Black Spirituality Religion : The Biggest Dividing Factor

[godsmantru]

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[rasembi aunk]

Religion in its structure was supposed to be nothing but a holding mechanism until the individual could be spiritually developed. There of course was an exoteric and esoteric aspect for those less spiritually developed and those more spiritually developed. I agree that the intervention of the European upon our people, land and culture had a very very large impact. For it was with the invasions that the priesthood fled Kemet scattering to the four winds. Each of them depending upon what stage of growth or knowledge they were in, took what they had and set up where they were...as such we see various aspects of Kemetian knowledge and spiritual concepts in many places with many names.

Once the schools were run down upon as a means of stamping out the light of what our ancestors were doing, students and teachers began to flee with what they had, whether complete or incomplete. Their attempt to preserve what they had is the manifestation of all these religions. The European intervention upon them is the "controlling factor and misrepresentation of them by virtue of them controlling the "written word" through advent of the printing press.

Once the European got his hands upon it we began to see divisions of it based upon their interpretation of it and the politics that were in place. Unfortunately this is what we now follow. Their control of the printing press allowed them to not only write themselves into history where they were not but it allowed them to add the false historical and cultural elements that would serve as a controlling factor upon our people minds and hearts.

This makes me think of the "Star Wars" movies where The Sith Lords Darth Sidious and Darth Vader travelled the universe trying to stamp out all of the Jedi Knights. The Jedi were once a unified force(religion)each one having an affinity to a specific power just like the priests in kemet having an affinity to a certain deity.

 

[thePreacher]

Now the only way I can conceive of a Supreme Being leaving no clear evidence of anything what so ever is if we are dealing with a God of confusion or something made up by those who control the written word.

The Divine, by definition, can not be measured by the physical senses. If God could be reduced to an object to our subject, so that we could measure Its existence, then, that God, by definition, could not be Omnipotent, Omnescient, and Omnipresent.

Those who predicate their search for God with a firm conviction that they will only believe what they can measure with their physical senses will find either no God or a God made in the image of their own mortal, physical, body -- complete with mortal emotions such as hate, envy, jealousy, rage, racism, etc.

Faith is sneered at by many these days. And, this is perfectly understandable considering the spiritual ignorance being passed off as faith by the masses of Christians, Muslims, and Jews. But, the message to be found in older systems is that All is manifest from that which can not be seen. Which means, interesting enough, that we live in a Matrix -- a prison of the mind. _EVERYTHING_ that we _think_ we have physical evidence of is, in truth, only a shadow of the real world. The real world can not be seen with mortal eyes because it was not made with mortal hands.

What Is The Matrix?​

So, what evidence do we have of this real, but unseen world? There is no physical evidence. Higher mathematics provides clues. But beyond that there is only faith, aka intuition. Faith is the evidence of things not seen -- just as is stated in that bible which you so hate and despise.

This, by the way, turns out to be 100% syncretic with subatomic physics whereby theroretical physicists have discovered that, when you look deep enough into a thing, into any thing, what you find is is no-thing -- ergo, no matter, only energy -- only the One Unitive Divine Consciousness from which all that is is manifest.

This universal truth is implicit in the first three laws of the Kybalion. Those willing to read with their Third Eye can even find it hidden in the bible:

Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made by things which do appear.​

But, therein lies your dilemma. Keita. I can not tell you about the Matrix. No one can. You will never be able to find physical proof of it. You have to "see" it for yourself.

 

[hiphopolx]

The Divine, by definition, can not be measured by the physical senses. If God could be reduced to an object to our subject, so that we could measure Its existence, then, that God, by definition, could not be Omnipotent, Omnescient, and Omnipresent.

Those who predicate their search for God with a firm conviction that they will only believe what they can measure with their physical senses will find either no God or a God made in the image of their own mortal, physical, body -- complete with mortal emotions such as hate, envy, jealousy, rage, racism, etc.

Faith is sneered at by many these days. And, this is perfectly understandable considering the spiritual ignorance being passed off as faith by the masses of Christians, Muslims, and Jews. But, the message to be found in older systems is that All is manifest from that which can not be seen. Which means, interesting enough, that we live in a Matrix -- a prison of the mind. _EVERYTHING_ that we _think_ we have physical evidence of is, in truth, only a shadow of the real world. The real world can not be seen with mortal eyes because it was not made with mortal hands.

What Is The Matrix?​

So, what evidence do we have of this real, but unseen world? There is no physical evidence. Higher mathematics provides clues. But beyond that there is only faith, aka intuition. Faith is the evidence of things not seen -- just as is stated in that bible which you so hate and despise.

This, by the way, turns out to be 100% syncretic with subatomic physics whereby theroretical physicists have discovered that, when you look deep enough into a thing, into any thing, what you find is is no-thing -- ergo, no matter, only energy -- only the One Unitive Divine Consciousness from which all that is is manifest.

This universal truth is implicit in the first three laws of the Kybalion. Those willing to read with their Third Eye can even find it hidden in the bible:

Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made by things which do appear.​

But, therein lies your dilemma. Keita. I can not tell you about the Matrix. No one can. You will never be able to find physical proof of it. You have to "see" it for yourself.

Shouldn't we have some kind of universal foundation? How will things/beings unify without some kind of foundation? Doesn't knowing thy Self provide us with physical proof?

 

[thePreacher]

Shouldn't we have some kind of universal foundation? How will things/beings unify without some kind of foundation? Doesn't knowing thy Self provide us with physical proof?

Some teach, in this age, that the Self is inextricably bound to the flesh. But, to think that is to infer that the Self is lacking something which must be provided by the flesh. If that were true, the Self would not, could not, be divine.

You have to decide --- are you a human or a divine being?

The physical is temporal. It changes, it grows, it decays, it dies. But, the Self is Eternal. The Self does not need the body. The Self existed prior to the body and will exist after the body.

If we truly know Self, we know It is not physical. If we know Self is not physical, we know God is not physical, for I and my Father are One.

When you have lifted up the son of man, which is to say, when you rise above the perception that this body [son of man] is I, then you shall know that I [Self] am he [son of God].

Jesus sweating drops like blood in the garden. Paul bringing his body under subjection. Arjuna using his mighty arms to fight against the fierce enemy that is selfish desire. The Vision of Hermes and Poimandres. These are all myths describing the ascent of man from association with the physical to association with the Self.

Excerpt from Poimandres: The Vision of Hermes
"Hermes, in search for divine truth, found himself seeking solitude in a rocky and desolate place. He came to a place of rest and gave himself over to meditation. Following the secret instructions of the Temple, he gradually freed his higher consciousness from the bondage of his bodily senses; And, thus released, his divine nature revealed to him the mysteries of the transcendental spheres."​