Brother AACOOLDRE : The Maccabees and the Fab Five in the NT

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    THE Maccabees & The Fab five in the NT

    By Andre Austin

    William R Farmer who wrote Maccabees, Zealots and Josephus (1956) p. 126 states: “With the possible exception of Hebrews 11: 33-38 the New Testament does not refer to the Maccabees in any way”. That’s only not mentioning their name directly but by innuendo indirectly as we shall see.

    The original Maccabees were five sons:Simon, Judas, John, Eleazar (larazarus) and Jonathan (John) they were transformed in the NT Matthew 13:55 as James, Joseph, simon, judas and Jesus.

    Hebrews 11 confirms all the abuse that was going on in 4 book of Maccabees:

    “Who shut the mouths of lions, quenched the fury of flames, and escaped the edge of the sword: whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison, They were stoned; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goat skins, destitute …they wandered in deserts and mountains and in caves and holes in the ground. These were all commended for their faith”.

    1st Book of Maccabees chapter 2

    2:13 To what end therefore shall we live any longer?

    2:14 Then Mattathias and his sons rent their clothes, and put on

    sackcloth, (Biblical times rough cloth of goats hair) and mourned very sore. (A precise match with Hebrews 11:35-38



    I would concur with farmer that this is a reference to the Maccabees who fought the Greek in Romans from 167BC to 70AD. In the 1st book of Maccabees it states that after the leaders fought the Greeks/Romans they put on sheepskins and goatskins and put their faces in the ground. A Powell Davies writes: “We should note at this point that it was in the period following the Maccabean wars that the Qumran community was founded” which was in the desert, mountains and caves (The Meaning of the Dead Sea Scrolls p.56)

    Paul in Hebrews commends them for their faith but reverses everything they fought and suffered for. With the exception of a change by 1 degree John the Baptist came from the desert and wore camel’s hair around his waist (Matthew 3:1-4). We should also note that Farmer states that there was no fundamental change of the Jewish nationalism to the Torah from fighting the Greeks in 167 BC to fighting the Romans 66-70AD. They were doing and saying the same kind of things relative to the Torah (see p. 82).

    With that said it clear that the NT was an odd freaky creation designed to pacify Jews and have them give up their zeal for the law and righteous conduct according to their standards. Every popularly known Jewish hero name was turned into a villain in the NT. To understand the NT it’s necessary to understand the Maccabee wars with the Gentiles. This will also allow you to see all the frauds, parodies and lampoons going on in an anti-Semitic fashion against the Jews.

    When Josephus wrote War of the Jews in his preface he started out mentioning the Five sons of the Macabee movement of their militaristic and messianic struggles with foreign powers. Surprising he ends war of the Jews with a new breed of 5:”So these (Jews) people died with this intention, that they would not leave so much as one soul among them all alive to be subject to the Romans. Yet was there an ancient woman, and another who was of kin to Eleazar, and superior to most women in prudence and learning, with five children, who had concealed themselves in caverns under ground”,.-(War of the Jews 7,9,398-399). Guess who these new five show up as symbolic of the Maccabees as James, Joseph, Simon Judas and Jesus (Matthew 13:55) And this is where the anti-history and anti-religion begins. They want these NT fab five Maccabee’s to submit to everything that the the real and original macabees fought. What we have here is an insertion of a fake maccabee virus to extract from true Judaism. Its called satire, parody pruning, grafted, hybrid, and gilded history `

    Notes:

    Josephus Atwill was right in his book for claiming that the NT was a parody of Titus military campaign. Nobody gas debunked him yet or knock him off his square yet.

    “Qumran represents the archive of a pro-Maccabean nationalist priesthood one in sympathy with the aims of Judas, John Hyrcarus etal” Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered p.122 By Robert Eisenman

    At the Qumran caves we are finding interesting poems and hyms hidden away from scholars until Nov 1991. We have “a poem praising alexander Jannaeus” and a hymn for Jonathan (Who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls? By Norman Golb p. 264-268. These two men above fought foreign powers. The Qumraan society was a fortress not a monk site with a factory to make weapons. Qumran was basically a library collection of scrolls representing several religious sects. The Essence didn’t believe in resurrection so that cancels them out from being Pauline Christians.
     
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    I'm sorry I have to correct my self. The first Maccabees tale isn't in the preface to War of the Jews its in the first book. I found it strange the first Maccabees attack from the Mountains but in book 7 a new fab five of Maccabees will emerge from the underground rock caverns like the foundation from which Peter is in the NT. The Joke is that the New Maccabees will be nonviolent in the NT.
     
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