Law Forum : The Mike Brown Shooting

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As far as Marian Carey i just read a bit...conflicting stories in that case as well. I am gonna say the cops overreact ed and she should not have been shot. Nor do I think race had anuthing to do with her death.
The girl was scared out of her mind. It made no sense to chase her down like a deer, and slain her in front of her baby daughter.

It may actually be a lot more to this story that runs deeper than race. But I'm gonna leave that alone for now..
 

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it seems to me you are making some pressumptions but I guess that's all we can really do. I feel my presumptions are less race based and more on logic.

I have a hard time believing that a 160 lb police officer has the strength in his body...let alone in his hand...to grab and control a 290 lb person while sitting in the car. Brown can use his whole body. Foot,calf,thigh, ab's, back, shoulder and arm muscles to get away. How on earth can he control a man nearly twice his size while sitting down in a car.

It just doesn't make a lick of sense.
 

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I tried to grab my 12 year old daughter while sitting in the car no more then 6 weeks ago....she got away from me in half a second. She is 12...I am 230 lbs and go to the gym a few days a week..If I can't control someone half my size with the power of my forearm(gripping strength) how is a man supposed to control a man twice his size.


He can't.
 

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Let it be known if the homeless man shot was black this would have been a national event...As it is a white man shot....I never heard the story.
The story didn't exactly go unnoticed. Part of the reason it wasn't a national event was because it was a bunch of white cops killing a white person. It would almost be like telling on yourself. To much coverage on this would have woke up more angry militias. I'm sure they would rather deal with a bunch of people protesting with there arms in the air yelling, "Don't Shoot".
 

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What I think Enki is that you are posting like you were there.
So are you..

But I don't have to be there, tell me what justifies this cop's actions? His hands were up, he was shout twice in the head, do you think he put his hands up after that?

You don't know if racist white America is adding to the story because you don't know the story...either do I.
No, but they are lying which is the samething trying to achieve the same results.

Ferguson Police Chief Lied About Why He Released Alleged Michael Brown Robbery Tape: Report (UPDATED)

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson lied when he said he had received "many" specific requests for the videotape that allegedly shows Michael Brown robbing a convenience store, according to a new report.

"All I did -- what I did was -- was release the videotape to you, because I had to," Jackson told reporters on Aug. 15 when asked why he released the robbery footage. "I’d been sitting on it, but I -- too many people put in a [Freedom of Information Act] request for that thing, and I had to release that tape to you."
Writing for The Blot, Matthew Keys reports that the police department did not receive any specific requests for the videotape.
"A review of open records requests sent to the Ferguson Police Department found that no news organization, reporter or individual specifically sought the release of the surveillance tape before police distributed it on Aug. 15," Keys writes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/ferguson-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-tape_n_5773420.html
If he was shot when his hands were in the air the cop is a murderer.
That's what I called him because that is what he did. Which came first, the shots to the head, or body? Logic should tell you that either way, he was executed.
You have a problem with people sending him money as a presumption of his innocence.
In a way yes. It says they condone this type of behavior against blacks.

But no one has a problem with the looting and burning stores as a presumption of guilt.
Whites riot also, and many times for BS reason like winning a cricket game. There are many reasons why people riot, our reason you simply wouldn't understand.
 

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it seems to me you are making some pressumptions but I guess that's all we can really do. I feel my presumptions are less race based and more on logic.

I have a hard time believing that a 160 lb police officer has the strength in his body...let alone in his hand...to grab and control a 290 lb person while sitting in the car. Brown can use his whole body. Foot,calf,thigh, ab's, back, shoulder and arm muscles to get away. How on earth can he control a man nearly twice his size while sitting down in a car.

It just doesn't make a lick of sense.
He controls him the same way he would control any person he may be placing under arrest, or giving a jay walking ticket too, which should have been done here. That's done by approaching him like an officer. Not by recklessly backing up toward him.

What don't make since is for this kid with no criminal background, and ready to start trade school, to start hitting an armed police office for no reason. That story doesn't add up.
 

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So are you..

But I don't have to be there, tell me what justifies this cop's actions? His hands were up, he was shout twice in the head, do you think he put his hands up after that?



No, but they are lying which is the samething trying to achieve the same results.

Ferguson Police Chief Lied About Why He Released Alleged Michael Brown Robbery Tape: Report (UPDATED)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/ferguson-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-tape_n_5773420.html


That's what I called him because that is what he did. Which came first, the shots to the head, or body? Logic should tell you that either way, he was executed.


In a way yes. It says they condone this type of behavior against blacks.



Whites riot also, and many times for BS reason like winning a cricket game. There are many reasons why people riot, our reason you simply wouldn't understand.

Of course I wasn't there. And I have stated that. And given room and respect to both sides. I have not been definitive. And you have been.


About the robbery...or tapes or whatever...I don't really care about that at all.. That's a separate incident. A request was made for all evidence leading up to the shootings. That does cover the tape even if it wasn't specificly asked for. Maybe he thought it would quell the burning of buildings...IDK.

More pertinent to the subject will be that the officer went to the hospital for injuries sustained and that it was not in Browns friends tale of what happened. So if you want to start talking about lying....start with the stuff that pertains directly to the case.
 

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He controls him the same way he would control any person he may be placing under arrest, or giving a jay walking ticket too, which should have been done here. That's done by approaching him like an officer. Not by recklessly backing up toward him.

What don't make since is for this kid with no criminal background, and ready to start trade school, to start hitting an armed police office for no reason. That story doesn't add up.

Recklessly backing up or "approaching him like an officer" does not begin to examine the logistics of what I laid out. It does not examine how a man controls a man twice his size while sitting in a car.

And...not that I care to even get into the second paragraph of your post but.....he was just 18...so..criminal record as an adult would not cover much time....I heard something about a juvenile record...and a cop shooting a kid with his hands up while an eye witness stands closely by doesn't make much sense either....so whatever on all that. None of all that either was really means much to me...record or not...we are talking about that day..and that day alone....same with the smokes...non issue.
 

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About the robbery...or tapes or whatever...I don't really care about that at all.. That's a separate incident. A request was made for all evidence leading up to the shootings. That does cover the tape even if it wasn't specificly asked for. Maybe he thought it would quell the burning of buildings...IDK.
Sorry, you don't get to play that game. You insinuated that whites were not adding things to this shooting in order to sway the public. Well I've shown you where the top dog (who is white) lied. So what was his reason for releasing that tape other than to smear the black man, and justify the white man's actions.
 

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