Black Spirituality Religion : The Origins of Kemetic Theology

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  1. cherryblossom

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    Where did this belief system come from?

    Can anyone tell me where the belief in Ra and Horus and Atum and the other Egyptian deities came from?

    Is there a timeline I can find that would put these deities in order?

    Was the theology of Kemet "introduced" there by others or was this an indigenous spirituality?

    Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    Where did this belief system come from?

    Antiquitous nile valley people's observance of nature.

    Can anyone tell me where the belief in Ra and Horus and Atum and the other Egyptian deities came from?

    Antiquitous nile valley civilizations.

    Is there a timeline I can find that would put these deities in order?

    Too many scholars to name. Kenyatta recommended the works of some scholar's who put forth information worthy of inquiry and study, over on the
    "heru vs. jesus" thread. In addition, I would throw in there manetho, count volney, breased, a.b. kuhn, budge, r. pankhurst, etc.
    There are many timelines, so I recommend that you investigate several sources.

    Asa hilliard has a lecture on dvd that can be found over the web called, "the master keys",
    or something like that he puts together a timeline, however, it is mostly
    comprised of his study of works on kemet and his own share of field research.

    Dr. ben's "africa: mother of western civilization" has a timelime regarding the
    nile valley.


    Was the theology of Kemet "introduced" there by others or was this an indigenous spirituality?

    I have found no evidence that the theology of kemet, most noted the asar/auset/heru
    theology being introduced by anyone/people from outside the nile valley region, much less outside of afrika
    (not including the portion known as western asia which at one point in history was essentially part of afrika)
     
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    Thank you very much for those sources!


    Yes, man has always strove to "explain" his world around him.

    And with the Nile and the Sun being the center of life in ancient Egypt, I can see how they began to deify their world around them.
     
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    I would say that majority of it was present in the Proto-Sahara area, which was what we call the Sahara before it turned to a desert 5,000 years ago.
     
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    Excerpts of THE PROTO-SAHARAN RELIGIONS taken from
    http://ipoaa.com/proto_saharan_religions.htm

    "The historic gods of Africa and Asia were of Proto-Saharan origin. Concepts concerning these ancient gods or great ancestors were first developed around a gigantic lake that formerly existed in Middle Africa around 8000 years ago. This is supported by the fact that the Saharan cultures have resemblances to those of Nubia. This lake was known in ancient times as Lake Tritonis."

    '"This is supported by Dravidian and Egyptian traditions. In ancient Egyptian tradition Ptah, came from the Sahara below Egypt in Kush. He found Egypt inundated, so he performed great works of dyking and land reclamation so the land was more habitable."

    "Apollonius Rhodius tells us that the goddess Athene was born beside Lake Tritonis in Libya. The goddess Athene, was called Neith by the Egyptians and Nia, by the Manding and Eteo-Cretans of Minoan civilization."

    "The early gods of these Proto-Saharans included a serpent, the sun: Hercules, Amon/Aman/Amma, and Kush or Khons
    . In Egypt and Kush, both Amon and Khons were depicted as coal-black in accordance with tradition. The Ku****es also worshipped a "lord of the mountains", which is analogous to Murugan, a Dravidian god in India. In India, Khrisna, Mal ,Vishnu, and Kali were usually depicted as black in color. Kali, was held to be a form of Paravati, consort of Siva. In addition the Dravidian god of the pastoral region: Mullai, was the black god Mayan, who was beloved by the milkmaids and cattle herders."

    "Many of the Proto-Saharan beliefs originated during the wet African Aqualithic period. As a result their gods, who had once been great ancestors were referred to as "Fish" or "reed-boat navigators". This common god was called Maa , the man fish (of Eridu) in Mesopotamia and Syria and the ithyphallic forms, the prototype of Amon/Aman in Egypt ; and the goddess Minaksi, of Madura in South India the goddess of the fish eyes, the Malabar fish bearer of Mana and the sacred fishes of the Mapilla of the west coast of the Dekkan. In the languages of the Manding Maa, is used to refer to the ancient inhabitants of the African continent, and the invisible spirit who inhabits the water courses. In Egypt Maat, meant divine truth and justice."
     
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