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    HOTEL RWANDA…Tall Trees & Cockroaches?~ Biblical Translations
    ~ The Exploitation of Young Boys in Ancient Times~ Historical Connections [part XIV]

    [Tiaa & Amenophis II]-----[Mitemwiya & Thutmosis IV]-----[Amenhotep
    III/Tiye]-----[Nefertiti& Amenhotep IV/Akhenaten]--- [Meritaten/[Merytamun & Smenkhkare]------[Ankhesenpaaten/Ankhesenamen King Tut & Regents]--------Tiya/Tey &
    Ay/Ag--------[Mutnodjmet & Horemhab]


    For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the
    righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the
    kingdom of heaven. ST MATTHEW 5:20.

    Adam, Sheth, Enosh,
    1 CHRONICLES 1:1.
     
    The cryptic story about Oedipus of Thebes in Greece became popularized in Greece during the 400’s BC of which was the time of the rise of the White Greeks that ushered in the Age of Democracy. Modern day scholars based the story upon the founder of the city of Thebes in Greece as being the ancestor of Oedipus of whom only goes back to a few hundred years prior to the Age of Democracy, but this would be a major part of the deception with regards to the secrecies that lie beneath this story. There were other ancient written variations of this story of Oedipus and also other poet renditions that prove the actual story stems from a much earlier time yet and still, today’s historians almost exclusively rely upon the script that was developed around the time of the Age of Democracy. Usage of certain early terms in this Oedipus story proves that although there was a city of Thebes founded in Greece, Greek Thebans go much farther back in time. So to understand the history that surrounds the word ‘Thebes’ would be to understand how Thebes in Egypt actually correlates to Thebes in Greece. To fully understand the script about Greek Thebes developed in the 400s BC of Oedipus would be to understand too, how this story correlates to some events that happened about a thousand years earlier in the 1400s BC in Egyptian Thebes during the time of Akhenaten and Queen Tiye and why now some modern scholars discreetly reveal a connection. However with just a little bit of research, some parts to the Oedipus story do make it almost absolutely impossible not to recognize a correlation. There are major hidden facts and details that surround this story of which if revealed, many mysteries of the distant past would not be a mystery anymore. Furthermore like most Greek stories, it would be the actual words used that hold the very key to the deeper meaning of the stories presented. There was a systematic process that occurred in the past and present in which certain Greek words were coded in order to present only parts of a story to some but then to offer the fuller meaning to others. So the true origins of this Greek story has been preserved in the very words used to tell the story.

    Out of all of the variations of this Oedipus story, they all contain the same major theme and this becomes the central issue to study in order to decipher historical truths amongst other fictitious elements within the content that led to so many ancient Black people of whom became further exploited due to such fabrications. The main theme of this story revolves around Oedipus who was the son of king Laius and Queen Jacosta and he was said to have killed his father and married his mother. Other major elements of this story included some obvious details such as; the heinous and gross act of incest between the woman and her own son, hate and then murder [patricide] of a father by his own son, a mysterious plague, and the presence of the Sphinx upon which became a riddle that had a bearing on the outcome of the story, but astonishingly the weavers of this Theban tale fabulously laid it out in such a fashion that all of the naturally forbidden evil and unnatural immoral acts committed had simply occurred by happenstance!? Uh Huh. But now to begin to unravel the truth from the fiction it would be expedient to decipher the cryptic name of the main character Oedipus and then to apply the true contents that surrounds his name to other historical facts. The definition of his name ‘Oedipus’ was stated to mean ‘swollen foot’ but because his name does not match anything in regards to the sensationalized story at all, one possible explanation was offered up to suffice by the suggestion that the meaning refers to when Oedipus was an infant and when his father tied his ankles together and instead of death, which was the intent, Oedipus perhaps escaped with just a swollen foot. But with respect to the ancient scriptural languages of the past of ancient Greece, Canaanite Phoenicia, Egypt, and Kemet, other truths come to light. It would be the understanding of the Canaanite Phoenician script [Canaan; ‘Cana-an’, ‘aa’] of the double vowel and the kind of words that begin with a vowel that once decoded, reveal the presence of the Canaanites and much more.

    The double connected vowel [the Aesir letter] in ‘Oedipus’ and that are in all ancient words means it actually defines ‘two words’ or ‘two distinct meanings’ and many times the following consonant determines the meaning of both words. The Aesir letter ‘oe’ as in ‘Annuit Coeptis’* [ie. Apollyon (Jupiter) favors our beginnings and undertakings in 1776; Separation from Christianity in favor of State & Federal government], ‘BOEOTIA’ [Spelled, Boeotia or Beotia; the actual country where the city of Thebes was located in Greece], ‘Foe’, ‘Phoenix’, ‘Phoenician’, ‘Phoebus’ [Apollo], ‘poet’, ‘Aeneid’, ‘Aesop’, ‘DEUTERONOMY’ [2nd Book of laws], ‘Zeus’ [Water/thunder god], ‘Europe’, ‘Euroclydon’ [south & east wind], ‘Euphemism’, ‘Aegyptos’, ‘aesthetic’, ‘Aaron’ [ie. Aharon], ‘Ausir’, ‘Augustus’, ‘Saul’, ‘Gaul’, ‘Beel’[Bela], ‘Baal’, and etc. are all ancient words that carry a distinctive dual meaning. In addition, many of these Aesir letters were also inverted and used in words in ancient times such as in words like ‘Cheops’, ‘Cleomene’, ‘Theos’, ‘theory’, ‘people’, ‘Beowulf’, ‘Boeotia’ [Beotia], ‘eagle’, ‘east’, ‘Easter’, ‘Zeus’ [Suez canal], ‘DEUTERONOMY’ [duet] and etc. and although most of these inverted words still retain their root meanings, they also carry other distinctive meanings as a result of variations in script. Again the other aspect of the name ‘Oedipus’ would be that it begins with a vowel of which means that there was once a consonant that has been omitted. All words that begin with vowels have a significant meaning dated to the time they are scripted as such but also, all ancient proper words that begin with vowels at one time began with a consonant therefore the omitted consonant would reveal the origin of the word and other history as well. Therefore due to further research in regards to the name of ‘Oedipus’ and a comparison and contrast to other historical events around that time and that concerns ancient Greece much can be revealed.

    The fact that historians say that the name of ‘Oedipus’ means ‘swollen foot’ amazingly complies with the hidden dual words captured within the context of his name ‘Oedipus’ and reveals the omitted consonant that would give rise to the original name of ‘POEDIPUS’ and one of the dual root words connected to this character and story would be ‘POD’ [Podipus; ie. Podiatry, Arthropod…‘foot’] of which would be a Greek word that means ‘FOOT’. However, the other more revealing word captured within this name of ‘Poedipus’ astonishingly confirms the main theme of the entire story ‘PED’ [Pedipus; ie. ‘pedestrian’ (on foot) & ‘PEDERASTY’, ‘PEDIPHILE’ …(the rape & molestation of a child)] and leads to the major and true historical theme that has been hidden and suppressed under the fabricated myth of the Oedipus story. Apart from the revelation of the deeper meaning of the name of ‘Oedipus’ and other revealing terms tucked within this Oedipus story, it would be the Greek city and name of ‘THEBES’ of which the Oedipus story was to have taken place that also offers another understanding. Although many historians treat two strategic and overwhelming circumstances that occurred around the time period of the 400s BC and before in Greece as separate issues, it would be the Oedipal story that reveals otherwise. During the set up of Democracy not only was it a period of (1) much violence that seems to permeate and define many aspects of the ancient Greek civilization and history but also (2) it was a time in which child victimization was severely rampant but downgraded and suppressed to become an accepted part of life. However, the Oedipus story that became set during this time period when the city of Thebes not only marks the rampant act of child rape and molestation that included rampant acts of ‘pederasty’ [sexual molestation of a male child byway of an adult male and a forced longtime relationship], but it marks a pattern in which violence becomes connected to the ramifications of such immoral acts that involve the deprivation of human rights put upon a child. In other words, these kind of acts of exploitation against a young male child in a set period of time eventually led to a time in which there was a backlash in which certain men retaliated upon such terrible and oppressive acts, and elements of this rage has been subtly embedded even in the story of Oedipus as he does murder his father.

    The father of Oedipus, king Laius, offers one such clue as he was the main character, described to be the pederastic rapist of a young boy named Chrysippus, of whom becomes the title of another popularized Greek play retold again and again down through the ages. After Chrysippus was raped by Laius he was said by some to have committed suicide and some of the names attached to this story proves that this tale [tragedy] as well as the tragic story of Oedipus have elements within their content that applies to the original Greeks. Therefore the story of Oedipus and his father king Laius [Menelaius] has a commonality that involves the root word and terms that correlates to ‘pederasty’ and ‘pedophilia’ and that goes along with the very history of ancient Thebes when it became infiltrated by foreigners. The revelatory words also show a deception within the very context of the story of Oedipus and gives rise to doubt the entirety of the reason as to why King Lauis was written to fear the presence of his young son Oedipus. In all of the variations of the Oedipus story though, they are all in agreement in that after Oedipus murders his father Laius, he marries his mother and goes on to become the king of Thebes until the Theban people become affected by a plague. The Theban people came to believe that until the murderer of king Laius has been brought to judgment the plague will not be lifted. But when it becomes eventually known to the people that Oedipus was the actual murderer and that Oedipus in fact married his own mother, she abruptly withdraws from the public view and commits suicide while Oedipus lives onward and continues his rule for awhile as the king of Thebes. Nevertheless after this revelation soon, Oedipus gradually falls out of favor and while some write that he became blinded others explain that he was spiritually blinded to the reality of his fateful destiny. Some writers continue the Oedipus saga after the eventual death of Oedipus through his other wives, sons and daughters and etc., and mostly all of the lives of the family members eventually came to a tragic end as well. Oedipus was viewed from different perspectives throughout the stories however tucked within his cryptic name was another hidden message that completes the story themes.

    As the story of ‘Oedipus’ and his father Laius includes acts of incest, ‘pederasty’, and ‘pedophilia’ of which was extremely prevalent in that very country in ancient Greece, another message was also conveyed through another basic understanding of the marks used for ancient Phoenician letters. Over the course of time and probably for various reasons the symbolic mark for many words became altered when ‘the Holy Spirit letter h’ was omitted. Originally all hard consonants consisted of a combination that included ‘the letter h’ such as, ‘Bhutan’, ‘Cham’ [Ham], ‘Buddha’, ‘Nandhi’, ‘ghetto’, ‘cough’, ‘Khan’, ‘Phone’, ‘Rhonda’, ‘Shem’ [Semitic], ‘Seth’ [Sheth], ‘Theos’ and etc. Also, ‘the letter h’ along with the consonant was considered to be one letter and therefore it seems obvious that the pronunciations and numerical value of these letters and words correlated to their mark. It becomes a systematic process to mark words to a certain date as they were once written and captured and then sometimes altered as they became apart of scripts and literature throughout specific time periods and this would especially be the case with ‘the combination letter ph’ as it correlates to the ‘phonetic alphabet system’ of the Canaanites and the very description of Canaanites as ‘Phoenicians’. For some reason ‘the letter h’ became a single letter and was dropped in many words and ‘the letter Ph’ was sometimes given another mark ‘the letter f’ to represent its original combination mark of ‘ph’ and these changes in the Phoenician alphabet system and script was altered in many words that referred to the presence of the Canaanites. Due to the history of the many ancient Canaanite Phoenicians as they became apart of certain civilizations, there were specific times when their name description as being ‘PHOENICIAN’ became a definition and symbol for ‘enemy’ [PHOE or Foe] and this would be another hidden message within the cryptic name of Oedipus. Although in the initial part of his life Oedipus was caste as the victim and protagonist, after the revelation of him having murdered his father and marrying his mother, he later became scripted and viewed as ‘the enemy of Thebes’.

    Again, it was after it became revealed that Oedipus had murdered his father and had an incestuous relationship with his own mother that he eventually became viewed negatively by the people of Thebes and conclusively, some of the elements of this story match some of the documented facts of the events that occurred within ancient Egypt and that surrounded the rule and court of the pharaoh Akhenaten. Like the Thoths, Oedipus was also not an original Theban and this would also be further confirmed in the cryptic name of his father ‘Laius’ sometimes written in its entirety as ‘Menelaos’, a common name during the time of the Mycenaean Greeks, White Greeks. This popular story of Oedipus as ‘the king of Thebes’ though, was revived and set to have occurred after the factual and truly historical new founded ‘city of Thebes’ in Greece was established overtop of a preexisting civilization of Greek people in Thebes. But again, the actual story of Oedipus had already been scripted hundreds of years prior therefore the authors of that time period of Democracy not only drew from more ancient scripts about the story of Oedipus but they also weaved in elements that correlated to other time periods as well as different lands. They used ancient material and rewrote their own versions of the Oedipus story to have a unique setting based upon the new founded ‘city of Thebes’ in Greece. The White Greek writers of that time period revived an old story and placed it in Greek Thebes during a time of great turmoil, a time when the people of Thebes were in great conflict with some of the city-states of the White Greek writers. The original Greek Thebans would have viewed some of them in the same respects as they did the ‘the Greek Phoenician’ [a Greek Canaanite] people of whom came into Greek lands and set up another civilization. The original Thebans would have viewed the White Greeks from Athens as the character Oedipus; ‘an enemy of Thebes’. Cont.
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    ~Pedagogic Pederasty ~
    Hundreds of pederastic scenes are depicted on Attic black-figure vases. [47]. In the early 20th century, John Beazley classified pederastic vases into three types: …
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    The record of the earliest days of Thebes was preserved among the Greeks in an abundant mass of legends which rival the myths of Troy . . . Five main cycles of story may be distinguished: . . . 3. The tale of Laius, whos misdeeds culminated in the tragedy of Oedipus and the wars of “Seven Against Thebes”, . . . Laius’ pederastic rape of Chrysippus . . . and may have provided an etiology for the practice of pedagogic pederasty for which Thebes was famous.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_pederasty#Boeotia


    Pederastic Depiction  

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    Most writing on Oedipus comes from the 5th century BC, though the stories deal mostly with Oedipus' downfall. Various details appeared on how Oedipus rose to power.

    …Some differences with older stories emerge.
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    *Note: 5th century BC means the 400s BC; the Greek writers of this time rewrote the story of Oedipus and drew from other scripts written at a much earlier time.
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    It is widely suspected that Akhenaten went blind before he died (most probably from staring at the sun).2
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    Additional DetailsThe Roman numerals for "1776" appear on the pyramid below this phrase, so perhaps "annuit" is a reference related to "year?"
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     The meaning of the Great Seal which has been presented to the world is “He Favors Our Undertaking- New Order of the Ages“. . . .

    This dual-meaning exists because “Coeptum” can mean both “beginning/begins” and “an undertaking.

    . . . there are many such dual-vowel combinations occuring in a book written in latin, . . . Here we have the word “Cooptis” from Coopto, instead of “Coeptis” from Coeptum. As you can verify in it’s definition, it designates “The Elect” or “The Chosen”. . .
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    MDCCLXXVI – The Date at the Base of the Pyramid
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    MDCCLXXVI is 1776 in Roman numerals.
    . . . Thomson explained the symbolism: "The date underneath is that of the Declaration of Independence and the words under it signify the beginning of the new American Æra, which commences from that date."
    http://www.greatseal.com/symbols/MDCCLXXVI.html
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    Pederasty and the Victims; Male Children

    *Note: Modern day terms and explanations about pederasty that occurred in this time period in Greek history has caused a severe cover up of other points-of-views that existed and of which reveals a great deception. It is mostly stated in general that pederasty was rampant amongst the Greeks in Thebes and certain other Greek civilizations during this time period but distinctions are not made based upon the viewpoints of certain kinds of ‘Black’ Greek societies that spoke out against this practice and rejected it as being a complete affront. Many White scholars make it appear that certain Greeks, ‘Black’ Greeks like the Spartan Greeks and the Theban Greeks, practiced this heavily and that their civilization speaks for all other kinds of ‘Black Greeks’, but this would be a deception. There were many different kinds of unique ‘Black Greeks’ that were not even indigenous to Greek lands and their history and presence has sometimes been covered up under other Greek names, societies, and practices. Some unique Greek people may have become apart of the Theban civilizations or the Spartans [Dorians, Laconic Greeks…] or etc. Some of the original ‘Black’ Greek civilizations became targeted and exploited, and many fell prey to pederastic victimization but they still viciously rejected these practices and this would be one main reason why Greek history has been racked with so much violence. Vicious acts of rape committed against conquered Greeks and against children, women, slaves and even men have been covered up under a confusion of rhetoric by the oppressors who wrote their version of Greek history.
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    A modern line of thought leading from Dover to Foucault to Halperin holds that the eromenos did not reciprocate the love and desire of the erastes, and that the relationship was factored on a sexual domination of the younger by the older, a politics of penetration held to be true of all adult male Athenians' relations with their social inferiors — boys, women and slaves — a theory propounded also by Eva Keuls.[86] From this perspective, the relationhips are characterized and factored on a power differential between the participants, and as essentially asymmetrical.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_pederasty#Boeotia

    …The English word "pederasty" in present-day usage implies the abuse of minors,. . .

    The Greek practice of pederasty came suddenly into prominence at the end of the Archaic period of Greek history; there is a brass plaque from Crete, about 650-625 BC, which is the oldest surviving representation of pederastic custom. Such representations appear from all over Greece in the next century; literary sources show it as being established custom in many cities by the fifth century BC.
    [28]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_pederasty

    Even when lawful, it was not uncommon for the relationship to fail, as it was said of many boys that they "hated no one as much as the man who had been their lover" (see, for instance, "Death of King Philip II of Macedon'"). ….[39]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_pederasty


    Plato in his Laws, blamed pederasty for promoting civil strife and driving many to their wits' end, and recommended the prohibition of sexual intercourse with boys, laying out a path whereby this may be accomplished.[45]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_pederasty

    The nature of this relationship is in dispute. Xenophon in his Constitution of the Lacedaimonians says that the relationship among Spartan man and boys "were opposed to" pederasty, that man should make "ideal friends" out of boys, and if that the man was sexually attracted to the boy, it was considered "an abomination" tantamount to incest.[73]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_pederasty

    Aristotle, claimed that the Cretan lawgivers encouraged pederasty as a means of population control, by directing love and sexual desire into non-procreative channels:…[44]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_pederasty

    *Note: This was just recently revealed as being part of the 'eugenic plan' implemented here in America, in that homosexuality was encouraged to stop Black African American men from bonding with Black African American women.
     
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    Great Reading Sister! Thanks for Sharing!

    The title drew me in, and then the detailed work inside, awesome and sad!

    Love You!

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    Thank you very much!

    I'm so happy that you noticed the amount of effort it took to research, pinpoint, and shed light on some issues that I believe are so pertinent for Black people who want to better understand the past.
     
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    Oh My Gosh Sister ... NOTICE ??!!! ... please ... YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE GREAT WRITER !!! ... :toast: :toast: :toast:

    I have been so moved by your presentations, that it's been on my heart to ask you to be a columnist here !!!!

    I've been reluctant to do so, not sure if writing is your heart's desire, what you really want to do ... but you do it so well!

    I'd love to create your own forum for you, and you have a special place to put your works ... like those found here.

    I'd love it Sister !!! ... there is no required amount of articles / threads that you must create.

    You can do it completely at your leisure ... i'd be happy to get just one ... :jumping: :jumping: :jumping:

    You're a great writer, and i've done a lot more than just notice ... :love:

    I LOVE YOUUUUU !!! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

    Let me know! :grouphug:

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    Yes! I would absolutely love to be a columnist! Thank you so much Sister Destee!

    I'm shocked! Yes, writing is definitely one of my passions and it is a task to my liking and a great desire, and I am so shocked that you like and appreciate my efforts. One of the most important guidelines that i try to always keep in mind as I write to help me get my point across and hopefully achieve perfection when I write is that I believe in keeping the door open for editing and help from others who might know more than I do on certain subjects that I write about, and some of the experts in your community have certainly sharpened my skills! Funny thing though and just an observation, it seems like there are so many expert men here as opposed to women on some of the subject matter that I like to research and write about, and so it's alittle frightening at the first thought of me being a columnist . . . but then, well HEY!-- my second thoughts are--It's about time for a sister to join the table!!! I'm ready!

    I got a tell you I was so surprised when brother Keita started addressing me, Man!--He's challenging and amazing and then I've always looked forward to input on my research from Brother Coger, Bro. Chuck, Bro. Skuderjames, and there's so many more people of whom has caused me to do alittle extra research. Until I came to your community, i didn't beleive that there would be anyone who could help me refine my research and/or validate some of it, and was also amazed at Bro. O too, especially when I recognized his background education discipline in certain areas that have interested me. But I gotta tell you, there are no words that I can find right now to tell you how happy I am that you are in charge of this community. . . as a woman, a Sister!!!. . . cause these men are like . . . lions . . . WHEW! But now, I can put my two cents in . . . So Thank you so much Sister Destee!!!

    I look forward to being able to create some more articles as a columnist!
     
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    Ohhhhhh Sisssssssster !!! ... YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY USSSSSSSSSSSS !!! ... :jumping: :jumping: :jumping:

    Bless your heart at recognizing the many heavy hitting Brothers up in here! It's always been this way! Simply amazing to me, especially considering that i'm a Sister! It's warmed my heart always, even though they've wore me out trying to keep up with their pace and high energy ... :lol: ... oh gosh ... one would think that they might have given me a free pass, moved a little slower, something ... i mean, i am a Sister and all, but they did not do that ... i've had to hold my own up in here, carry my own weight, all of that! ... shooooo ... sometimes Sister ... let me tell you ... they be so deep into these discussions ... i be move'n outta the way for fear that they'll hit me by mistake ... :lol: ... and you're right too ... not many Sisters can go the distance with them ... i'm not sure exactly why that is ... i don't think it's that Sisters can't, but for some reason, they are not inclined to do the time ... maybe they get tuckered out ... i don't know ... but they are certainly wanted and welcome! In fact, I believe Sister NNQueen, started a thread years ago about this ... how it was the Brothers that seemed to overwhelm the meatier, more substantive topics ... interesting, though i'm not sure why it's this way ... but i'm honored that our Brothers feel welcome and safe to interact here.

    Having said all of that, i must say too, Sister, you aint no pushover ... :lol:

    You don't scare easily, nor are you easily run off ... and i think everyone can appreciate those qualities in another!

    I'm so happy that you said YESSSS ... YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY !!! ... we need more Sisters representing!

    I'm going to go ahead and make your forum now ... and i saw where you spoke to Brother Keita about this thread ... isn't that ironic, you mentioned that he's engaging you, and at the same time ... there was a post where he was asking to be able to get in on a conversation of yours ... but it was in this forum and he's trying to be considerate of the higher standards in this area ... but you saw it and said you'd repost for him ... but Sister ... i can move this thread to your new forum if you want me to ... :)

    This can be the first thread there, and i'll move any of your other threads that you want there too, just let me know which ones you want moved. If you tag me in the thread ... put ... Destee in it ... (that's @ Destee with no space) ... i'll get an alert and know that you want me to move that thread to your new forum.

    No sense in reposting this one, if you're willing to move it out of the Christianity Forum.

    Know too Sister ... as i'm sure you do ... that your Columnist Forum won't get the same protective energy that the Christianity Forum receives, but our general high standards will apply ... and well ... even they can be looking quite lacking, depending on what Member is responding, and what they're saying ... all of that to say ... :lol: ... gird yourself with truth and maybe a shotgun ... :lol: ... hahahahaha ... oh gosh ... I LOVE IT !!

    I'll be here for you though ... just know that ... aint nobody finna mistreat none of us ... not on my watch!

    I LOVE YOU ... YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY !!!

    Okay ... i'm finna make your new Columnist Forum ... let me know if you want this thread moved there.

    Thank You So Much !!!

    Much Much Love and Peace.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    Okay Sister ... i've created your Forum ... Chevron Dove ... :toast: :toast: :toast:

    If you'd like it to be named something else, just let me know!

    Also, if you want a brief byline give that to me too ... :D

    Here are a couple of images showing it, and if you want me to move this or any thread to it, let me know.

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    Thank You So Much Sister ... i really love and appreciate you so !!!

    One thing i'm really impressed with, is your ability to write fully formatted sentences and paragraphs!

    It seems a simple thing, but i've gotten so conditioned by cyber-ese that i can hardly talk / type in a complete sentence!

    It's terrible! I'm so aware of my failure to do this properly, consistently, that i really notice those that do!

    It's a great thing not to be so impacted by one's surroundings, holding on to the good habits one has been taught!

    Well ... that's my writing confession for today ... and reading you encourages me to at least try to do better!

    I Love You ... Thank You !!! ... :grouphug:

    If you have any questions i'm right here.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    MsVeraisblessed Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Congratulation Chevon Dove...:toast::hearts1:
     
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    Thank you so much Sister Destee!

    Yes, you can move this thread to my new column!

    I sure do appreciate your encouraging words! It's true too for me in that I've been worn out though by these 'hard hitters', and sometimes, I have to pick myself up, dust myself off, treat some wounds, and then sit back down at MY PLACE AT THE TABLE! I really do believe that we need more sister representing and sitting at this table though, in order to match the positive energy that our brothers have been bringing in search of the truth. I believe that we are just going to have to toughen up a little and face up to the fact that, HEY!--they are Black African men, and that means they pack a lot of spirit, force, and power that will spill over into their words from time to time, because they are obviously justifiably angry about some major issues in relation to our experience here in America. I believe that we African-typed women are a unique part of the balance that is needed to overcome some major issues that have been causing us to remain suppressed as a whole. Our identity has been misrepresented over the years and we need to be redefined to prevent becoming further suppressed under a system that still elevates European woman as being supreme. No, it's not okay for others to speaks up for us completely and in our stead because our experience here in America was extremely unique as it stems from a past in which were singled out and entreated in an awful mode and only we can fully tell our story. I think some Black men have been fighting so hard to cover all of the negative issues but when they realize a significant presence of Black African-typed women at the table, they will soon be glad. I believe we Black women can't just sit at home anymore and let society shape us to do what they want us to do because this process has also allowed society to turn right around and blame us for certain societal ills that they placed on us and that is why I thank you so much Sister Destee for having this forum. I cannot even imagine what you have to do to maintain such an environment but I'm ever so grateful.

    I believe that there are some intense negative forces that are working against Black African-typed women to keep us distracted and away from dealing with pertinent issues that directly involve us, issues that are working against our freedom, and issues that we need to address. So this is my passion but, I have to tell you, there are some issues that I don't fully understand that I have seen some men and women entertain and therefore, I do set some personal limits. So I am looking forward to sharing some of my research in my new column, but there are some topics that I believe relate to the Bible and other forums, and in regards to this particular thread, it is apart of a subject matter that ultimately revolves around the time of the Exodus in the Bible. But as Bro. Keita pointed out, the actual subject matter relates to other issues, so many other issues!--that it is easy to see that it can be put in a less non restrictive forum such as my new column!

    I'm not sure how to tag but I'll try it. Destee

    Did it work?

    Again, thank you so much Sister Destee and I'm looking forward to sharing more of my research in my new column!
     
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