Black People : The more educated you are, less tolerance you have for poor blacks

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  1. dustyelbow

    dustyelbow Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Posted June 10, 2006 11:36 AM
    Study participants favor whites over blacks for Katrina relief aid
    - Richard Morin, Washington Post
    Saturday, June 10, 2006




    Americans are more willing to provide extended government assistance to white victims of Hurricane Katrina than to African Americans and other minorities -- particularly blacks with darker skin.

    Overall, the "penalty" for being black and a Katrina victim amounted to about $1,000, according to an online study by the Washington Post, washingtonpost.com and Shanto Iyengar, director of the Political Communication Lab at Stanford University.

    More than 2,300 individuals participated in the latest experiment, which tested how much subconscious racial bias shapes attitudes toward disaster relief. The participants were skewed heavily toward Democrats and liberals -- only 12 percent identified as Republican. The sample, with many drawn from the Washington metropolitan area, was also highly educated -- 84 percent had at least a bachelor's degree.

    Participants went to a Web site that featured a news article about the effect of the hurricane. A photo of an individual featured in the story accompanied the article.

    But here's the trick: The race, gender and occupation of the featured person varied. Some participants read an article about a flood victim named Terry Miller who was depicted in the photo as a black man; others read the same item, except the Terry Miller in the photo was a white man, while in others, Terry became a black or a white woman. (The Latino victim was named Terry Medina.) In some photos, the skin tone was darker; in others, it was lighter.

    After reading the article, participants were asked how much government aid hurricane victims should get for housing and general living expenses. For each type of assistance, participants could give from $200 to $1,200 per month, and from three months to a maximum of 18 months.

    If race mattered, there would be a difference in the level of assistance favored by respondents who read an article about the white Terry Miller and the assistance favored by those who read about a black Terry Miller.

    There was. People were willing to give assistance to a white victim, on average, for about 12 months. But for an African American victim, the average duration was a month shorter while the amount of aid was nearly the same, meaning that blacks would collect about $1,000 less than white victims.

    Skin tone also mattered. A darker-skinned black person received about $100 a month less over a shorter time than a light-skinned white person, all other factors being equal -- a huge effect. Participants also were the least generous after reading an article on looting.

    "These results suggest that news media coverage of natural disasters can shape the audience's response," Iyengar said. "Framing the disaster in ways that evoke racial stereotypes can make people less supportive of large-scale relief efforts."

    On the Web

    A complete analysis of the results of the latest Washington Post-Stanford experiment is available at www.washingtonpost.com/richmorin.

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    As a fool I am GLAD I am NOT highly educated about matters of choosing who will SOCIALLY LIVE LONGER over a REAL HELLISH SITUATION.

    Decision like this do fall on "ruthless" white and the 'highly educated'.

    Oh well.
     
  2. I-khan

    I-khan Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    you mean the more "schooled" you are, the less tolerance for poor black/Afrikan people,ultimately you educate yourself,like we as people have always done.
     
  3. DA BROTHER LOVE

    DA BROTHER LOVE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Im not surprised... we have black people going to schools that are controlled by secret societies, it should be expected that a person would indirectly take on the prejudice attitudes as well whatever else those colleges would want you to accept
     
  4. Bisabee

    Bisabee Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Who exactly is this article talking about?

    Is it saying that less formally educated white people (for ex. po white trash) are more tolerant of poor Black people? How valid are the findings in this article?

    In general, we need to be careful that this article is not interpreted to mean that Black people should not get college degrees or that somehow education ALONE makes you less tolerant.

    I'm saying this because some of those Black people who don't think much of formal education will use this to argue that college educated (Black) people think they're "all that" and don't like poor Black people.

    IMO, we need as many Black people as possible with AAS, Bachelors, Masters and Ph.Ds in EVERY subject area available. Having a college degree does NOT stop people from reading their own history and anything else they want to read.

    Not saying that there are no formally educated poor Black people, but the less formal education you have these days, the more likely you are to BE poor, especially if you are Black .
     
  5. kemetkind

    kemetkind Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I don't agree with too many of your views but I have to give you much props on this.

    We cannot allow education to be devalued and expect to excel, or even survive as a free people.

    Our issue is the "formal" education we're receiving doesn't teach us enough about our true selves to equip us properly to deal with other ethnic groups.

    Whites have no such issue.

    Think about it, the article is implying more highly educated whites will support their own group more than they will others.

    What's so wrong with that?

    If they did this study on only college educated blacks and it turned out we too would give the most money to blacks, less to mulattoes, and the least to pale-skinned whites, then our education would have worked to produce a consciousness for us just as it has for them.

    We need solutions to restore the value (and quality) of formal education for black folk while figuring out how to deliver the missing ethnic consciousness via that education.
     
  6. dustyelbow

    dustyelbow Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    That is what WORKED for the HISTORICALLY 'BEST' known of US from SLAVERY till TODAY mostly.

    Self-Educating ourselves STILL should work for US today. The principal is STILL the SAME.

    It is a TRADITION for ME as it was FOR our ANCESTORS.

    :terrific:

    Why mess up a GOOD thing?
     
  7. kemetkind

    kemetkind Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Which ancestors did it work for?

    Didn't ancient black civilizations have formalized paths for education, much more involved and demanding than any we have today?

    Didn't freed slaves immediately go about the business of establishing schools?

    Education is of course a life-long pursuit and the majority of it IS self initiated but I'd be careful about implying we don't need formal education today or that our ancestors didn't need it then.
     
  8. dustyelbow

    dustyelbow Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Self-education involves FREEWILL to search or seek it. You do it at your TIME of READINESS. Self-Education includes FORMAL EDUCATION not EXCLUDE IT. It all incorporated ONES FREEWILL which gives CHARACTER.

    Formal Education: Means you went through a process at times you consider it almost being FORCED LEARNING instead of doing it when you have reach a TIME of READINESS. Formal education EXCLUDES self-education because you develop the HABIT that a TEACHER needs to be there for you to LEARN and sometimes that TEACHER does not FEEL LIKE teaching.

    Have you been in a class where you can tell the TEACHER DOES NOT FEEL like TEACHING. I have and I dont LEARN NOTHING when I wish too LEARN.

    Also FORMAL EDUCATION has the HABIT to say once you REACH a PHD you KNOW EVERYTHING. DONT NEED to go FURTHER.

    Which like you state, education is a life-long process.

    But formal education seems to hide things while self-education reveals things.

    Such as

    Education is the key to unlock the golden door of freedom. G. W. Carver

    No MONEY in that quote but that is what EDUCATION is MOSTLY used FOR today. To AQUIRE MONEY and POSITION.
     
  9. MississippiRed

    MississippiRed Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    From what I've seen that's true .......a lot of so called well educated upper class Black folk look down on those who are truly poor or under and un-educated as well as those they perceive to be the same......the same is done with Black folk who are so called enlightened and who say they know the deal and the truth.....they all look down on folks who are and who they perceive to be less educated or knowledgeable than themselves.......I've experienced it first hand personally from some and through some folks I know ......folks who think they know more than you are always trying to "enlighten" you in one way or another ..talking to you as if you are a child handling you like the so called deaf, dumb and blind..............regardless of which definition of education we use.........it's a trip....and a sad reality at the same time........



    Red
    aka
    Destroyer of Men
     
  10. I-khan

    I-khan Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This reminds me of a method called "divide and conquer" in terms of "education." If education is used by the ideologies of another people than that would make us no more than their psycho-intellectual slaves and become pawns for the ones who "taught" them.

    If it is by our standards and/or ideologies than those of us who try and show those who did not know and/or would be deemed poor,"un-educated",etc than those who may recieve the lesson,depending on how it is given,will look at the "teacher" as a "know it all". All to often those recieving a message from someone by another of our own who are tryin to show them somethin are thinkin they are being treated as a child and such.This perception on the "recievers" behalf may be based on a mis-interpretation of the attitude(and/or a derived assumption) of the "teacher" and/or the "teachers" condescending attitude.


    We need each other to show how we all never stop learnin and come to a common ground on how it is shown to others.Especially those who have been traumatized and/or are young.
     
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