Black People : THE DIRTY SOUTH - DO ALL BLACK SOUTHERNERS ACCEPT THAT TERM???

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Hmm I've been here in Texas four years and never heard the expression but I'll ask my little sister. She's more familiar with the idioms of the younger generation (not that I'm old. You're not old until you bend down to tie your shoe laces and say "Now let me see, what else can I do while I'm down here.").

I have to agree with brotha Omo about California. I was fortunate enough to get off that planet before the "Governator" came.
 

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The "dirty" South...heh heh heh.....


I believe the term originated from the South's more "rural" historic background, but some people took it to mean crooked and underhanded...which is good in the age of gangsta-rap.

If you peep the trend.....

Hiphop started off on the East coast and it focused on partying and clubbing, then the PEs and KRS Ones turned it political so the establishment moved it out West.

On the West coast it was all about gang-banging and drive-bys until Cube, Kam, Paris and 'em turned THAT political so they had to move it again.....this time to the South.

Not to progressive well-educated Atlanta, but to dirty New Orleans so Master P and his bunch could make it really "dirty" and slop it up good.
It's been focused in the South for quite some time now without really becoming political like the other places, but perhaps Katrina will change all that.
Even the "P" himself is mad as hell about what happened to his property down there.

Holla back "wardie"!
 

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Dual Karnayn said:
The "dirty" South...heh heh heh.....


I believe the term originated from the South's more "rural" historic background, but some people took it to mean crooked and underhanded...which is good in the age of gangsta-rap.

If you peep the trend.....

Hiphop started off on the East coast and it focused on partying and clubbing, then the PEs and KRS Ones turned it political so the establishment moved it out West.

On the West coast it was all about gang-banging and drive-bys until Cube, Kam, Paris and 'em turned THAT political so they had to move it again.....this time to the South.

Not to progressive well-educated Atlanta, but to dirty New Orleans so Master P and his bunch could make it really "dirty" and slop it up good.
It's been focused in the South for quite some time now without really becoming political like the other places, but perhaps Katrina will change all that.
Even the "P" himself is mad as hell about what happened to his property down there.

Holla back "wardie"!


Prior to P.E. and BDP on the West Coast there was the Fila Fresh Crew, Uncle Jamms Army, Domino and the World Class Wrecking crew...NWA came out of this and could not hardly be considered "establishment" at the time...Eze-E's Ruthless Records was an independent label which was sold out the trunk of his Impala at the Compton and Slauson swap-meets..in fact, west coast hip hop groups and artists such as RonDeVu, Egyptian Lover, Rodney O sold their tapes at swap meets before acquiring recording contracts and their emergence nationally occurred as record labels such as Relativity, Interscope, Ruthless and Solar obtained major distribution deals..so it was not the "establishment which moved it out west" *shaking head*

In fact, the major weakness in this argument is the fact that Hip Hop's so-called GOLDEN AGE emerged during this same time period from about 1986-92 , before Dr. Dre's release of "The Chronic"..when "G-Funk" emerged and west coast artists such as Dre, Snoop, WC, Mack-10, and 2Pac started selling gold and platinum lps..

As far as the South was concerned...the move from Cali to Florida of the 2 Live Crew...the Geto Boys...UGK...all preceeded "Master P" and No Limit...so Texas and Memphis actually were centers of RAP long before New Orleans or ATL and as has been discussed in other forums...many of these Brothers were NOT considered part of "hip hop" culture...
 

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Man here it is.....the term Dirty South came from a song....that's right a song...not from the Man , not as a marketing strategy, not to describe the rural South but a song........by a cat named Cool Breeze he was on a track with GOODIE MOB I'm gonna see if I still have the CD so I can post the lyrics ...and the name stuck.....that's where it came from.....before that though we was always dutty........Dirty being a term to describe a person that's out to get theirs no matter what it take....they Dirty......before my reincarnation as Mississippi Red when I started trying...trying to live right I was Dirty Red.....I got a potna na his name is Dert....short for Derty Steve.....and as such the Derty South is bout doing what we got to do to get what we gots to get........knomtalnbout na........nothing to do with trash,dirt roads,or none of tha.......personally I don't mind it....I only mind when folk use it or ask about it or any word in the Southern Dialect and are being disrespectful or stupid about it.....

Good question Isaiah....I only wish folk that Ain't from the South would stop speaking for us like they are us........

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MississippiRed said:
Man here it is.....the term Dirty South came from a song....that's right a song...not from the Man , not as a marketing strategy, not to describe the rural South but a song........by a cat named Cool Breeze he was on a track with GOODIE MOB I'm gonna see if I still have the CD so I can post the lyrics ...and the name stuck.....that's where it came from.....before that though we was always dutty........Dirty being a term to describe a person that's out to get theirs no matter what it take....they Dirty......before my reincarnation as Mississippi Red when I started trying...trying to live right I was Dirty Red.....I got a potna na his name is Dert....short for Derty Steve.....and as such the Derty South is bout doing what we got to do to get what we gots to get........knomtalnbout na........nothing to do with trash,dirt roads,or none of tha.......personally I don't mind it....I only mind when folk use it or ask about it or any word in the Southern Dialect and are being disrespectful or stupid about it.....

Good question Isaiah....I only wish folk that Ain't from the South would stop speaking for us like they are us........

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hey brother Red,

I got a potna in los angeles from junior high school...he was a local dj that I used to do "shotgun parties" with back in the 70s...he now owns a studio equipment rental company in hollywood...guess what we called him...."Dirt"...see bruh...the more some of these kids claim to know...the more they prove the little they know...
 

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