Black People : The American Dream,The Black Man Denied

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  1. HODEE

    HODEE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    When all the immigrants came from Europe. They came because they wanted to get away from a horrible process of religious persecution. They came in groves and for other reasons too.

    The American Dream.

    That dream was told the world over. That you could come to this place, own slaves. It was said that you can become someone and have all you desire if you work hard, apply yourself and obey the laws.

    The news spread that the Indians were defeated and the land was open for the taking by any Anglo- European.

    The story as it was told is that this land was fertile, vast and had game. It was told. The land contained enough riches that could sustain a nation for ever. So all of the crooks, lemmings and dogs came over and took as they pleased.

    They fought among themselves but over all they maintained the Negro to a status so that the American Dream could be realized.

    Those immigrants brought all of their knowledge, barley hops, grain, trades and fancy dress. But didn’t have the back–bone to build this nation.

    So from the blood and on the backs of African Americans this nation grew.

    The dream has been kept from the African American.

    The hope has been denied that one day, we will live in a healthy environment. That we will be able to grow and prosper, without prejudice, and not be judged by those who we didn’t judge but served because they said that was the way it had to be.

    I am so glad Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves. I am so glad the south was so pig headed and ignored his request to return to the union.

    Today I stand and look out over the skies and see endless possibilities for this earth and this nation if those who have now obtained their dream move out of the way, and stop blocking the progress of blacks in America from achieving some of the same.

    I am certain we will obtain that dream, and that we can build and make a decent living. Finally and once again putting our back and effort into something that will benefit us. Americans don't understand us, but they will see the uniqueness of us and this I am afraid is their fear. Once done. Then they can call this a great nation.

    All we want is that promise, that dream we know we were denied. A fair shake, equal justice.

    Because if it ever came down to us taking what we truly deserve. It won't be much of a dream for many. Or for ourselves. So from this day on, each and everyone that reads this. Promise and dedicate yourself. Go out make a change for yourself. Get. A part of that dream. We helped their ancestors obtain.
     
  2. KWABENA

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    We should not NEED an American Dream! The Amerikkkan Dream would not be as pleasant if it wasn't for us and internationals chipping in!

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  3. Prizefighter16

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    The american dream is too simple

    Life
    Liberty
    The pursuit of happiness (property)


    Heaven Yeah we been kept from it...LIfe....i mean for a time we weren't considered human beings... Liberty...yeah whatever, lets not get into that....and the pursuit of happiness(property), we used to be treated like property...

    But i do know one thing...if anyone is entitled to it...it's us, for all the crap we did to help build it...So the dream should be GIVEN to me....not a struggle for me to catch it. hmmmph, too late...i don't want the crap anyway

    Peace out
     
  4. Duchesse

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    The American Dream is Yours for the Taking

    When my mother first arrived in the North, in l953, she was 18 years old. As a child I remember her telling us stories. She said that she remembered watching the Jews who sold fruits, vegetables, fish and other goods in an open market. She remembered and visually depicted a man who sold pencils for 2 cents(U.S. pennies)! Sometimes we would all laugh at how she described it because she said she didn't know how he made it.Only God knows how much he made a day, but everyday he was there. She described how cold the weather was and how many of them did not even have on proper clothing to fend off the cold. How their fingers were red and fat like sausage from exposure but how they were there everyday to sell their goods and save those pennies.

    All of this is to say that anyone can do the same thing. Blacks in America especially have more opportunity than any other Blacks in the world. We are already rich by many standards in other countries. We can rent an apartment with a refrigerator, stove, and indooor plumbing without giving it a thought. Food is not an issue either. If things are not going the way we want it to go. We have to take a look at what we are doing. With education, hardwork, persistence, and SAVING you too can live the American dream.

    If your can't save 10% of your salary each year, greatness is not in you.
     
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    You shouldn't expect things to be given to you. Go out into the world, work hard and earn the things you want. Life is a struggle for almost everyone.
     
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    your opinion is well noted...but not everyone with a family can save 10% of their yearly income due to circumstances beyond their control such as medical bills, school tuition, etc...but according to you, greatness is not in them...it kills me how people on this site have opinions about this and about that, but have no REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE to back it up... :sleep:

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    Education and hard work are all well and fine if your skin color is WHITE in this country. If you're a black man or woman, unless you're willing to be a kiss-*** to whites for the rest of your working days, the American Dream must be sought through other more 'independent' means, such as entreprenurialship, investing, and (as was stated here), saving.

    There are millions of blacks in this country who are doing exactly what this culture promotes: working hard, getting an education, etc. and are still ending up unemployed or on the bottom of the Corporate ladder. America is not fair at all, and those that continously tote the "All it takes is hard work," line never seem to take into account racism and the fact that many people won't let you in the door if you're black. And if they let you in the door, you better believe they will make sure you stay in your place. So you just can't depend on always moving up in a 9 to 5. You've got to depend on your own creativity, financial resources, etc. to attain the success you desire.
     
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    I agree with you whole heartedly there.

    Too often as AfroAmericans we have a "victim" mentality.

    It used to piss me off when I heard racists and conservatives say this about us, but the older I get the more I realize how true it is.


    Black politicians stand by helplessly and allow flesh and blood white politicians to pass laws that illeffect our community.

    Instead of taking control over our neighborhoods politically and economically, we allow whites in government to bring in people to take advantage of us, funnel the money out, and imprison an entire generation of our young men.

    We're almost always the victim, rarely taking control of the situation and drawing a line.
    We can do the same thing other people in this country do if we unite and put our minds to it.
     
  9. Duchesse

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    I have REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE to back it up. Without going into too much detail. I came from a "dysfunctional" family, my father was an alcoholic :drink: , woman beater :playball: . I was a teenage unwed, welfare mother. I knew I had to make good. I used the government like they used us. I knew that my economic status entitled me to all the educational grants offered and I took them. I studied hard and received a degree. I worked, I SAVED, ALWAYS, even when I was on welfare. Savings is a habit I learned from my mother and it never left me. Save change, pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters. You have to SAVE to invest. Rich people become rich from SAVING FIRST, and then INVESTING that savings. No one is going to GIVE you anything, you have to use your God given brain.

    I repeat, IF YOU CAN'T SAVE 10% of your salary each year, come hell or high water, GREATNESS IS NOT IN YOU!!
     
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    so you've always saved 10% of your annual salary....come hell or high water?
    or did welfare help you out with that?

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