Black People : The King Alfred plan

originally posted by Excel10K
You must be spewing some canned response you shot to anyone who dissagrees with you. When have I EVER said ANYTHING about GREATER ACCEPTANCE??? I don't care about greater acceptance. I care about being a strong, self-sufficient people who are not destroying ourselves or self-limiting ourselves. I could care less about greater acceptance.

You are correct it is a 'canned' response, much as it should be, truth is that which is, you don't change truth it to fit the discussion....:spin: It also appears canned when it is a decades old response to the same queries. So much change, yet, so few changes! Shows we may listen...but that we don't necessarily hear!
 
omowalejabali said:
What this comes down to is what I expected. If you or your organization cannot pay me for my LABOR then dont expect me to volunteer for free. Been there done that for much too long.
If our organization had Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, AND Ophra Winphreys money, I would see absolutely no benefit in HIRING a person who would not take on a cause as significant as this for free. This mission is FAR too important to trust to hirelings.

Joh 10:12 But he that is a hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
Joh 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is a hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

We might pay shepherds, but we have no intention of ever paying hirelings. You, may or may not be a hireling....but you have certainly presented yourself as such. We don't want anyone who supports our principles because there is a paycheck attached to it, we only want those who support our principles because they care about our people and believe these principles are essential to reversing the trends that the principles you all support have reinforced. We don't need people who will drop our principles like a hot rock when the wolf comes.

There are several indications that you have a potential to be a shepard, but it will come only after we who strongly believe in our principles have withstood the attacking wolves will you choose to be a shepard rather than a hireling. We come to the battle field expecting the wolves. We are ready, willing and able to withstand the attacks they will bring. These attacks will not phase us for we know what we can expect in the future if we do nothing...if we allow things to continue as they have, if we allow things to go the way they have gone during the last 40 years of tactics you all support....the blame, and excuse tactics have gotten us nowhere. You have looked at the trends on our site, you have seen the reality in the street. It is going to take a tenacious group, lead by shepards, not hirelings to reverse those trends....shepards that can withstand the wolves, hecklers, naysayers, and the peanut Gallary.
 
excel10k said:
If our organization had Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, AND Ophra Winphreys money, I would see absolutely no benefit in HIRING a person who would not take on a cause as significant as this for free. This mission is FAR too important to trust to hirelings.

Joh 10:12 But he that is a hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
Joh 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is a hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

We might pay shepherds, but we have no intention of ever paying hirelings. You, may or may not be a hireling....but you have certainly presented yourself as such. We don't want anyone who supports our principles because there is a paycheck attached to it, we only want those who support our principles because they care about our people and believe these principles are essential to reversing the trends that the principles you all support have reinforced. We don't need people who will drop our principles like a hot rock when the wolf comes.

There are several indications that you have a potential to be a shepard, but it will come only after we who strongly believe in our principles have withstood the attacking wolves will you choose to be a shepard rather than a hireling. We come to the battle field expecting the wolves. We are ready, willing and able to withstand the attacks they will bring. These attacks will not phase us for we know what we can expect in the future if we do nothing...if we allow things to continue as they have, if we allow things to go the way they have gone during the last 40 years of tactics you all support....the blame, and excuse tactics have gotten us nowhere. You have looked at the trends on our site, you have seen the reality in the street. It is going to take a tenacious group, lead by shepards, not hirelings to reverse those trends....shepards that can withstand the wolves, hecklers, naysayers, and the peanut Gallary.
Hireling?

Okay, then you are prime example of what I have been speaking about for years. But I wish you well KNOWING that so long as teachers are not compensated for their labor that you will only be paying lip service to correcting the achievement gap. I do have financial NEEDS in order to survue and no longer intend on getting PIMPED for free.

Have a blessed day!
 
The more I think about this..

omowalejabali said:
Hireling?

Okay, then you are prime example of what I have been speaking about for years. But I wish you well KNOWING that so long as teachers are not compensated for their labor that you will only be paying lip service to correcting the achievement gap. I do have financial NEEDS in order to survue and no longer intend on getting PIMPED for free.

Have a blessed day!


Speaking of wolves in sheep clothing...

Seems to be that the establishment negro who comes preaching the gospel of the bible, the us military, and of being a "shepherd" is exactly that.

A wolf in sheep's clothing looking to prey upon the masses of black folks.

A shepherd is one who LEADS a "flock" very much in the same manner that corrupt politicans and pimpin pastors. They come and ask for free labor and money on top of it like modern day sheriff "johns".

Why should any black person today work for free or follow any one else instead of being their own BOSS? What sense does this make?

As I said before been there done that. And every black person needs to make aliving in this society in order to survive.

What a contradiction. On one hand the christian ministers a "prosperity gospel" yet on the other hand the "christian" advocate comes expecting folks to sacrifice themselves for the common good.

Well, when I see these black televangelsts DONATING their material posessios to poor black people, their bentleys, their mansions, and more importantly, feeding and educating black kids from their own pocket and no longer asking for tithes then I know a change has come.

Until then I will NOT support, advocate or buy anto any "plan" based on the "gospel" written by romans and greeks and englishmen.

For real, dude lost me with those quotes from Job. I have heard that party-line before in the church and did like Lot, leaving and never looking back.
 
omowalejabali said:
Speaking of wolves in sheep clothing...

Seems to be that the establishment negro who comes preaching the gospel of the bible, the us military, and of being a "shepherd" is exactly that.

A wolf in sheep's clothing looking to prey upon the masses of black folks.

A shepherd is one who LEADS a "flock" very much in the same manner that corrupt politicans and pimpin pastors. They come and ask for free labor and money on top of it like modern day sheriff "johns".

Why should any black person today work for free or follow any one else instead of being their own BOSS? What sense does this make?

As I said before been there done that. And every black person needs to make aliving in this society in order to survive.

What a contradiction. On one hand the christian ministers a "prosperity gospel" yet on the other hand the "christian" advocate comes expecting folks to sacrifice themselves for the common good.

Well, when I see these black televangelsts DONATING their material posessios to poor black people, their bentleys, their mansions, and more importantly, feeding and educating black kids from their own pocket and no longer asking for tithes then I know a change has come.

Until then I will NOT support, advocate or buy anto any "plan" based on the "gospel" written by romans and greeks and englishmen.

For real, dude lost me with those quotes from Job. I have heard that party-line before in the church and did like Lot, leaving and never looking back.

:) The quotes are from John. Joh is the three letter identifier for the book of John.

Next, either you somehow concluded that my name is Creflo Dollar, or you hate Bible christianity so much that the mere mention of scripture sends you into a trance where you spew everthing you dislike about false profits upon the messenger. Let me assure you I am not Creflo nor do I preach a prosperity Gospel.

I am not sure what you thought I was asking you to do...I did not ask you to sell all your possesions and follow me. I did not ask you to do anything that would distract from your livelyhood or ability to earn a living. If you don't support our principles, I don't want anything from you other than that you stand out of my way as we endeavor to save the lives of our brothers and sisters who are dying in the street.

For those of you who want to wait until all racism is eliminated, until the wrongs of history have been corrected, until everyone has stopped being so mean to us poor little black people, before we can BEGIN addressing the common sense tactics of correcting behavior, character, and poor choices, go right ahead....just don't oppose our efforts to reverse trends.
 

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