Black People Politics : The Black Radical Tradition

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    That speaker said, "Zion is Bourgeois lies." Woops there it is! Communistic speak. Truth is what sets us free.

    Eldridge Cleaver has been through the fire and came out with truth and wisdom. He walked the the coals of anger and blame, then journeyed through the world to see with his own eyes. He does not stand up with speakers looking to magnify their personal additions and then come up with a sum to sell others on Communism.

    It was said out of chaos comes clarity? No. Nothing comes out of chaos except bewilderment and ruin.

    There has to be intelligent evidence in a reality for compare contrast -- evaluation. Zion being defined is the "pure in heart" and is held in reserve for those who love all beautiful good things and people. It cannot exist in a wicked world. However, wherever the faithful are gathered, there is a branch of Zion.
     
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    From willa's very first post her only intent has been to derail this thread with absolute falsehoods, reductive fallacies and sophomoric circular logic presented as her own personal op-ed pieces.
    Whether she likes it or not the black radical tradition IS a tradition that is at the very least semi-socialist for various reasons but most importantly because that is how we as a people have survived in this insane white world; by the basic premise of a sharing and a shared economy among ourselves and a set of cultural values that probably dates all the way back to our homeland.
    If she does not like the philosophy why is she here disrupting and derailing? Earlier in the thread I even pointed out she would be welcomed to post ANY authors or speakers she feels should be considered. And what have we gotten in return? More of her own personal problem about a socio-economic philosophy she knows little to nothing about all the way up to her last post.

    I'm calling on the mods to put a stop to her trolling in the attempt to derail this thread.
     
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    use the 'ignore' feature....
     
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    I do not censor anyone. Never have and never will because it narrows the view.
    However that does not mean that a censure of a member (including myself) should be out of the question.
     
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    I love the man Eldridge Cleaver. He is every bit like the legend Phoenix who burned with a fire and then rose from the ashes alive, renewed, to lead us with the enlightenment that transcends to our time, that speaks with the authority of having scouted the ends of the earth, seen and heard and then returned with a report to rise above the speeches whose agenda is wild, founded on flailing vengeance. Those people are the ones who are being exploited themselves by the Communist vendor or are the Communist vendor.

    Cleaver asked himself, why he was preserved when his friends were killed beside him. Why him? If you listen to the phoenix of Eldridge Cleaver with your heart and intellect, you will hear to consider the wisdom he was meant to bring us through experience, not popularity, not the loudest voice, but with knowing having learned
    by going places and meeting the world in ways we never will.

    Please listen to Eldridge Cleaver 1981 speech all the way through. It has the quality of magnificence.
     
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    I listen to it before you gave a link. Yeh, I watched it......pretty disgusting wasn't it. Seeing a man stoop so low before a group of people that only 3 years before wouldn't even acknowledge him or any of his race (BYU=LDS. i.e.. Mormons) was just sickening. Watching him put the shine on for a bunch of people that many within the Christian faith don't even consider Christian but a cult was enough for me to reach for the antacid tablets. Anything else I have to say about his boot licking is unprintable in this forum. Stands to reason he your boy willa, you're welcome to him.

    As the powers to be apparently have decided that it's perfectly okay for you to continue to disrespect and hi-jack this thread, it's now all yours.
     
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    Why thank you ogoun. Have you noticed at the bottom of each post is a Reply button? That is an invitation to be part of a forum debate or agreement. It is followed by a Post Reply button. Another invitation.

    So Cleaver became a mormon, huh? I wouldn't prevent it. To each his own. How far does freedom go? In the things you post, not so far. Also I don't make my post personally against you. It's what you are trying to sell -- Communism. And Communism has to be able to justify it's self. It can't. Oh yes there is a lot of promises from Communist elites on how much better for the general people, and the hungry people with out much. But time after time the general people with communism starve along side the poor.

    Let's take a look at Venezuela Democratic Socialists/Communist government. The people are rioting on the streets now...because they are starving! Three days ago, Mariana Gonstead news media from there said, "Venezuela is a house on fire!" She said Venezuela used to be like America, but after twenty years of Democratic Socialism/Communism there was stagnation and the people who aren't rioting are evacuating, running becoming refugees themselves to other places. This was an oil rich country.
    That is what Democratic Socialism/Communism does. The people voted out freedom for organized control of their loved land and people.
     
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