Chief Elder Osiris : The Misconception Of The Black Panther Movement

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  1. Chief Elder Osiris

    Chief Elder Osiris Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    By Chief Elder Osiris

    Beloved I have not appeared before you as a Black Civil Rights Romantic, I am a Divine Calculative Black Divine Being with Nationalistic Roots and I will not paint a picture of the referred to Black Panthers, that is not accurate, and I have had the privilege to personal observe the rise and fall of the Black Panther Movement of the First and Second wave, and how the Black Panthers are being described as being of Black Nationalist tendencies and was and is an advocate of Black power, such is a mis-characterization of the Black Panthers Movement in Real Time.

    First of all there has never been a rise and fall of Black power in America, only in Afrika does that claim fits.

    The Black Panthers were no more than an angry segment of the Black Community doing the Civil Rights rebellion, angry not over the fact that America would not pay to our Enslaved Ancestors their Reparation, not over the fact that Black people are stuck in a caste of oppressed injustice in America, not over Black People have the Right to Repatriate to our Enslaved Ancestors Home Land, Afrika, as the next established State in Afrika, Hell No.

    The Black Panthers yesterday and today was and is angry over the fact that America will not allow them and other Black People to integrate and Assimilate into the main stream of America Society, that beloved is no effort to reclaim Black Power for the Black so call Afrikans, and there is nothing Nationalistic about the Integration/Assimilation Black Panthers.

    The Panthers were and is angry over the way America is treating Black people by forbidding Black people to have a respectful piece of the America Pie, what ever that mean.

    The Black Panthers have never been for Black Power and Black Nationalism for Black People who are in America or any where else we are on this planet, as the Black Panthers attempted and now attempt to break into America as a thief and a Robber, all because America keep her doors Locked so that Black people may not enter with Divine Respect and for the purpose of informing America of our intent to collect our Enslaved Ancestors Reparation and to get the Hell out of America.

    No, No, such never was and is not not now, the goal of the Black Panther Party.

    So Hell no, the Black Panther and all like minded Black organization with an America Civil Rights tendency has never been about securing Black Power for Black People and has never been a True Garvey Advocate for Black Nationalism for Black People.

    Why? because such a status for Black people is only attainable for Black people only in Afrika and not in America, Europe, Asia or any of the other continents you may find Black people roaming.

    The Black Panther Party was no more than a castaway by the Black Civil Rights organizations, whose goal was and is, peaceful Black Annihilation by the mean of integration / Assimilation into America, the same goal of the Black Panther Party, they just did not at the height of the Civil Rights rebellion, have the patience that the Negro integration/Assimilation Negroes had at the Time, the Black Panthers wanted immediate self destruction by entering the America Melting Pot Society and that is what angered and do anger the Black Panther Party today.

    There can be no Black Power under the canopy of Black Nationalism gotten in America, never have been and never will be, because the exercise of Power and being Nationalistic in its truest form, is not for America to decide who is to have Power in America, only the Hidden Forces of Lucifer has that authority to decide who is to exercise limited power in America and Black people is not in consideration.

    Black Power only rise and Fall in Afrika, any where else Black People are, and is calling for Black Power, I urge you to take a good look at where such a call for Black power is to be realized, and if it is not in Afrika, then know that there are Black Power advocates impostors in the Midst of Black People in America.

    Be Kind To Your Self, Beloved

    Hoteph
    Osiris
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  2. chuck

    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    In all due candor and honesty:

    You calling the Panthers 'integrationists' is like some white folks calling Malcolm X 'a Civil Rights leader'...

    In both cases:

    Nothing could be further from the truth!

    The Panthers I remember were just overly idealistic, i. e., they felt and though they could rally the rebellious masses and/or bring about the revolutionary transformation of this nation...

    The reality checks came via those whites already in power, both insiders and outsiders, via high and low places/spaces, etc., some of whose minions also pitted Panther leaders against each other (aka the Newton/Cleaver split), and/or led what would have naturally/normally been allies into enemies, as peace conferences between various chapter leaders/rivals etc. turned into shootouts ad naseum, via informants and infiltrators ad naseum spreading gossip/rumor/misinformation about the one to the others local leaders, etc., which has been and is being revealed-- i. e., via officially declassified documents-- related to the word--'counterinpro'--which was directed at those so called 'militants' and 'radicals'--even at a particular U. S. president's presumed/assumed 'enemies--be they democrats or republicans--etc.--during the Nixon era...

    Then came the Pentagon Papers--the Watergate break in to the office(s) of it's author--direct connections to some of the highest officials of a particular elected leader's cabinet--and the impeacement of some folks most beloved 'Cold Warrior'...

    Uh...

    I also do recall some fella--named Bush--related to it all--some way or another...

    Ahem...

    So in due respect to the memory of our dear gone but hardly forgotten Black Prince:

    Let's do get our facts straight...

    Malcolm deserves and would expect nothing less...

    Wa aleikum salaam...

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    Some folks use Marcus Garvey as a yardstick to measure ALL historical Pan Africanists/Black nationalists and this results in numerous errors not only in persepctive but also in judgement.

    I just find that sometimes its not worth the effort arguing against the these tendencies but to place them within their proper historical context.

    In the context of REVOLUTIONARY Black nationalism and Pan-Africanism the Black Panthers were the first organization in the United States to establish relationship with the FLN in Algeria AND the MPLA in Angola. The Angolan connection has some very deep historical significance to those who trace ancestral roots to Angola/Congo, as it was the first Black Nationalist Liberation Movement to come to power through the method of armed struggle.
     
  4. Chief Elder Osiris

    Chief Elder Osiris Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Beloved

    The problem with us is we are blinded with an over zealous desire to keep prop up those leaders who we have chosen to be our heroes, which is nothing wrong with that, if that is what we choose to do, but the fact of the message is, dealing with the goals and objectives of the panthers, and with Malcolm, and anyone else we would like to throw in there during their activity of expressing objections to the racist attitude of the American system.

    We can call it revolutionary action or civil rights protesting all such actions that was taken place and is being taken place today in America by black people calling themselves leaders of black people in America. They all have the same objective and goal, and that is to become one with America. If that is not an act of desire to be integrated and assimilated into the main stream of America seeking justice from America then tell me what was the motivation objective and goal of the Panther Party, Malcolm, and any other so called Black revolutionary action in America, with the exception of the Hon. Marcus Garvey.

    We can rest assure that the Hon. Marcus Garvey is the mental bar that all serious black minded people in leadership or not, we should be striving to reach, if our objective is freedom and independence with a Sovereign of life, if not, then we will attempt to fake black power and black nationalism by attempting to make it fit into an American system, that is rooted in racism and unjustified prejudice towards black people.

    Black Power and Black Nationalism are the two principles of advocation that was not of confusion to the Hon. Marcus Garvey, because he always pointed us in the direction where we should go, if we really and truly desirous of obtaining black power and assuming the qualification of black nationalism which was not what the Panthers was in rebellion for, nor was such the advocation by brother Malcolm.

    We may not desire to consume this Divine Truth, but that is the diet for all serious minded black people should feast upon.

    We aren't going to get what we want from the Divine Truth, and want is a poison dart stuck in our mind, because we are too busy trying to bend the Divine Truth to meet our wants, and never interested in taking action, to get what we need. The message stands on its on merits attempting to convince no one, just revealing the Divine Truth that reveals the state of the Black mind confusion today.

    Be Kind To Your Self, Beloved

    Hoteph
    Osiris
    Chief Elder
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