Black Spirituality Religion : The Pagan Origin of Christmas

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  1. Sami_RaMaati

    Sami_RaMaati Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    "Few people realize that the origins of a form of Christmas was pagan & celebrated in Europe long before anyone there had heard of Jesus Christ.

    "No one knows what day Jesus Christ was born on... So why do we celebrate Christ’s birthday as Christmas, on December the 25th? The answer lies in the pagan origins of Christmas."


    The remainder of this article can be found here:

    http://de.essortment.com/christmaspagan_rece.htm

    For a more complete exposition of this and other european holidays, see the book entitled "Afrikan People and European Holidays: A Mental Genocide," vols. 1 & 2 by Ishakamusa Barashango.
     
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    Greetings this Christmas

    Good Forum

    Satan is the cause and Churches are the effect.


    Sincerely,


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    december 25 is the birthday of one of our ancestors, the god heru.

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    i laugh when i think of how we can celebrate and reflect on the god heru on his day; and christians are stuck making up excuses of why they identify their guy with this particular day.

    who really has the power, when christians moved the celebration of their god to one of our days? heru's birthday is a national holiday! when exactly was christ born?

    let's not demonize "christmas"; let's embrace the original roots and celebrate.
     
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    ...In order for one to "embrace the original roots," they must know the original roots first.

    KD
     
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    Can you give information/proof on how this is Heru's birthday?
     
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    (cursed heart) - Can you give information/proof on how this is Heru's birthday?

    the birthday of heru was symbolically celebrated on december 25, at the end of the winter solstice when the sun was reborn.

    http://www.wheeloftheyear.com/2006/santeriaafrican.htm

    this is when heru's birthday was celebrated in kemet, during roman occupation. whether this was influenced by the roman presence is unknown to me.

    the birthday's of ausar, heru the elder, set, auset & nebthet were the last 5 days of the kemetic year.
    this is july 14-18 according to some, according to the earth center's sidereal calendar this date is actually september 6-10.
    the first day of the year was considered the birthday of ra, resulting in 6 birthdays in a row.
     
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    (KWABENA) - ...In order for one to "embrace the original roots," they must know the original roots first.

    without question. the first step to gaining that knowledge and understanding the original roots; is to reject this notion of "pagan" origins.

    too many people expose the "pagan" origins within christianity and judiasm as a whole; but the entire concept of "pagan" is a calculated assault on traditional religious practices.

    so referring to "pagan" as something bad, something to be derided; is still falling for the same trap. it still denies the original meaning & symbolism.

    instead we need to embrace the "pagan" origins for what they are; which is the truth beneath the lies.
     
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    What’s the Real Reason for the Season?

    SMASH THE LIES!:court:


    http://www.theholyconceptionunit.org/main/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3


    This upcoming so-called holiday season many in the world will continue to be led astray into believing that Christmas is about Jesus Christ and His birth. The tree will be put up and decorated, the turkey and the ham prepared, and family members will gather together for yet another round of faking it with each other until dinner is through, all for the sake of the “Christmas spirit”. Do these things have anything to do with the Holy Bible and Jesus Christ? Or do they have everything to do with Satan? Let’s examine the facts of the Bible.

    The Birthday of Christ Revealed.

    When we read about the early part of the life of our Lord and Savior in Luke 2 and verse 41, it states that “his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of Passover”. So this was a yearly custom that Mary and Joseph kept. Passover always falls at springtime, around March-April. Verse 42 goes on to say “And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast”. That little word “when” is a specific dispensation of time, meaning at that time Jesus Christ turned twelve. The day that Christ was born is not December 25th, but on the Passover. This is also the time when the New Year actually starts, not January 1st.

    The Lord told the Israelites that the month Abib (spring forth) would be the
    beginning of months for them. (Read Exodus 12:1-2, Exodus 13:3-4) Another point has to be made clear. When you read Luke chapter 2 verses 1-11 it states that shepherds were watching their flocks by night. Winter season occurs in the land of Israel also and it gets very cold (Read 1st Chron 11:22). It makes no sense that they would be outdoors in the dead of winter watching sheep. Someone has been lying!

    Let’s Chop Down that Tree!

    The Christmas tree is spoken about in the Bible, but don’t get jolly just yet. In
    Jeremiah chapter 10 verses 1-5, the Lord told the children of Israel not to follow the customs of the heathen because they are vain. It also speaks about the evergreen tree that stands upright and how it was decked with silver and with gold. The Lord said not to be afraid of them because they can do neither evil nor good. The history behind all this dates back to the time of Nimrod and the ancient Babylonian Empire.

    His mother after his death enforced that all worship the tree because the spirit of Nimrod was in the tree. The custom was to idolize and worship the tree on his birthday, December 25th. Nimrod was not a nice guy, but a worshipper of Satan. So the putting up of a tree at Christmas is a heathenistic and evil custom and goes directly against the command of God! Now you have been warned.

    The Feast of Fools.

    Jesus Christ did not teach, practice, or celebrate any of these false holidays in the world. If you say you love him and celebrate these things, you are a liar and you are really worshipping the Devil. As a matter of fact, God hates your false holidays. Amos 5:21-23 states “I hate, I despise your feast days and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies”, thus saith the Lord. Whether it is Thanksgiving or Christmas, no matter how hard you pray over the ham, it will not justify you breaking the laws of God. Remember Matthew 5 verse 17. So now will you continue to lie to your children about this holiday season? How can you when the facts are clear. Will you continue to lie about Satan Claws coming down the chimney especially when some of you don’t even own a chimney? You work hard, break your neck, and don’t pay your rent to put toys on layaway for your children, just to tell them that the fat white man you saw in a red suit at the mall gave them those gifts. Now that’s really childish. The true holidays of God are found in the Holy Bible in Leviticus
    the 23rd chapter, Esther the 9th chapter, and 1st Maccabees (Apocrypha) the 4th chapter. The Feast of Dedication or Hannukah falls in December. This is the time Israelites should celebrate honoring Christ and giving gifts one to another. Christ kept this holiday; Read St John 10 verse 22. Will you?

    A True Spiritual View
    Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ Inc.
    Writer: Izarya Nathan
    December 2006 Edition
    Questions or Comments? Please write to:
    Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ Inc.
    18800 NW 2nd Ave, suite 201
    Miami, FL 33169 305-249-2150 Call for Bible class schedule.
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  10. torch

    torch Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Christmas is based on a roman holiday called saturnalia (the saturn god)...on dec 25 the roman pagan elite would give each other presents then sleep with each other...later on they would beat on there wives and moleste there kids....
     
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