Black Sports : The NFL and NBA kerfuffles

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  1. UBNaturally

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    This thread is to focus primarily on the NFL and the NBA, and how they have both been under the microscope of a number of sketchy on-goings.

    This is the sports section, so let's see how close we can keep it to the arena of sports and sports media as it relates to these entities.

    How much power do they have, and what does it say to a minority population when we can protest something but cannot boycott anything?

    The St. Louis (Ferguson) Rams come to mind, as I am sure some went to spend money on this corporation this past weekend just to see them lose.

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    The L.A. Clippers had their silent protest of their (slave) owner, but still played on.

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    Some got the message, some followed the script.


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    Goodell was a thorn in the side of James Harrison, who just recently retired... fined $120,000 in one season alone for hitting too hard and other infractions.

    If the NBA owners don't desire a certain fan base, and the players are yet to figure out that they will eventually be looking like Dave Chappelle telling racial jokes to a majority white audience, then when more Donald Sterlings come out publicly about their concepts of the racial marketing and demographics of their team and fans, who will these protesting NBA players protest to?

    Being that I hardly viewed any NBA games for about 2 years, and the NFL was only interesting a few years ago because of something called "Fantasy Football", it is easy for me to conceive a boycott of both without thinking twice.

    But the question is, how much do these major Sports Entertainment conglomerates pimp the fans as well as the players, and will we be affective enough to actually boycott something that would bring to the surface the bigger problems, before the bigger problems create the need for a protest and boycott?

    Of course, some may think "this is just entertainment, don't get it twisted", but it is already twisted to where many are not sure who is zooming who.

    Will use this thread to expound more on both the NFL and NBA, and might bring over some content from the other threads for the sake of keeping it together.

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    Adolpho Birch

    NFL senior vice president of labor policy Adolpho Birch strongly disagreed Monday (Jul 28, 2014) that the league's two-game suspension of Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice for his domestic violence arrest was too light.

    Birch, appearing Monday morning on ESPN Radio's "Mike and Mike," responded to criticism via traditional and social media about the penalty, which was handed down Thursday and stems from Rice's arrest after he allegedly struck then-fiancée Janay Palmer unconscious in an Atlantic City casino hotel elevator in February.



    Notice that Adolpho is asked twice about the "other video" and does not want to answer the question of if Goodell saw it, as he claims it is a level of privacy.


    Roger "Goober" Goodell



    Basically what Goodell said was this all in the same interview:

    Paraphrased...
    We never knew about this other video until Monday, but we tried to get it and were not allowed to get it.

    "We were never granted that opportunity"


    Compare this with what Adolpho Birch was saying about the video in the first clip.


    Keith "Doberman" Olbermann




    Honestly, I see this as a "wake up" just as any other form of obvious deception.
    Owners back Goodell, so in effect owners run the NFL.

    Owners can fire employees on the basis of "bad for public image", not anything relating to their work or ability to be employed.

    Now owners and anyone else is getting the heave ho based on what they have said and who it may have offended.

    Stephen Smith from ESPN Networks is an example of how public image is essential to being a TV personality, and he was dealt with according to the media backlash.

    But Stephen's job is to be in front of the camera and present himself to the public.

    Players are now dolled up and walked out like show dogs.

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    Remember when the NBA said it was improper for players to wear their work clothes to work?

    Saying it is a privilege to work for a company entitled the National Football Association or the National Basketball Association may be similar to claiming it is a privilege to eat that "whites only apple pie".

    It is no more a privilege to be in these companies as it is a privilege to be a doctor that worked hard and gets reprimanded because a patient doesn't like the color of their coat or stethoscope.

    The Public Relations has always been about creating a star image using the players as guinea pigs for profit, and when that star fades, they are tossed as if they didn't even exist.

    I am sure everyone remembers this fella
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    Jordan was so upset that the NBA had claimed his name, he fought against them and won to keep his name off of any products, games, merchandise that they attempted to put out.

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    They soon needed someone to replace him... enter Kobe Bryant.

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    Exit 23, enter 24

    Replaceable parts, easy come easy go....
     
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    Owners start to fall in line behind Roger Goodell:

    Bob Kraft: Goodell has been 'excellent' on Ray Rice; Pats won't sign him

    While the NFL and commissioner Roger Goodell have come under intense criticism since Monday morning when the latest Ray Rice tape was released -- with people asking if the league had seen the tape, and if not, why not? -- Patriots owner Bob Kraft stuck up for the league and for Goodell on Tuesday, saying his recent decision-making has been "excellent."

    "The way he has handled this situation himself, coming out with the mea culpa in his statement a couple weeks ago, or 10 days ago, and setting a very clear policy of how we conduct ourselves in the NFL, I thought was excellent," Kraft said on CBS This Morning. "Anyone who is second guessing that doesn't know him."

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...been-excellent-on-ray-rice-pats-wont-sign-him



    Adam Jones on Roger Goodell and Ray Rice
    http://www.cincinnati.com/videos/sports/nfl/bengals/2014/09/03/15019705/


    Adam blasts Goodell days before he succumbs to media hype yet again, and looks like a Donkey for doing it...

    The Breakfast club is on top of it


    If the players don't support each other, the owners and the commissioners surely will not, as obvious by whatever scheme this was.

    The book entitled "Forty Million Dollar Slaves" delves into much of what we see unfolding now, yet many are so distracted by the media hyping to recognize it.





    Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

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    Larry Johnson (inset) suggested players form an all-black league in the wake of the alleged comments by Clippers owner Donald Sterling.


    Knicks executive and former player Larry Johnson had a decidedly different but still strong reaction to the racially insensitive remarks Clippers owner Donald Sterling is alleged to have made.

    On Saturday night, Johnson tweeted: “Black people your Focusing on the wrong thing. We should be focusing on having our own, Own team own League! To For Self!!’’

    The initial indication was Johnson was calling for an all-African-American league complete with black ownership. It wasn’t the first time Johnson, who is black, concerned himself with the fact the NBA’s ownership is mostly white while its players are mostly black.


    Johnson tweeted:

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    Black people your Focusing on the wrong thing. We should be focusing on having our own, Own team own League! Do For Self!!​


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    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/28/knicks-larry-johnson-calls-all-black-nba-league/
    http://nypost.com/2014/04/27/knicks-great-larry-johnson-calls-for-all-black-league/
     
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    Byrne Identity: I Like Ray Rice
    Posted Jul 25, 2014

    Plus, Owner Steve Bisciotti weighs in on the situation, and the veil is lifted on Rice.
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    We Were Surprised

    If you had asked me on Feb. 1 to name five Ravens players I would never expect to receive a call at 3:00 in the morning about doing something illegal, Ray Rice[​IMG] would be on the list – EASILY.

    I would have said: “Ray’s a good guy. He’s smart. He might be the most popular person in our building. Need help with a community event or a player to lift a person in need, especially a child? Ray is one of the guys who says, ‘Yes, I’ll help.’”

    I liked Ray Rice a lot then. I like Ray Rice a lot today.

    Clearly Ray has been scrutinized. He has been reviewed in a court of law and in the court of public opinion. The NFL punished Ray Rice with a two-game suspension and a third game check. He will lose 3/17 of his salary.

    After a thorough legal review, a New Jersey judge placed Rice in a diversionary program that will allow his record of charges to be expunged if he maintains his good citizenship for a year.

    Like many of us, Ray Rice had a moment in his life he wishes he could take back.

    But, he can’t. He got himself into that situation, and he’s paying for it. And, he deserves this public and private flogging and the punishments that have come with it. Ray knows that better than anyone.

    Team Owner Steve Bisciotti, our President Dick Cass, General Manager Ozzie Newsome and I all have sons. (Dick and I also each have a daughter.) We know what it is to be a parent. We know what it is to support a child after a mistake. We know the importance of turning the situation around and becoming better. We know turning your back on a loved one in a time of need is not what families do.

    Bisciotti Weighs In

    When we found out about Ray's punishment during yesterday morning's practice, I told Steve that I wanted to write about Ray Rice and how much respect I have for him. I wasn't sure it was my place or the team's to talk more about Ray right now. I thought the subject was so sensitive to the franchise that I should check with the owner, a man with great insights.

    "That's your call," Bisciotti told me. "I don't think Ray needs it, and I don't think you'll change the minds of those who don't want to have anything to do with Ray. ... How sad we all are that he tarnished his image. No one outside, I've learned, can understand how we look at these guys as our sons and close friends as opposed to just employees.

    "I saw that clearly when we lost the AFC championship at New England (at the end of the 2011 season)," the owner continued. "I had friends tell me, 'You must hate Lee Evans or Billy Cundiff. They cost you a trip to the Super Bowl.' It was the opposite – we felt for Lee and Billy. I wished that they'd get another chance. I felt the need to protect them like I would one of my sons. It's not like that in my other businesses.

    "Don't we all have days or moments or periods in our life we regret? Ray showed great character for the six years I've known him. He has shown remorse after a bad incident. It was out of character. I don't think now is the time to abandon him. You say we are a Ravens' family. I've come to believe that."


    http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news...Ray-Rice/f618f957-e03f-4fc6-919e-638552b14c2b



    Ravens then remove Rice's name off of team roster list ASAP after getting rid of a "family" member and abandoning him after the media did what they didn't do, release information that would put a bad stain on the bow the NFL has been trying to create.

    http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/roster.html




    The NHL condones fighting in their company, but when it comes to the image of the others, fighting is bad for business.

    By the way, this little tidbit while on the topic of the NHL

    Black Ice by George and Darril Fosty

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    Brothers George and Darril Fosty have re-released their book Black Ice: The Lost History of the Colored Hockey League of the Maritimes, 1895-1925

    Though Willie O'Ree did not become the first black NHL hockey player until 1958, blacks playing hockey dates back to the 1870s, nearly as long as the great game itself.

    Twenty-five years before the negro baseball leagues in the United States and twenty-two years before the birth of the National Hockey League, the Coloured League helped to pioneer not only black athletics in Canada but the entire emerging sport of ihockey. The authors argue that the black contributions to hockey were conveniently ignored or simply stolen by whites who observed such elements as the "flopping" goalie and the slap shot.

     
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    IMO, it's obvious how they see us. It's like if you want to dominate our game that we let you in, then we are going to use you. That is what I get from this post, and it's true. I remember what caused the strife between Pippin and Tony, Kemp, and some white boy that they just plucked out of nowhere and traded Kemp Even Seattle was scratching their heads over this decision. and that was the season they played the Bulls for the title.

    Peace!
     
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    Thanks for this info bruh..

    Peace!
     
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    Law enforcement official responds to NFL and Goodell's claim that the NFL did not receive the latest video.

    The claim is that the video was sent to an NFL Executive in April.


    More to come...
     
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    Updates...

    ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. -- A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive five months ago, while league executives have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.

    The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

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    http://deadspin.com/report-nfl-had-copy-of-ray-rice-tape-1633159819
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11503851/ray-rice-videotape-sent-nfl-executive-april
     
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    Union waits on NFL on Rice ban

    NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith said Wednesday that the union has yet to be formally apprised of Ray Rice's indefinite suspension and questioned why the former Ravens running back could be suspended indefinitely when the course of action isn't an option under the league's revamped domestic violence policy.

    "I would have expected the letter to be delivered earlier," Smith told ESPN, "but we're awaiting the delivery of the letter."

    The NFLPA said that such a letter from the league is typically received within one business day. On Monday, TMZ Sports released video showing Rice punching Janay Rice, at the time his fiancee, twice in the face in a hotel elevator in Atlantic City last February. Rice was put on indefinite suspension by commissioner Roger Goodell on Monday, shortly after the Ravens terminated his contract upon release of the video.

    "The first step in that disciplinary process would be be that delivery of that letter indicating the basis for discipline," Smith said, "and that hasn't occurred yet."

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11504060/nflpa-waiting-league-justify-rice-ban



    Basically this means Ray Rice has not yet been officially banned, and even the NFLPA doesn't know how the League can suspend him indefinitely when the new policy doesn't line up with it.

    Sounding like the NFL Players' Association may actually try to back Ray Rice against the NFL for arbitration conflicts.
     
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    Arbitrator rules Goodell must testify

    October 23, 2014

    NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has been ordered to testify in Ray Rice's appeal of his indefinite suspension, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Wednesday.

    The hearing before former U.S. District Judge Barbara S. Jones, the neutral arbiter selected to hear the appeal, will be held Nov. 5 and 6, according to previous ESPN and media reports.

    NFL lawyers had argued that Goodell shouldn't have to testify, and instead were offering testimony from Pash, the NFL's general counsel, and Birch, the NFL's vice president for labor policy. Pash and Birch were with Goodell when he met with Rice's side in June to talk about what happened when the former Pro Bowl running back hit his then-fiancee in an elevator.

    Rice described details of the incident at that meeting. Goodell has called Rice's description "ambiguous" while Rice's side has maintained he gave exact details..

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...-being-forced-testify-ray-rice-appeal-hearing