Black People : THE MYTH OF BLACK ON BLACK CRIME

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  1. Kemetstry

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    The Myth of Black-on-Black Violence
    As we head into another long, hot summer, the media -- and black folks -- need to retire this loaded term.
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    By: Natalie Hopkinson
    Posted: June 16 2010 6:22 AM

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    This year's Black History Month was a particularly bloody one in Shelby County, S.C. Sergio Leary, Ja'cole Wilson, Karon Barrow and Leon Thurman Jr., all young people in their 20s, were all shot dead, according to local news reports.
    The Shelby Star's analysis of the burst of violence, hit on all the usual crime reporting clichés: ''black,'' ''at-risk youth,'' ''subcultures that don't value'' life. And then, there's the clincher. ''Despite overall crime numbers falling in recent years, black-on-black [emphasis added] violence remains a prevalent issue,'' the newspaper reported.
    You can expect to hear these key phrases on a local television news report near you as temperatures--and tempers--rise this summer. Black clergy like Al Sharpton, prominent black thinkers like Kevin Powell, and writers at black journals like the Urban Politico will shake their heads at this ''black'' scourge, self-flagellating that ''we gotta do better.''
    Of course, any loss of life is cause to scream from the mountaintops. But explaining the tragedies by using loaded phrases like ''black-on-black'' violence is dangerously wrong. First, in a country that is essentially still segregated (and not necessarily by black people's choice) what race do you expect for both victim and perpetrators to be? Language like ''black-on-black violence'' effectively smacks a racial label on problems that are socioeconomic and thus the collective, moral responsibility of every American.
    At this particular moment in our history, it is more important than ever to reject these kinds of racialized explanations. They are being used to slander public school children as incapable of learning; to deem affordable housing a hopeless cause. In gentrifying cities, ''black-on-black crime'' is used as a weapon to encourage public policies that treat black people as blights on the new urban aesthetic. There is a moral imperative to challenge these assumptions.
    Every. Single. Time.
    ''It's as though there is something defective about black culture and moderate income, and low-income, working-class kids and families live in different worlds,'' said the University of Illinois geographer David Wilson, who traced the origins of the term in the early 1980s in his brilliant book, Inventing Black-on-Black Violence (Syracuse University Press).
    ''Supposedly we saw youth that were going astray and that was the problem,'' Wilson continued. ''The media imposed this narrow [black-on-black] lens that looked at the category of culture. The culture was deemed as problematically different than the mainstream.''
    In his most recent book, Cities and Race (Routledge 2007), Wilson looked at how prevailing public policies in cities have taken these racialized arguments to some very scary places. According to Wilson, city planners in gentrifying cities now argue that there is a new global reality afoot. As such, prominent urbanists such as Richard Florida argue that what we need in our cities more than ever are creative people. People who are highly educated--people who can find their niche in the world economy.
    This might be all well and good, if we lived up to the ''post-racialism/colorblindness'' everyone keeps crowing about. You know, that notion that you are not judged by your skin tone. That in America, everyone has an equal chance. No need to bring up the nastiness of the past.

    http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2010/06/the_myth_of_blackonblack_violence.2.html






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    whites kill more whites than anybody else - dont ever remember hearing talk of white on white violence on the news or in papers - dont read any accounts of whites tellin each other to do better - race is only mentioned when were involved
     
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    Not "dangerously wrong," but racially loaded.

    Amazing. My pastor gave a sermon on this today. I think he called it America's "racialized imagination." Something like that. Had everyone on their feet, amen-ing and 'preach'! :lol:

    At EVERY moment in AMERICAN history, it is important to REJECT such BOGUS racialized explanations of anything! Use the "proper" term: affinity violence. In other words, people commit violence on people just like them! Whites are violent toward other white people, Asians toward other Asian people, etc. But let's get down to "the real nitty-gritty!" Black on black CRIME is what they usually banter (bogusly!) about. Look at the stats: What race commits more larceny, more RAPES than any other? White people (check any FBI stats!). Who gets arrested 8 times more often than blacks for DUI? Talk about "culture!" It's a white thang, folks. 8 times!? When every black pulled over for DUI gets cuffed and arrested? When half the time, whites get "warnings," NOT arrested???? Crimes are committed by people against people just like the criminal. How do you think Bernie Maddox got started in the largest swindle in U.S. history? By bilking Jews, just like himself. He even ran his Ponzi scheme on Jews in his synagogue!

    Let's talk about white on WHITE "affinity" crime, I say. Then we can talk about paltry-in-comparison black on black "affinity" crime.

    Yes, m'am! And it behooves us to be aware of the FACTS, beginning with almost all crime/violence is intra-racial, i.e., affinity-based.
     
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    Affinity fraud includes investment frauds that prey upon members of identifiable groups, such as religious or ethnic communities, language minorities, the elderly, or professional groups. The fraudsters who promote affinity scams frequently are – or pretend to be – members of the group. They often enlist respected community or religious leaders from within the group to spread the word about the scheme, by convincing those people that a fraudulent investment is legitimate and worthwhile. Many times, those leaders become unwitting victims of the fraudster's ruse.

    These scams exploit the trust and friendship that exist in groups of people who have something in common. Because of the tight-knit structure of many groups, it can be difficult for regulators or law enforcement officials to detect an affinity scam. Victims often fail to notify authorities or pursue their legal remedies, and instead try to work things out within the group. This is particularly true where the fraudsters have used respected community or religious leaders to convince others to join the investment.
    Many affinity scams involve "Ponzi schemes" or pyramid schemes, where new investor money is used to make payments to earlier investors to give the illusion that the investment is successful.
     
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    Kadijah Banned MEMBER

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    Examples of Affinity Fraud:

    Affinity frauds can target any group of people who take pride in their shared characteristics, whether they are religious, ethnic, or professional. Agencies such as the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission have investigated and taken action against affinity frauds targeting a wide spectrum of groups.[1] Some of the cases include the following:

    As stated, whites commit more affinity CRIME than any other group:

    When it comes to Affinity Crimes - and Fraud IS a "crime" - white on white crime is infinitely greater and more prevalent than any black on black crime.
     
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    Remember Berni Madoff:lol:
    Ponzi schemes

    Enron where many white folks lost all their retirement. Whites talks about blacks that kill blacks....BUT forget that they do more damage to themselves. What about those who commit suicide after losing their money:(
     
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    The black families who lost their loved ones to black violence wouldn't call it a "myth".
     
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    Neither would the white families who lost their loved ones to white violence. Or the Asian families who lost their loved ones to yellow violence. Or the Hispanic families who lost their loved ones to brown violence. Are there any race/nationality/ethnic/color families who throw a party when they lose their loved ones to AFFINITY violence? :10500:
     
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    Then why call it a "myth"?
     
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