Black Christians : THE DIALOGUE WITH JOB...The Aramean; In Other Words...

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  1. Chevron Dove

    Chevron Dove Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    THE DIALOGUE WITH JOB...The Aramean; In Other Words...
    Can We Overcome the Mark? [part IV]


    AGAIN there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves
    before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before
    the LORD.

    And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan
    answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from
    walking up and down in it.
    JOB 2:1-2 [also, JOB 1:6-7].

    Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the
    wiles of the devil.
    EPHESIANS 6:11.​

    THE ARMOUR OF GOD; ...In Other Words...
    It was because of the shout against Jesus that has led people to become suppressed under the Roman Empire then and now that we must consider. In other words, because all major religions eventually fell under the dominion of the Latin based Roman government in the western world, even Christianity, all higher forms of education cannot be attained to the highest level unless it can be attained through the Roman government. In other words, even the Bible including the Book of Revelations cannot be fully understood unless a decent education in Language Arts and etc. has been achieved first. In other words, the Mark of the Beast would be totally insufficient because it only offers a percentage of knowledge and not the whole. Deception. But in order to overcome the very Mark of the Beast would it not be expedient to pick up the very Covenant of God and search to discover the other part of knowledge that was discarded by the beast? Would this not be the whole armour of God, THE OLD AND THE NEW TESTAMENTS, the very Word of God? If we so choose could we not gain a full understanding of the true will of God Almighty from the very Covenant used to set up the beast? Will we not find the very source of the power of the beast? The victory over the system comes from refraining from being apart of it. In other words, be in the world but not of it. By what other means can we get the victory over the Mark of the beast, his image, his name and his number, the system that enslaved us? Does the Bible reveal to us how to do that? What if we don’t care to look and find the answer? Passiveness. Conformity. Lukewarm. Neutrality. Laissez Faire.

    How can a government separate from their foundation on the basis of human rights and at the same time write a law that legalizes Chattel Slavery and be called just? How can a government outlaw the Covenant to be apart of their educational system and deny the former Chattel Slaves funding to learn the very Covenant for which they were enslaved and be called just? Were they not benefactors of such blasphemy? Persecution. Suppression. Oppression. Exploitation--Prison Systems to house the fruits of ignorance? But what if the choice still remains to be in agreement with the beast of whom also knows the will of God and yet, they still separated from him? How do we separate ourselves from the beast and separate from others that agree with the beast? In other words, for those who do not separate from the beast will their be a penalty? The organizers of the Roman Empire knew how to channel Black support to their advantage long before they formed because it was an ancient and repetitive disposition that Black people possessed and that was self hatred and they relied upon this to form their system. We were all born in sin and must come out of it on a person-by-person basis. White Supremacy cannot survive without Black Support; The source of power of the beast. Epiphany? Revelation? Therefore, the Creator God put a stumbling block in the pathway of the representative government of the Great Adversary and that was ‘a cut off time’ which was set for AD 2012 based upon the prophet Daniel in order to block the kind of people who support this system from having a basis to enter into heaven
    [DANIEL 7:1, 25 & 12:7, 9; also ST MATTHEW 2:7-10; THE STAR & Chapter 24].

    We cannot serve two masters, either we will love the one and hate the other? So the Creator God has made sure to make a division to protect the persecuted for his sake and to ultimately protect the good works of his own precious son who was sacrificed on the cross under the Roman Empire system that allowed for this to happen. Jesus was Crucified during the Saturnalia Festival, a human sacrifice ritual. The Roman officials were there and did not intervene. Instead they oversaw the execution. They collected taxes from their subjects for years and had gotten support from the masses, therefore as it was in the past, it continues up to this day, but the time of judgment has been determined. Therefore, hasn’t that time of election already passed? If the deadline for end time world judgment can be believed then won’t the damage of the Great Adversary be complete by that time? Will this great powerful government not have went out before the time of the Biblical cut off with the support of the majority of God’s Chosen people to commit human atrocities; Human Sacrifices? To sign on with the Devil against God Almighty would be to forfeit inherited rights; Human Rights. It would be a judgment without mixture, no matter the race, religion, kindred or state of being. If a former slave signs on with the system that still enslaved others then would not that person become a benefactor above those still suppressed under the law? And what if that same system writes another law that causes him to be re-enslaved then has he not forfeited his human rights under that law? The Fugitive Slave Law. The Draft Law. The Law of indebt ness. The Kingdom of God would be an opportunity lost forever. God Almighty did not waste his own son’s very life just to have Rome win over and over again. The ultimate pivot point for which Christianity rest upon are to do unto others as we would have them to do unto us and to put no other god before God the Creator. It would be a natural law of human rights protection, for humanity, the will of the living God of which Jesus proved with his very life that was not regarded by the system nor the masses. The shout went out the wrong way. How can anyone be in the LORD God’s graces for the support of such a government? How can anyone escape judgment and be in agreement with the very government that separated from his son who died so that we might not agree with such a system? He already died for that sin and he will not go through that again. But about 6000 years ago, the Creator God laid out a plan, a perfect plan, of Redemption, at that time and was it not complete? Therefore, for those who believe in God Almighty, should not hope still remain? Though the road may be narrow, nevertheless, He has a plan even for this day.

    Back in the days of Job and hundreds of years before the time of the Roman Empire, Satan had a dialogue with Job and told him that God’s ways were too hard but, Job proved him wrong. Job’s friends told him that he had gotten sick and that he was cursed because he had wasted his time trying to help those ‘trifling and pathetic Blacks; Hamites-Sabeans’ and Job resisted this racist persecution against Cush Ham coming from them. And Satan told the LORD God that he would ‘go throughout the earth’ to seek and devour whomever he could. Why? What possibly could the Great Adversary gain from doing this? Could he be trying to prove before the big day of Judgment that God’s Chosen people would go against the government of God in favor of his system of White Supremacy? Could he have deceived the very elect of God Almighty? Was that not Eve’s argument, that she was deceived and thus was the reason why she ate from the tree? She cried, ‘Deception!’--And yet, did she not die as she was told she would if she rebelled against her Creator? The LORD God set up a wall to protect himself. And Enmity is that wall. Death is that wall. Slavery is that wall. The Slave Ship Era is that wall. The Prison System is that wall. Jesus swore on a deadline. That is the wall. Enmity is history. The Truth. A White Supremacist system will never be apart of God’s Kingdom. Satan and his host were cast out. God put enmity between Satan’s seed and himself and that was his son. Hostility.


    Be sober, be vigilant: because your aversary the devil, as a roaring lion,
    walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 1PETER 5:8

    And the third angel followed them, sayiing with a loud voice, If any man
    worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in the forehead, or in
    his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is
    poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; ...
    REVELATION 14: 9-10

    And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed
    and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
    GENESIS 3:15.​


    The Fugitive Slave Law or Fugitive Slave Act was passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 1850, as part of the Compromise of 1850...The earlier Fugitive Slave Act of 1793 was a Federal law which was written…It sought to force the authorities in free states to return fugitive slaves to their masters.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850

    The Fugitive Slave Act was part of the group of laws referred to as the "Compromise of 1850." In this compromise, the antislavery advocates gained the admission of California as a free state,…
    http://www.nationalcenter.org/FugitiveSlaveAct.html

    Conscription in the United States (also called compulsory military service or the draft) has been employed several times, usually during war but also during the nominal peace of the Cold War. The United States discontinued the draft in 1973, moving to an all-volunteer military force, thus there is no mandatory conscription. However, the Selective Service System remains in place as a contingency plan; men between the ages of 18 and 25 are required to register so that a draft can be readily resumed if needed.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States

    The Selective Service System wants you to know that the requirement to register for the military draft did not go away with the end of the Vietnam War. Under the law, …

    Since there is no draft currently in effect, and men are not being classified for service, disabled men, clergymen, and men who believe themselves to be conscientiously opposed to war must also register.
    Men who do not register could be prosecuted and, if convicted, …and/or serve up to five years in prison. …eligible for:

    …U.S. Citizenship - if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.
    http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/defenseandsecurity/a/draftreg.htm
     
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    You know, although I'm not an atheist, I'm not particularly religious either. However, I must stress again that I truly appreciate your concerted effort to practicalize and bring empowerment and justice through the medium of Christianity. I maintain that, ideally, religion SHOULD be a unique celebration of Universal Law/Truth; instead, most of it has been used to control, destroy, and oppress----especially Black people (Black women in particular); so, it's refreshing to see attempts to move in the opposite direction....much appreciated!




     
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    Thank you!

    I do agree. Most religions have been used to badger and beat people into submission, especially Black people. You made me realize the importance of even the account of Job because he was written to be specifically of another culture and origin. And this brings to mind Darius and others who practiced other religions even and yet, the universal message of peace and universal human rights becomes the mode that brought people together.
     
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