems that a second tithe was taken each year, with possible a third tithe each third year. Hence, instead of 10%, as much as 30% may have been taken in some years. Modern tithers make no effort to carry this over.

    Nehemiah 10 gives an account of the revival and restoration after captivity, which included a revival of tithing. Again, it is clearly linked with Israel (Nehemiah 10:39) and with God’s law given by Moses (Nehemiah 10:29).

    In Malachi 3:7-15, we have the verses that are overworked by preachers today who accuse believers of robbing God if they do not tithe. “The “storehouse” of verse 10, they tell us in the local church treasury, and church members are told that they have actually given nothing until they have paid the tithe to the storehouse. Anything above the tithe, they say, is an offering. Actually, God nowhere calls the local congregation of members of the body of Christ a “storehouse.” The store-house," under law, was the Jewish temple. Note again how God tags the verse in Malachi with Israel (3:6 –“Jacob”). He calls tithing his ordinance (3:14).

    Any believer with only a superficial knowledge of the Word knows “we are not under the law, but under grace.” (Romans 6:14-15.) Colossians 2:14 assures us that the ordinances (cf. Malachi 3:14) have been blotted out, nailed to His cross. How does this affect our giving?

    First, our motive for giving is infinitely greater. Instead of bringing a tithe into an earthly storehouse because a legal ordinance requires it, we give because we have received God’s unspeakable gift (2 Corinthians 8:5), eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord (Romans 6:23).

    Who should give? Every believer in the Lord Jesus Christ has the privilege of giving (1 Corinthians 16:2; 2 Corinthians 6:7).

    How much should be given? It is here that confusion arises, when truth which God gave to Israel under the dispensation of the law is brought over and forced upon members of the body of Christ, living under grace. Two principles are laid down to guide the members of the body of Christ as to how much he should give. He is to give “as God hath prospered him.” (1 Corinthians 16:2). This suggests giving in proportion to our income, and giving systematically. As the consecrated believer’s income increases, his love gifts to support the work of the Lord will increase. The second principle regarding the amount to be given is laid down in 2 Corinthians 9:7. Here we learn that the believer is to give “as he hath purposed in his heart.” The yielded believer prays much about his giving as to the amount, the phase of the Lord’s work to which the gift will go, etc. The amount the believer under grace gives, then, is based on the amount of his income and the amount he purposes in his heart to give. The question of purposing in his heart leads to the method of giving. Much can be gleamed from 2 Corinthians chapters 8 and 9.

    The giver is to have a willing mind (2 Corinthians 8:12), that is, a desire to give without coercion. When one gives on that bases, it is accepted according to what a man hath, and not according to that he hath not. Does this not eliminate pledging, which is actually giving out of that which one does not have?

    Besides giving with a willing mind, we are to give cheerfully (2 Corinthians 9:7). The Greek word for “cheerful” is “hilarious,” from which we get our word “hilarious.” God loves a cheerful giver -- one who gives joyously -- a happy giver.

    This same verse (2 Corinthians 9:7) teaches us that we are to give freely. Our gifts should be made without compulsion, “not of necessity.” Contrast because a strict law demands that we give, with giving cheerfully, not because we are bound to, but because it is our desire!

    The believer under grace is to give bountifully and aboundingly (2 Corinthians 9:6). Many have been enabled to give more than the legal tithe, and have done so. One well-known Christian business man has consistently given 90% of his profits to the Lord’s work, and used the other 10% for personal needs and God has prospered him. On the other hand, God has many choice saints with a meager income, barely able to meet life’s needs, whose financial contributions are not much in numbers, but are acceptable in God’s sight on the basis of the above standards. Many who have been unable to give financially to the support of the gospel have spent much time in prayer and witnessing, and they are accepted according to what they have, and not what they have not. Under the law, one day out of seven and one-tenth of the income were set apart for God. Under grace, all we are and all we have belongs to Him. “Ye are not your own; ye are bought with a price.” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). Giving can and should be a means of worship. But giving is a matter that should be strictly between the believer and His Lord; no man or men have Scriptural authority to dictate the lowliest believer how much he should give nor how he should give it. When believers are taught the Word of God, which includes not only the gospel of grace, but truth concern-ing our position in Christ and our walk as believers, they will get a joy out of giving, and the high-pressured schemes will be unnecessary.

    By way of warning, we urge everyone to be very careful and prayerful about giving. Are you sure how the money you give is being used? Many of the churches which are strongest in demanding a tithe are affiliated with the atheistic National Council of Churches (formerly Federal Council) and a part of your gift may be going to help this organization in its campaign to deny the Word of God. Speaking of this organization, John T. Flynn, in his book The Road Ahead says “…this powerful Council issues periodicals, pamphlets, books and booklets and sends out preachers to preach the gospel, and that it is by all odds the most powerful apparatus in existence for propaganda among the Christian laity of America. And I know moreover, and assert, that many of the men most powerful in directing its affairs are using its machinery to promote the interest of a Socialist revolution in America. The humble communicants of countless thousands of little churches all over this broad land dedicated to the worship of God and the spiritual needs of their people are paying the bills for this propaganda drive. I do not believe that they realize what is being done by leaders.” (pp. 107-108). Are you one of those who is supporting this anti-Christian organization which wears a Christian name? It might pay to check up. The above quotation comes, not from the pen of some overwrought fundamentalist, but from a recognized sociologist of our day.

    To summarize, every believer in Christ has the privilege of giving to the Lord’s work because we have received His unspeakable gift and have given ourselves to Him. We are to give as God hath prospered us; that is, we are to give systematically. There is nothing wrong in giving a tenth, so long as it is understood that we are not legally bound to any tithing ordinance of Israel. These gifts are to be given as we have purposed in our hearts, with a willing mind, cheerfully, freely, bountifully and aboundingly. We are saved by grace; let us live under grace, let us learn the superiority of giving under grace to tithing as though we were under law.
    Peace,
    GP
     
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    This was very well stated! :toast:
     
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