Black Spirituality Religion : The Nephilim, the Annunaki, and the Nature of the Jinn

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  1. Ralfa'il

    Ralfa'il Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Just like parts of Christian mythology was adopted from Rome.

    And parts of Roman mythology was aopted from Greece

    And parts of Greek mythology was adopted from Egypt.

    Parts of Egyptian mythology was adopted from Babylon! :jawdrop:



    Oh yes......

    Malcolm X said: I know you don't like my saying this!


    But read the Lost Book of Enki as well as other Sumerian texts and you'll find that Ra was actually Marduk of Sumeria who was sent to Egypt to drain the marshes and unite the land.

    Read about the Jinn of the Koran, the Nephilim and giants of the Bible, then tie them in with the Annunaki of the Sumerians.

    These are the beings who existed on Earth before humanity and built great cities, warred against eachother causing mischief and bloodhed who eventually had to be replaced by us.
     
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    While your other statements may be true -true Christianity doesnt come from rome but catholisim which is false christianity does come from rome
     
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    Ralfa'il Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Da River

    Thanx for those links sis......

    I get a little lazy sometimes and even forgot I started this thread until you bumped it back up.





    Let me pull an "Issa" to illustrate the connection between the "gods" of past societies and how they match the description of the Jinn of the Koran.

    Let me also state that neither I nor the Koran states the Jinn were and are inherently bad creatures, they have free will to be both good and bad.
    They are just intellectually and physically superior beings on a different plane than us....that's all.




    The Koran 2:30 says:

    Behold, Allah said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth."

    They said: "Will you lace there one who will make mischief and shed blood...while we do celebrate your praises and glorify your holy name?"

    Allah told them: "I know what you know not."



    A vicegerent is someone who replaces another in a given goal or task.

    So not only was man created to be a vicegerent, but he was to be a vicegerent...where?

    ON EARTH.

    So in order for him to be a vicegerent on this Earth, there had to be those here for him to replace.

    And no...it wasn't the black man being replaced by the white man.

    These were highly advanced beings (often called gods) of whom Allah made respect and submit to the newly created man.




    The Koran 72:6 also says:

    True, there were persons among mankind who took shelter with persons among the Jinns, but they increased them in folly.

    The Koran says that many humans took shelter with some of these Jinn.

    Who else does man have a history all over this planet of worshiping, servicing, anc contacting other than the Creator?

    Were these beings not called "gods" or deities by historians and religious scholars?




    Let's look at this from a Biblical perspective........


    In Genesis 6: 4 we read:

    There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    Who were the "sons" of God who in the original Hebrew text were refered to as the Nephilim?

    Why didn't the translators simply call them "angels"?


    Also the bible says that these "giants" were also responsible for building the cities that are now part of what we call Jerusalem today.

    For you bruthaz who know the NOI lessons, didn't Elijah Muhammad say that our "brothers" Jebus, Ariel, and Salem build Jerusalem?
     
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    karmashines Banned MEMBER

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    So Nephilim may have been ancient blacks? Not too hard to believe. Too bad orthodox Christianity considered Nephilim unions with Hebrew women so evil that their loving God had to create a flood to destroy all of the humans except for the drunkard Noah who would later treat his son Ham in a sadistic manner.

    There is another example of how the Hebrew people viewed blacks in Song of Solomon. Solomon's wife says to not look down on her because she has dark skin!
     
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    Ralfa'il Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Deuteronomy 2:11 -
    Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims



    Numbers 13:33 -
    And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight


    It says that the some of the giants were sons of Anak.


    Who was Anak?

    The Sumerians (from which the Hebrews came from) called the race of "gods" whom they served and that were on this planet before they arrived are refered to as Annunaki.


    "The Anunnaki or Anunnaku are a group of Sumerian mythological and Akkadian deities related to, and in some cases overlapping with, the Annuna (the 'Fifty Great Gods') and the Igigi (minor gods). The name is variously written "da-nuna", "da-nuna-ke4-ne", or "da-nun-na", meaning something like 'those of royal blood'1. The head of the Anunnaki council was the Great Anu, the sky god, and the other members were his offspring. His throne was inherited by Enlil, resulting in a dispute between Enlil and his brother Enki regarding who was the rightful leader. Enki was an alchemist and was said to have created mankind.

    The Anunnaki were the High Council of the Gods, and Anu's companions. They were distributed through the Earth and the Underworld. The most known of them were Asaru, Asarualim, Asarualimnunna, Asaruludu, En-Ki (Ea for the Akkadians), Namru, Namtillaku and Tutu."


    www.answers.com/topic/anunnaki-1

    The Anunnaki are the sons of the god Anu.

    In Hebrew, they are called Nephelim.

    The Greeks called them the Titans
     
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    Karma, you have to understand that while these beings in their physical manifestation may have been black or brown like the original humans.....they were not human beings.

    They were not "black people".

    A lot of groups now are calling these ancient beings "black people" or original men; the Nation of Islam teaches that doctrine.

    All the ancient cities that they are discovering all over the globe....everyone from black nationalist to Aryan white supremists are trying to claim them as their own.

    People are calling it part of some Lost civilization of "Atlantis".

    But these were not human beings like you and I but highly advanced creatures who were warring and fighting with eachother on the planet before man arrived which is why they had to be replaced.

    That's why you have a disparity between the kingships of Kemet and Sumeria BEFORE and AFTER the Great Flood.

    BEFORE the flood the kings of Egypt, Sumeria, and other civilizations reigned for hundreds and thousands of years documented....

    AFTER the flood, when men took over the reign of the kings declined to a more normal life span for a human being.
     
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    Okay, they weren't human. Fine, but I would still think that they were creatures still worthy of God's mercy and grace since after all He/She did create them.

    So, why send a flood to destroy them? If them mating with humans was that much of an evil act, why could they make kids? And why destroy them because they warred? Don't humans war and enslave?

    Even in the human world there are groups of people who have been demolished from plagues and wars. This is especially the case with Native Americans, who have become virtually extinct from the earth. This does not mean that their culture was evil or that God was punishing them.
     
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    peace sister Karma - (beautiful name by the way)

    - exactly, why would the TRUE god consider this union evil?? What you have just pointed out is further evidence that the God of the bible (?) is not the God of the "Holy scriptures"..........I say that to say that man - KIND came in and changed things to justify their purpose among us !!

    sister, look up KING SARGON ( I think I spelled it right).................................& see what it says of his birth which predates Musa or Moses & how he was found as an infant floating in the water and raised up>...............
     
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    They do get mercy from God.

    First we can't take everything the Bible says at face value, I just used those biblical scriptures to illustrate and reference my point about superior and advanced beings on Earth that I believe were Jinn.

    But those of them that do right will get their reward also.


    The Koran chapter 72 quotes the Jinn saying this of themselves:


    11. 'There are among us some that are righteous, and some the contrary: we follow divergent paths.

    12. 'But we think that we can by no means frustrate Allah throughout the earth, nor can we frustrate Him by flight.

    13. 'And as for us, since we have listened to the Guidance, we have accepted it: and any who believes in his Lord has no fear, either of a short account or of any injustice.

    14. 'Amongst us are some that submit their wills to Allah., and some that swerve from justice. Now those who submit their wills - they have sought out the path of right conduct:

    15. 'But those who swerve,- they are (but) fuel for Hell-fire'-


    I know you're not Muslim and probably question any scripture coming from Koran but this illustrates the position these "god" have in the sight of the Al Mighty.

    So just like human beings, Jinn have free will and some will be saves and other's won't depending on whether or not they follow the right path and live a correct righteous life.

    The Jinn used to be physical, but now most of them are on a more spiritual plane.





    Info

    I'm not sure but I believe the same thing was said about Nimrod.
     
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