Black Spirituality Religion : ?The Devil?

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  1. Fine1952

    Fine1952 Happy Winter Solstice MEMBER

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    The topic on the personification of who - what and where the Devil "is" has always clouded the minds of the masses.

    Have you ever considered that this so-Called entity has always lived (eg. devil spelled backwards) in the spirit of mankind in and out of time?

    Have you ever thought that evil exists in men and the more men that are the deadlier the force of evil?

    The rub is that many will superstitiously and continually search the heavens/skies for an answer.

    Have they considered searching for the "real" origin of how the devil came into being thereby taking a more logical approach to this concept?

    One person performing an evil deed "is" certainly a cruel thing, yet many people practicing evil actions yields a far greater impact upon any one targeted cultures or nation of people.

    Some, however, will take the approach that a "Living God" in the sky is in control -- while praying, hoping and believing that this ideal will personally resolve the ranting and raving Devil/Satan/Lucifer. How did that go?

    The original concept of Satan/The Devil/Lucifer evolved out of Set from the Osirian Drama originally known as the Ausarian Drama.
    Source: Set 2 Satan

    Devil (noun) -- represented in the Jewish religion and the "offshoot sister" religion of Christianity as the tempter of humankind, the leader of all apostate angels, and the ruler of hell —usually used with the —often used as an interjection, an intensive, or a generalized term of abuse.

    evil spirit, satan, wicked, cruel are other descriptions attached to this so-Called entity.

    origin -- Middle English devel, from Old English dēofol, from Late Latin diabolus, from Greek diabolos, literally, slanderer, from diaballein to throw across, slander, from dia- + ballein to throw; probably akin to Sanskrit gurate he lifts up. Old English dēofol (related to Dutch duivel and German Teufel), via late Latin from Greek diabolos 'accuser, slanderer' (used in the Septuagint to translate Hebrew śāṭān 'Satan'), from diaballein 'to slander', from dia 'across' + ballein 'to throw'.Oxford Dictionary
     
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    As happened with KMT deities from dynasty to dynasty, Set ended up taking on many of the god of evil characteristics formerly associated with Apep. When you see images of Apep, portrayed as a snake, it becomes crystal clear how Apep became Set became Satan:

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    And, note, the reason the bible associates Satan with a serpent in its first book [Genesis chapter 3] and last [Revelation 20:2] derives from the KMT myth of Apep the snake swallowing Ra the sun every day at sundown. As a matter of fact, the King James version of the bible even slips up and describes God exactly as KMT described Ra --- as a winged sun disc:

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    Malachi 4:2 "But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall."
    Needless to say, you ain't never gonna hear about any of this during Sunday morning worship service, even though it should now be obvious why Christianity changed its Sabbath from the 7th day to the Day of the Unconquerable Sun.

    For those who are really into, as Jesus put it, overcoming evil with good, it is worthwhile to study the KMT text "Book of Overcoming Apep" --- keeping in mind that Apep is Set is Satan. This requires a deep, deep understanding of myth and symbolism. But, as a hint, think about the title Son Of God and how it could have derived from the KMT myths of Horus the son of Ra. And, you also might want to merge all that with the six times in the New Testament where it is explained that the purpose of the gospel of Jesus, the Christ, the Son of God, is to enable men to become sons of God:

    http://www.masseiana.org/book_of_apep.htm
     
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    I spoke in reference to Satan "knowing" that the origin is connected to Set ---the brother of Au Sar and Uncle of Horus.

    The snakes, however, go into a whole different topic. Because you see it was the Siblys who worshiped the GODDESS and were so closely related to this reptile -- before Apep, Satan, the bible or Christianity ever came into existence.

    As a source, the "incredible" biblical text is not an historical document, therefore its use as "proof" or evidence inside any logical discourse is questionable to say the least. It is not a talisman, it is not a good luck charm and it certainly is not the "Word" of God since this Deity came much later in the history of Spirituality.

    You might want to read:

    The African Origin of Civilization by Cheikh Anta Diop
    When God Was A Woman by Merlin Stone
    The Sibyls by Vivian Hunter Hindrew
    The Destruction of Black Civilization by Dr. Chancellor Williams
    Egypt, Revisited by Dr. Ivan Van Sertima
    The Africans Who Wrote The Bible by Dr. Nana Banchie (Alex) Darkwah
    When Rocks Cry Out by Horace Butler

    Wisdom is found in more than one well-documented source.

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    KMT myths are not consistent. They vary, even geneaologies vary, between dynasties and between centers of influence. This doesn't mean that there is not much to be learned, from the myths of KMT. It just means that one should have just as much scepticism when studying KMT myths as when studying the bible

    A Master teaches from his lips to the ears of his disciples. That is the most accurate Way to learn the Original Truth. But, today, we do not have the option of hearing from the lips of Heru, or the Buddha, or Jesus. Instead, we learn what we can from books such as the ones you listed, or the Bible, or the Metu Neter, or the Book of Overcoming Apep, and others.

    But, books over time get copied and recopied, translated and retranslated, interpreted and reinterpreted, and in some cases outright forged, until wise Seekers of the Original Truth must concede that books --- regardless of what books you study --- alone cannot reveal the whole and unaltered Original Truth.

    The bible receives a lot of criticism because of this dynamic. But, the same is true for all books which purport to represent Wisdom from centuries or millenia ago.

    What we need is a Way Guide, a Comforter, a Spirit of Truth, to teach us all things, to bring us into remembrance of the Original Truth as first spoken from the lips of the Master. In that Way, we study to show ourselves approved unto God, rightly dividing the word of truth, proving all things, and holding fast that which is good.

    What I perceive is that the same message lies at the root of myths about Heru vs. Set, Ra vs. Apep, and Jesus vs. Satan. That message involves the Way a man overcomes his misperception that he is a son of Man to Know Self as a son of God.

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    In The Book Of Coming Forth By Day by Dr. Muata Ashby -- the names change -- yet the concept remains the same

    The most important theme was: MYTH - RITUAL - MYSTICISM

    GREAT TRINITY OF EGYPT

    NUN MEHURT NENERDJER
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    ATUM
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    RA
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    AMUN PTAH
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    MUT ASAR SEKHMET
    ASET
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    KHONSU HERU NEFERTEM

    pages: 36, 73

    The biblical text is diluted and mimic-ed. These text listed below predate the biblical text by thousands of years:

    1. Annals of Nebuchadnezzar II
    2. The Annals of Sargon II
    3. The Annals of Shalmaneser III
    4. The Annals of Sennacherib
    5. The Annals of Tiglath-Pileser III
    6. The Arad Ostraca
    7. The Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser III
    8. The Book of Coming Forth Into the Light
    9. The Code of Hammurabi
    10. Cycle of Songs in Honor of Senwosre
    11. The Cylinder of Cyrus
    12. The Diary of Wen-Amon
    13. The Egyptian Tale of Two Brothers
    14. The El Amarna Letters
    15. The Enuma Elish
    16. The Gezer Almanac
    17. The Gilgamesh Tales
    18. The Hittite Code
    19. The Hymn of Aton
    20. Instruction of Amenemipet son of Kanakht
    21. The Karatepe Inscription
    22. The Mari Prophecies
    23. The Middle Assyrian Code
    24. The Lachlish Letters
    25. The Lament for Ur
    26. The Lamentations of Kwaku Pra Sebe
    27. Papyrus Chester Beatty IV
    28. The Papyrus Harris 500
    29. The Siloam Inscription
    30. The Stele of Merneptah
    31. The Stele of Mesha
    32. The Story of Aqhat
    33. The Story of Anubis and Bata
    34. The Story of Keret
    35. The Teachings of Ahiqar
    36. The Teachings of Am-en-ern-ope
    37. The Teachings of Ptah-Hotep
    38. The Yavne-Yam Inscription

     
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