Black Spirituality Religion : The Jackal

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  1. Music Producer

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    In the Dogon knowledge a Being was created that the Dogon call the Jackal / Son of GOD / Smithy. They were basically the first hybrid Beings created from Nummo and Original Earth Inhabitants. The Jackal was the Being created or born from Amma (GOD) raping the Earth. They say the Jackal was the first being that was born alone and isolated, which caused a type of madness, insanity.

    What is meant by born alone is a complex perception but I will try to explain it in a commoners grasp. Humans are the result of a genetic experiment from the Nummo seeking to merge themselves with Original Earth Inhabitants. The first offspring from this genetic merger created a Being (Jackal) that looked like the Nummo but was unable to communicate, understand and interact with the Nummo because they lost the ability to produce and receive Sonar. It is believed the Nummo communicated and perceived through Sonar or Echo Location like Dolphins, Wells and Bats. With the Jackal lacking the ability to Sonar or Echo Locate they could not integrate with the kind they looked like, Nummo; thus the Dogon say the Jackal was born alone, isolated, soulless which manifested strange behavior.

    The religion of the Nummo and the Original Inhabitants of the earth evolved around their perception which was Sonar and Echo Location. A perception based on these principals would allow a being to see and fell the status and conditions of the planet the being was on. Or the Being could Echo Locate Nature and have an entirely different and unexplainable experience. The Jackal lack of ability to do this also isolated the Jackal from religion as it originally could be perceived, thus they were soulless. The same problem exists with us today, thus our religion has to be manufactured.

    The Jackal being the first Nummo to exist in this way was extremely violent with a hostile type of madness towards everything. The Jackal caused the entire earth to be on fire through crashing a Nummo ship into it and thought to kill Amma (GOD), it’s Father, the Creator. It is said the Jackal danced on the roof of the crashed Nummo ship in joy of murdering it’s Father. The Dogon continue to this day imitating and symbolizing the dance in ritual celebrations while wearing a red skirt and mask, Dance of the Jackal.

    My point to this is of course to share some Dogon knowledge and culture but to also present a question that popped up in my head as I was reading The Master of Speech and Conversations with Ogotemmeli.

    In both books the Dogon present a formula that was given to them by the Nummo. This formula was a guide for practicing mating and controlled the genetic reproduction of humans. There were basically eight major families of humans which were descended from the eight ancestor (Nummo). These now human families could not simply just randomly pick and choose to be lovers or sexual partners for the fear of regenerating or creating the genetic makeup of the Jackal.

    The formula given to us by the Nummo predicted what families could mate with what families without fear of the genetics of the Jackal resurfacing.

    What I began wondering is, did we stick to this formula after the Nummo left?

    Is it possible that all of these wars, bombs and manufacturing of Nuclear weapons is a result of the Jackal DNA infesting the earth?

    When the Nummo return, will they find the earth infested with the Jackal DNA and start a process of cleansing?

    This would be in harmony with Old Testament Scripture if one looks at Sabeans as the Nummo and Sons of GOD as the Jackal which indeed the Dogon do call the Jackal Son of GOD.

    Thoughts, comments, debate, questions and answers are welcomed from all……
     
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    Interesting questions. I am still trying to figure out "Why Do The Heathens Rage".
     
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    Why on earth would anyone look at the Sabeans as anything of the sort?

    Even your Bible speaks of who the province of Saba is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheba

    Sheba (from the English transcription of the Hebrew name sh'va: שבא, and Saba, Arabic: سبأ, also Saba, Amharic: ሳባ) is a southern kingdom mentioned in the Jewish scriptures (Old Testament) and the Qur'an. The actual location of the historical kingdom is disputed between Ethiopia and Yemen. However, it is possible that it could have been situated in Ethiopia and Yemen.

    In the Old Testament genealogy of the nations (Genesis 10:7), Sheba, along with Dedan, is listed as one of the descendants of Noah's son Ham (i.e. son of Raamah son of Cush son of Ham). In Genesis 25:3, Sheba and Dedan are listed as sons of Jokshan. Another Sheba is listed in the Genesis 10 genealogy as a descendant of Noah's son Shem, i.e. a Semite. (There the genealogy lists Sheba as son of Joktan son of Eber son of Shelah son of Arphaxad son of Shem.)


    So where are you getting this other Non-sense from?
     
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    Another case in point.
     
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    your words do not reflect the dogon at all

    (Music Producer) - In the Dogon knowledge a Being was created that the Dogon call the Jackal / Son of GOD / Smithy.

    this being is just as much symbolic as it is literal.
    the jackal is not the smith. the jackal is the first son of god, the smith is the first son of man.

    (Music Producer) - They were basically the first hybrid Beings created from Nummo and Original Earth Inhabitants.

    this is not correct. there are offspring from the incestuous relationship between the jackal and his mother...

    the nummo spiritually transform the first 8 children of man, these 8 are both the ancestors of man and the spiritual helpers/teachers/guides of man.

    (Music Producer) - The Jackal was the Being created or born from Amma (GOD) raping the Earth.

    the "earth" was amma's wife; rape is absolutely the inappropriate word. the jackal later rapes his mother, "earth". amma does not rape the earth.

    (Music Producer) - They say the Jackal was the first being that was born alone and isolated, which caused a type of madness, insanity.

    What is meant by born alone is a complex perception but I will try to explain it in a commoners grasp.


    with all due respect i don't believe you've grasped this concept.

    (Music Producer) - Humans are the result of a genetic experiment from the Nummo seeking to merge themselves with Original Earth Inhabitants.

    this is absolutely inaccurate. you literally have to ignore ogotemmeli's words to draw that conclusion. the nummo protect the earth and spiritually purify men, transforming them in order that men can have a connection with the spiritual world. this is not a ufology doctrine, this is a spiritual doctrine.

    (Music Producer) - The first offspring from this genetic merger created a Being (Jackal) that looked like the Nummo but was unable to communicate

    again incorrect.
    :) you are contradicting yourself now. in this post you've stated that the jackal was first created by amma & earth, now you have him created by the nummo. which one is it?

    (Music Producer) - It is believed the Nummo communicated and perceived through Sonar or Echo Location like Dolphins, Wells and Bats.

    why are spiritual beings communicating with sonar? is that the best that can be done in the spiritual realm? the first nummo never take on a fleshly form at all. the transformation for the men is spiritual. sonar in the spiritual realm?

    (Music Producer) - With the Jackal lacking the ability to Sonar or Echo Locate they could not integrate with the kind they looked like, Nummo; thus the Dogon say the Jackal was born alone, isolated, soulless which manifested strange behavior.

    the jackal was born alone because he does not have a twin. amma had planned for twins. it has nothing to do with sonar. your words have nothing to do with the dogon beliefs.

    (Music Producer) - The religion of the Nummo and the Original Inhabitants of the earth evolved around their perception which was Sonar and Echo Location.

    yes, because sonar and echo location completely explains the need for blood sacrifices, meditation, trance...etc.

    (Music Producer) - A perception based on these principals would allow a being to see and fell the status and conditions of the planet the being was on. Or the Being could Echo Locate Nature and have an entirely different and unexplainable experience. The Jackal lack of ability to do this also isolated the Jackal from religion as it originally could be perceived, thus they were soulless. The same problem exists with us today, thus our religion has to be manufactured.

    are you saying today's religions should be based on echo location and sonar? what are we locating with these echos? god?

    (Music Producer) - My point to this is of course to share some Dogon knowledge and culture but to also present a question that popped up in my head as I was reading The Master of Speech and Conversations with Ogotemmeli.

    quite frankly, associating this madness with the dogon is only disrespecting them. these are not dogon ideas.

    (Music Producer) - When the Nummo return, will they find the earth infested with the Jackal DNA and start a process of cleansing?

    :) will the nummo return before or after jesus?
    seriously, the nummo are spiritual beings, have never left, the dogon certainly continue to communicate with them today. because ofcourse, they are spiritual beings, and not aliens.

    (Music Producer) - This would be in harmony with Old Testament Scripture

    ironically, this is probably the first sign that you are being led astray...
     
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    OK…
    I will play your game….

    So what is the Symbolic meaning of the Jackal?
     
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    here is your jackal in kemet: wep-uat

    http://www.crystalinks.com/wepwawet.html
    It was not unusual in ancient Egypt for more then one god to take the same form, with similar functions as another god. Wepwawet (Upuaut), called the son of Auset, was one of several Egyptian deities to take the form of a canine, today often incorrectly identified as a wolf. Egyptologists now believe that he was more likely associated with the jackal, though he is often depicted with a gray or white head.
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    Wepwawet's image is generally portrayed with a uraeus and a hieroglyph that has been described as representing the king's placenta, surmounting a standard known as a shedshed.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wepwawet
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    wep-uat is sometimes associated with protecting ra's boat during the journey through the underworld at night, like set. also associated with anpu.

    wep-uat is a polar constellation.
     
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    OK,

    Now give us the Dogon theology of the Jackal.
     
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