Chief Elder Osiris : THE NAKED TRUTH and RELIGION

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  1. Chief Elder Osiris

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    THE NAKED TRUTH and RELIGION


    Beloved the Naked Truth And Religion is a piece of work presented from a White Perspective and even though they are attempting to show the fallacy in religion, they do not make themselves clear as to their position, even though they are indirectly indicating that religion and the Bible is no more than a compilation of Symbols presented in allegories and the use of Metaphors.

    They are some what presumptuous in their claim about the term of Good and Evil, when each of those terms receive their value by the people that created and introduced them.

    As they say, the bible is no more than an expression of Astrology, astronomy indicating the action and behavior of our Solar system, from which such information came from our Ancient First way Ancestors, which they fail to talk about in details because they are not qualified to do so.

    The Bible is no more than the Human Being revelation of their imagination about God, based on the Ancient information they discovered and stole away from the Temples of our First Way ancestors.

    Astrology as a science is as old or more so than Astronomy, as a matter of fact the both is the study of the Stars and Planets showing the influence that those Heavenly bodies have on the objects that consist of the physical Universe, meaning that the Stars and Planets influence and compliment each other, which include the Anthropomorphous Being, which is a part of the physical illusion universe.

    The Bible and its characters are no more than an imaginary story of the Human Being personifying the action and behavior of our Solar system, which consist of the Elements and the Star and Planets, with made up stories.

    The concept of Good, Evil, and Sin, is all Human Being made, God has nothing to do with such concepts and terms usage.

    The Divine Being is endowed to be their own savior of whom accountability rest solely with you.

    There is no set of standards establish for us to live by that is caused by God, all that the Bible have so depicted for Man to do in the name of God, is no more than the work and words of Man calling himself the Human Being.

    All objects that are of the physical illusion universe is equipped with a level of intelligence that give mankind the ability to Reason profoundly or not and the decision is ours to make because we are accountable to each other in all that we do in Life, which should be acceptable to the extent that our Action does not infringe upon the other in a destructive and disrespectful action of our Life attitude and Behavior.

    The Naked Truth is presented from the Human Being Mind which a lot is based on their assumption as they presume to believe what they say is True, for instance the piece about so call prehistoric Time and they suggesting, because of the Huge size of those Creatures of that age of time, that they were to be feared, which suggest that they were evil intruders upon this planet, seeking all that they may devour, they have no facts to support that claim, they only have some fossils of those creatures, no written recorded documents that explain the relationship between those creatures and the Divine Beings, as a matter of fact, they did not have to much to say about the Black Beings of earlier ages, yet we are the First to come walking upon this planet.

    I saw prejudice and a lot of assuming in that commentary, the Naked Truth and Religion, yet they are putting forth the best thesis against Religion that they can and the many comparisons of Jesus and the Ancient Egyptian religion is True, but is not accurate to the extent to show that Our First way Ancestors, those that predate the so call Egyptians, they are the people that brought the Astrology to this planet, because that science accurately express the attitude and behavior of our Solar System in relationship to the Divine Beings of the physical Universe.

    Our Sun was given various names that identified it, also names were given to the bodies that make up our solar system, terms that go back before our Solar system came into being, so any term you find in the book call the Bible, is no more than Terms created by the Human Being to be affixed to the Star and Planets of our solar system, and they were introduced in such a way so that the world would take that book call the bible literally, when in fact it is no more than a book of allegory and Metaphors, symbolizing the Solar System we are a part of.

    There is no God that Command and make promises, we in and of this solar system, we create our own standards for our Life way of Living, it being acceptable or unacceptable based on the way we act and behave toward each other, that either give us Joy or Pain, that is what become the meaning of Good and Bad, Evil and Righteousness, Sin and Obedience, life created values that describe our action and behavior toward each other, which give us cause to take the responsibility to protect our Life way of Living, which should be Divine, as so is the action of the Planets to the Isis Star of our solar system.

    Now that is the Naked Truth about Religion, which is no more than a figment of the Human Being imagination, created to control and dominate the Minds of the World for their own selfish gain, as they target the Black World in their evil action..

    HILY
    Hoteph
    Osirs
    Chief Elder


    nwaakwukwo <[email protected] com> wrote: To: AfrocentrikWorld@ yahoogroups. com, [email protected] ps.com,
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    From: nwaakwukwo <[email protected] com>
    Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:25:44 -0700 (PDT)
    Subject: [Mwananchi] THE NAKED TRUTH and RELIGION


    Dear Netters and fellow forumites:

    This link was originally part of a thread where Ghaddafi made a statement refuting the cruxificition of Jesus. It is the video, refuting Christianity altogether that I wish to deal with.

    http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=6410112404 402873027

    I watched the above link that was sent to AfroCentrikWorld Forum by netters that I love and respect very much. Though we are on opposite sides of the religion issue, I think it is important to listen with an open mind rather than to be closed minded. I believe "Truth" comes to us in many ways...even from the mouth of babes.

    Here is my response to the video entitled: "The Naked Truth about Religion". May you receive my response with the same openness as I have received the video.
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    In the introduction, one of the speakers, Mr. Partridge, prefaces his remarks by saying that he does not belong to any organized religion and that his beliefs are simple,i.e. "Do the most conscious good in his lifetime and the least conscious evil".

    But, "Good" and "Evil" are not universally defined. They are subjective and defined within a given person's cultural, political and religious setting. For example. "circumcision" is defined as a good practice in some cultures, in other cultures, it it considered "mutilation" and "evil" in another culture.

    Further, what is defined as "Good" to one person, may still not be within the boundaries of the law, or allowed by religious tenets. Therefore, in Mr. Partridge's remarks, which may seem to present him as a "Good" person it leaves the viewer wondering, what standard does he use to measure "good"? If not by religion...then what? In any case, Partridge could never be "neutral" or completely "objective" on this issue of "good" and "evil".

    SYMBOLS IN RELIGION - THE CHALICE

    The explanation of the Holy Grail/The Chalice, which is a symbol of rebirth and life in Judaism and Christianity was fascinating. The speaker said the "symbol" began as a female symbol of the life giving blood filled womb. He said that man was in awe of a woman being able to bleed without injury and her ability to give life grew to be replaced by a male symbol. The male dies to give life, hence the story of the crucified/resurrect ed Christ, Krishna and other such religious stories. The bloodfilled chalice is the male replacement of the blood filled womb..

    Yes, there are many religious symbols. But, the female to male replacement theory presupposes that God of the Jews/Christians was always a male figure.

    What if what Partridge and his crew presupposes if false.?

    THE IMAGE OF GOD

    In Genesis of the Bible said that humanity is created in the image of God.

    Gen. 1:27 says "So, God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

    Man and woman together...are the 'image" of God. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation because God is a Spirit. A Spirit has no sexual orientation. But, these terms help us to better "understand" and relate to God.

    There are "female" descriptions of God. God refers to himself as a hen gathering her chicks. Luke 13: 34

    God is referred to called "El Shaddai", the "Multi-breasted one" or "Provider". God refers to himself as a momma bear in Hosea 13:8, that is bereaved of "her" whelps.

    There are other references to God as a "mother".Psalms 123:2, Luke 15:8-10 to mention a couple.

    THIS VIDEO PRESENTS "VERIFIABLE" FACTS?

    "No one has come back from the dead..."

    One of the speakers says this, but, he cannot confirm it unless he can show the bones of Jesus who is said to have risen and ascended by many witnesses.

    He also makes a comparison between countries where religion is widely practiced and those where religion is not widely practiced. Supposedly, fewer social problems and crimes are in countries where religion is practiced less. Yet, the speaker does not name one country or name one source of this information!

    "Social problems" and "crimes" cannot necessarily be a condemnation of a country. For example. African Americans drinking from a water fountain designated for "white people" was a "social problem" in the 1960's, it was also a "crime" to do so, yet, it was those very acts that caused people today to have more freedom of movement in their society and caused the laws to be changed to protect this freedom of movement.

    THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD - ASTROLOGY AND SUN WORSHIP?

    The examples of the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Christians killed by Roman, Salem witch burnings, Arabs vs Jews, Catholics vs Protestants, Hindu vs Muslim as the cause of the slaughter is not an indictment of the doctrines of religion, but of the misrepresentation, misapplication and perversion of these doctrines by organized religion.

    Jesus was a great critic of organized religion, saying that man required of man what God did not require, resulting in heavy burdens on the people. As is written, man looks on the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart of man.

    But, to the history that was provided in the video...

    It was fascinating and attempted to explain the similar themes and events throughout various religions that are found in Judaism and Christianity. It failed however to explain why of all of the various species on earth, man was the only one that did something as peculiar as "worship". Is the tendency to worship an innate trait in man? I think so.

    Further, the video did not come to the logical conclusion that if there were these similar symbols, themes and religious events running through history, that some of it must be true.

    It is a lie that religion, Christianity, in particular, teaches conformity by fear of hellfire and eternal damnation. The principle doctrine of Christ is "Love". For God so loved the world...St. John 3:16. These men of organized religion did not quote the Bible accurately. The Bible always said the earth was a circle, hence round, not flat. Isaiah 40:22

    I found the manipulation of English words "arc of Noah/argha noa" and "Israel/ ISis-amenRA- EL" a cheap trick that would not work if one goes to the original texts of these words "aramaic".

    On to the Zodiac. To say that Christianity really has its roots in ancient texts that are based on astrology, hence the zodiac is an outright lie. Ancient astrology is based on the moon, not the sun. The Jews, Africans, Indians, Chinese are all lunar based systems.
    It would hold the whole notion of the Sun being the object of worship in Jewish and Christian religion, based on the Zodiac is, for that reason, false.

    All history begins from oral history...myths. Why? Oral knowledge preceeded written. But, science would tell us that since people of the ancient world were so close in proximity to one another, even closer before the Great Flood, it would make sense that creation myths and religious stories would be similar, being passed around from culture to culture through trade and travel.

    To me: Egypt's waters of chaos/baptism/ a woman's womb only takes my faith in the blood of Jesus to a greater level. These things show me how universal the gospel is and how many people around the world could relate to it. It also demonstrates that some truths i.e. single eye, chief cornerstone have global significance.

    Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, but unlike Amen-Ra, Dali Lama and other ancients...His kingdom is not of this world...never claimed to be.

    Adaoma

    P.S. One who is truly a Bible student will know that readings and comparisons made in this video between Buddha, Krishna and Jesus were not all accurate ideas from the Bible and many were misrepresented. Ex. Jesus speaking to his mother from the cradle is not recorded in the Bible. There are more flaws.
     
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    I always felt there was significance to the renowned saying: "Map your life by the stars". It has a spiritual connotation to it:spinstar:

    :) Peace
     
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    Follow the intuitive of your inner action, which we refer to as feelings unexplained and you follow the Essence of your soul, which inform you of all you need to Divinely Know, beloved.

    Here Is Loving You

    Hoteph
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    Here are some things we need to consider. The intuition of the present day African, especially the African in Amerikkka, must be reshaped before it can safely be followed. The mind is but a computer that must be programmed. We must do work to discard the programs of the Human Being and replace them with the intelligence of the Divine Self.

    Please read
    http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=470145#post470145
     
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