Black People : THE INFLUENCE OF MARCUS GARVEY

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  1. Destee

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    THE INFLUENCE OF MARCUS GARVEY PT. 1




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    THE INFLUENCE OF MARCUS GARVEY PT. 5


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    For Sister Purple ... :love:


    Sister Sister Sister ... if you can watch this one, maybe when you're at your Sister's or something ... it is so deep. So sad. It talks about how, from the very beginning, the US government was out to get him. It said that there had never been an official Black Spy for the President, but in an effort to get Garvey, they hired the first one. There were several in all, one of them Garvey poured his heart out to, during his most trying time. Told him about how he wanted to commit suicide. The pressures of the job he had. It talks of how the very ones he trusted, Black People, betrayed him. It talks about after he was deported, UNIA Members could not even meet. That the movement was being completely shutdown by the US government. One of the Sisters in it, said, if you even mentioned UNIA or Marcus Garvey, you lost your job. It goes into great detail, showing glimpses of his life, that i had never seen or heard about. It is so sad, informative, powerful. Like i said, when you get a chance, listen to it.

    Anyone else who watches, please share your thoughts with Sister Purple too! :)

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    Does it give the name of the BLACK group who was used to destroy him which still exists today doing the same job to our leaders???
     
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    Beloved Mighty warrior King god thinking Info-Moetry.

    Thanks for that mentioning.

    The enemies among us who looks like us (both genders).

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    Hmmmm Brother Info ... i don't remember the mention of any BLACK group used to destroy him.

    Several individuals were named, and the Black government spies had secret code names ... something like ... "800" ... and ... "P131" or something like that.

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    Some of us will cut our very own heart out for a dollar and a pat on the head.
    Yet I don't ever want to believe we won't get it together and turn it all around.

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    Professor Robert Hill, author of the Marcus Garvey Papers was one of my instructors when I attended UCLA. He has put about 30 years of service dedicated to developing Garvey's archives. An important point Hill used to make was how the movement was destroyed from within. For this reason, while acknowledging the role of the US governemnt in defaming the Garvey Movement, as with the situation with the Nation of Islam, I believe there needs to be more blame place upon the Fifth Column "enemy within" African revolutionary movements and organizations which do more damage internally. I will keep making this point until it gets across.

    The UNIA had international branches outside of the US, including a large membership in Jamaica. The film speaks to how Garvey was treated in the land of his birth by his Jamaican countrymen when he went back, and how this treatment forced him to move to London, of all places, the main colonial power which colonized various parts of Africa and Jamaica.

    Again, we focus more on racism than our own internal weaknesses which the system exploits to our own detriment. Furthermore, there was no single BLACK organization that was used to discredit the Garvey movement. Randolph, DuBois and Padmore were Black socialists who represented more than a single organization and the Harlem Renaissance was initiated in Harlem on the backs of the garvey movement's collapse, retreating into a Black intellectualism devoid of Black working class character and content which made the UNIA such a progressive force, and there has been no ture Black working-class movement since. And this was how Garvey exposed the Black socialists who themselves had no roots in the working-class struggle even though they propagandized the need for socialist revolutionary action. Garvey exposed the contradictions in the Black socialist and communist camps and its interesting to note how these same ideologues were used by the us government and corporate media to defame the movement.
     
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    First of all, Yes, I know the group - would you like for me to guess????.....LOL

    Secondly, Meritrious Manumission is the most probable thing Black folks could have gotten out of taking down Garvey [for the Powerful "elites"], as well as others. Sad how we have to watch out for each other when we are all we've got.

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    the influence of marcus garvey...

    what we still fail to grasp is that[ANY]group or organization geared towards the uplift of our people is a threat to the man,and he will set out to destroy them often from within...the garvey movement-malcolm x-dr.king-the panthers,all these black heroes had the people hopeful for a new day in america,but noooo said the man,there will be NO NEW DAY UNLESS I GIVE IT TO YOU.
     
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    Our killing / hating on each other, is not new ... many of us are guilty ... and it's way past time to stop it.

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