Black Spirituality Religion : The Origin of the Christian Concept of the Trinity...

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  1. Aqil

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    The Christian concept of the spiritual trinity originated in Africa. In ancient Egyptian eschatology (i.e., Ma'at) the original trinity was, Birth, Life, and Death, the unversal three-in-one. Here is the interpretation:

    Birth is represented by the father, because there can be no birth without the father...

    Life is represented by the Sun, because there can be no life without the Sun...

    Death frees the spirit entombed in the flesh, thereby enabling it to return to the Source from which it emanated...

    These and many other profound teachings were perverted through misinterpretation and mistransliteration, done mainly by the Jews, who developed their own version of the trinity as we know it today: “The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost”...
     
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    sir,

    please understand that the concept of the Trinity was not formed by the Jews. Also the intial prmise for such concept came from interpretation of the Bible. The Trinity concept did not occur in Christian doctrine until 180 A.D. Below you will find some infromation on the trinity and its origin as it eprtains to the bible:

    Now for a more bias view:

    while your views are interesting, the concept that the trinity was derived from such teachings cannot be validated. If you would provide further evidence then i would be willing to listen...
     
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    Your observation is flawed. Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people. The knowledge and teachings of the ancient Egyptians of Africa were perverted through misinterpretation and mistransliteration, done mainly by the Jews, who developed their own version of the original concept of the trinity...i.e., “The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost."

    This concept was then inculcated into Christian doctrine...
     
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    I can't say the same for the Eurocentric and/or Jewish concepts that you have proffered. It sounds as if the Greek and Roman priests, scribes and Jewish rabbis were attempting cover up a mistake! The truth is validation itself...

    I acquired much of my knowledge of ancient Egyptian eschatology from reading The Egyptian Book of the Dead, which was the Bible of the ancient Egyptians of Africa. I have elucidated on this in much detail in my thread entitled, "The One-God Concept of the Ancient Egyptians." Please read for further edification...
     
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    thanks for the book title. i will read it....

    while i did read the other thread i found it to be very interesting. as we have had discussion before i would hope that you know i always seek more information. whenceforth when i was speaking of validation i was asking for more proof. unfortunately it did not occur to me to relate the two post. i shall read the book as well...

    always good to engage in healthy discussions...

    also could you explain as to how the teachers of old attempted to cover up a mistake? Now one thing i am aware of is that religions are a culmination of many cultures but i am curious here. Plese don't tkae this question as incendiary but what exactly are you implying here? As stated before and by many neutral researchers and scholars, the Trinity concept was not originally a part of the Christian faith. It did, in fact, occur many years later. Although the scripture talks of three persons and the concept of the Trinity can be supported by scripture, the concept itself was not discussed until centuries later. Therefore my question to you is how can you assert that they teachers of such then inculcated into Christian doctrine...

    just curious...

    i shall look over that book you suggested and thank you...
     
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    Being Muslim and a student of both Islam and Christianity, I must first discuss the religious source of my comments, which is the Holy Qur'an, the Muslim holy book. The 74th ayat of the sura Al-Maidah reads as follows:

    "They surely disbelieve who say, 'Allah is the third of the three,' there is no god but the One God. And if they do not desist from what they say, a grievous punishment shall surely befall those of them that disbelieve." (Sura 5:74)

    The reference in this verse is to the doctrine of the Trinity, that mysterious and abstruse dogma of the three persons of the Godhead - the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost - co-existing and co-equal in all respects, combining to make one God and yet remaining three...

    It was the Nicene Council - and especially the Athenasian Creed - that first gave the dogma its definite shape. The doctrine forms the basic article of the Christian religion.
     
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    hmmm, very true and i've heard this debate before over the same passage from the Qu'ran...very interesting...

    thanks for the insight. i shall comment further at a later date...

    just getting into work...
     
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    Greetings!...

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