Chief Elder Osiris : The Afrikan People

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  1. Chief Elder Osiris

    Chief Elder Osiris Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Hoteph My Beloved Sisters and Brothers:

    You know my dear beloved, if I should live to be a hundred years on this
    planet call earth, what I see and hear of the people call themselves
    Afrikan, give me no encouragement that the life we live now and the mind we
    operate under now, will not have changed back to the mind and life of the
    Afrikan proper.

    Maybe I am looking in the wrong places and listening to the wrong people but
    what I hear and what I see, seem to be the sentiment of those people call
    themselves Afrikans and what I see and hear coming from a people call
    themselves Afrikans are things such as a Afrikan people who worship the
    ground the Christian vicar walk upon, a pope that represent a religion used
    to subdue , enslave and conquer a whole Nation of people call Afrikan.

    If it is not the white man religion it is the Arab religion and there are
    even some Afrikans that subscribe to the religion Judaism and all other
    substratum religion that has not natural connection to the mental concept of
    God, Universe and Being, which our Ancient Afrikan Ancestors left to the
    Afrikan.

    We were yelling for a Black Pope as if some heavenly magic would take place
    that will change the mental and physical condition of the Afrikan people, a
    condition now hold the Afrikan in captivity, suffering the poverty of Life
    which prevent the Afrikan from enjoying life natural attributes, which are
    peace, joy, justice, a Healthy life, abundance of food and freedom and
    independence that give the Right to the mental action of free choice with an
    uninhibited will to do what come natural, in order to self preserve the
    Afrikan life.

    So I ask, is it that the Afrikan no longer control the Afrikan mind and from
    such lost of control, prevent us from desiring to know the True life of the
    Afrikan, before we became mental prisoners, now having no desire to know the
    procedure our Ancient Afrikan Ancestors used to acknowledge God, the
    Universe and the Afrikan relationship to those entities?

    Why is it that the Afrikan seem to have a compassionate need to placate to
    people that have proven that they are a liar and deceivers to the Afrikan
    people and those people will do all that they can to keep the Afrikan
    submissive to their way of believing and away from ever again to know the
    True life of the Afrikan proper?

    Why, when the Afrikan look and see the way and action of a known Afrikan
    oppressor, that defy and disrespect the Afrikan people in the field of
    Divine jester, we develop a superficial urge to create an Afrikan mental and
    Theological structure that will imitate the religion of the oppressors of
    Afrikan people.

    Are we Afrikans so far removed from the Truth to know that a lie is a lie,
    regardless of how it present its descriptive action to the Afrikan.

    The Afrikan seem so fixated on being oppressed and to have a urge to mimic
    the oppressors in what ever they do.

    The Afrikan people no longer desire to be creative, using the mental process
    of original thinking, so that such thinking will benefit the Afrikan people
    and to do so without letting the oppressors religion cause the Afrikan to
    feel guilty from being natural and original again.

    Case and point, all during the Catholic Church ritual in presenting to the
    world its next liar and deceiver to the world, occupying the highest seat in
    the Catholic dominion, the Pope, we were running along craving for an
    Afrikan pope and shouting to the world that there have been three other
    Black popes that reign under the Catholic deceiving structure.

    I say, even so, the religious foundation did not change and obvious such
    presence of those Afrikans participation in advancing the lie about God, did
    not benefit the Afrikan people to the point we today can say without a doubt
    and reservation, the Afrikan people today is better prepared to live a life
    equal to all others and that the Afrikan people is now privilege to the
    natural attributes of life, peace, Harmony Balance, Order, Joy, superb
    Health, Justice, Freedom, Independence, right to uninhibited Choice, whose
    Will is honored, without interference to influence the choices made in Life,
    such Mental Freedom is deserving to the Afrikan People, yet we are without.

    The Afrikan people center all of our debate around what the oppressors of
    Afrikan people have so constructed and instructed to be the basic foundation
    upon which all Life must stand and also present the structure for which we
    must attempt to fashion the Afrikan life and the Afrikan people rebel not
    against such brazen nerve of confidence coming from the oppressors as they
    succeed in persuading the Afrikan people to entrust the Afrikan life into
    their hand.

    The Afrikan people, a people who no longer know from whence we come and
    apparently can care less to where we are being led, which is away from the
    gods of our Ancient Afrikan Ancestors and should we open the Afrikan inner
    eye we will be able to see what has happen to the Afrikan people and God
    most certainly did not have a thing to do with this condition the Afrikan
    people now suffer and now we say, it is all God will and assume the mind of
    the oppressors when we say, we will be in heaven very soon with Jesus and
    when we get there, we will still be crying from the devilish pain we have
    suffered and then and only then will Jesus begin to not stop the pain that
    cause the tears, he only will wipe the tears away from our eyes.

    So, as the Old Man asked, What happen to the People Of Sumer, ( Afrikan
    People ) Reply, They Lost Their History And They Died!!!

    The Old Lady, Passing By A Fool And A Wise Man Arguing, She Stop and calmly
    ask, What Are Those Two Fools Arguing About!!!

    When You Know you are Correct in presenting the Truth, why debate that you
    know to be True?

    The Time Has come For The Afrikan People To abandon The Lies and Deception
    Which Now Hold The Afrikan People Mind In Captivity And Should Come To
    Realize, An Afrikan Spiritual Retreat Is What the Afrikan Is In Need Of At
    This Moment, A Reclaiming Of The Afrikan mind.


    It Is Time to Condemn the Lie and elevate The Truth!!!

    We Must Cause Trouble ( with the truth ) Until Our Liberation!!!

    It Is The Black Fool Who Say I Have Lost Nothing In Afrika!!! ( Osiris )

    I Come, I Share, You Either Accept Or Reject, I Move On.

    Completely Loving The Black Afrikan Nation

    Honor, Respect And Praise To The Honorable Marcus Garvey

    Hoteph
    Osiris
    Afrikan Spiritualist, Hierophant, Political Revolutionary
    National Chairman
    Sankofa Repatriation Movement
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    since I've stumbled upon this site I have being much grateful to know the spirit of the ancient [ALKEBULAN]people still thrives to take their rightful position in this here universe. I am enlighten and very much up lifted by your postings and the site as a whole keep spreading and shining the TRUTH we black people need it like never before PEACE!!!
     
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    Bible Origins

    Dear Chief Osirus,

    If I may be so humble as to pose the following questions to you; please know that I approach you in the Spirit of Sheba who likewise is known for her inquisitiveness and thirst for wisdom.

    1. If I understand your message, is it your position that the Bible and all of it's contents are false?

    2. If the Bible and it's parts (the Pentateuch, New Testament, Apocraphya and all unpublished manuscripts held by the Vatican) are indeed false, where did the White man get these stories from?

    It would seem to me that the Caucasian race is quite well known for it's plagurism as seen today in context of Greek philosophy and modern medicine. Furthermore, originality is hardly a character trait used to describe the Caucasian race so where and how did the Septugient put together this collection of stories mostly involving the African race? Sixty-six published books and why does the Kebra Negast verify Solomon's existence.
    For it is from the line of Solomon that Haile Selassie credited his position on the thrown of Ethiopia.

    3. In your opinion, is the Bible a partial or complete account of African history, and was it the intention of Constantine and King James to distort that history so as to mislead and enslave Africans from their relationship with the divine?

    4. If all of the Patriarchal religions are 100% false, then what is the natural and original faith of the African people?

    5. I notice you have adopted the name of Osirus, King of Kemet, Brother and Husband of Auset. It has been noted by some philosophical students that modern Christianity was birthed in Egypt from the mysteries system.
    If this contention is correct, is it not feasible for the modern African to find his way home through the path of Christianity (removing the idol worship of a white god)

    6. What say you to the claims of modern Ghanians who claim Israel as their original homeland and also claim to be the lost tribes of Israel? The Ga tribe as I discussed in another thread are known Jews, how then has their oral tradition been manipulated if Judaism is not a natural faith to the people of Africa?
     
  4. Chief Elder Osiris

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    Dear Chief Osirus,

    If I may be so humble as to pose the following questions to you; please know that I approach you in the Spirit of Sheba who likewise is known for her inquisitiveness and thirst for wisdom.

    1. If I understand your message, is it your position that the Bible and all of it's contents are false?
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    osiris

    I do not waste Time in trying to sort out the Lies from what is True in that book referred to as the bible.

    Yes that is my knowledge about what is Divinely True and what is a Profane Lie concerning the bible and my statement about the bible being not Divinely True regarding its claim to be the word of God, Remain as I have asserted it to be, a Lie, because it does not have the information needed and it does not give to Black people what we need that will cause us to become liberated from all of the false promises made in that book the bible, about it being the book that will lead you to eternal life.

    There is no half Truth and half Lie, such is what cause confusion and there is no confusion in the Divine Truth.
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    2. If the Bible and it's parts (the Pentateuch, New Testament, Apocraphya and all unpublished manuscripts held by the Vatican) are indeed false, where did the White man get these stories from?
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    osiris

    They got those Truths that was left by our Ancient first Way Ancestors from the pyramid Text and from method of recording and preserving the Divine Truth which we have long forgotten.

    So not until After our Fall away from knowing the Divine Information that caused us to be in possession of the Divine Knowledge concerning the Divine Essence, Both Universe, and of our Black Divine Selves, is when we reverted to writing what we attempted to remember of that which our Divine First Way ancestors Taught us.

    So you see, all of the devilish oppressors manuscripts and those other Ancient Jewish, Caucasian document now in possession of the Devilish Oppressors of Black People, they are just what you have so eloquently described them to be, published and unpublished recording of a Black Ancient Knowledge changed to represent the Mind of the robbers of Ancient Afrikan Information, copied from Afrikan writing as was so remembered by the Fallen Afrikans, which mean the so call Ancient Biblical and the Tara, and European, Jewish, and Arabs Religious document are no more than a perceived and misinterpretation of the Divine Information written by the Fallen Ancient Afrikan Ancestors.

    So those devilish oppressors that came to Afrika and stole for purpose to plagiarize information that was not of the Divine Quality of the Divine Truth and changed it to be recognized as their own perceived Knowledge, a knowledge flawed because the code and symbols concerning the Divine Essence, both Universe, and the Divine Being require a Divine Mind to know and Understand, which is not required to have in a Religious Setting..
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    It would seem to me that the Caucasian race is quite well known for it's plagiarism as seen today in context of Greek philosophy and modern medicine. Furthermore, originality is hardly a character trait used to describe the Caucasian race so where and how did the Septugient put together this collection of stories mostly involving the African race? Sixty-six published books and why does the Kebra Negast verify Solomon's existence.
    For it is from the line of Solomon that Haile Selassie credited his position on the thrown of Ethiopia.
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    osiris

    you started out here real well but then you deviated to imply that the devilish oppressors informing written information in the context of religion is about Black people, when there is nothing enclosed in those referred writing that benefit the Nature and will cause the Freedom of Mind to be to the advantage of Black People.

    So you see, I do not associate not one thing the Luciferian write that was and is to be served to the Liberation of the Black Afrikan Mind so how can the oppression action be of benefit to the oppressors victims?

    Sure Lucifer stole and converted our Ancient Afrikan Sacred writing which is based upon what they could remembering without having the code to know and understand the meaning of the symbolage that revealed the Divine Truth concerning the Divine Essence, Both Universe, and our Body life associated connection to that Divine Trinity that is in fact the Manifestation of the Divine Essence.

    Sure what they read of our Fallen Ancestors recordings prompted them to imagine and eventually personify those writing and ended up claiming their Religious Creation come from their own conceived ideas about God, Universe, and their being the Children of God.

    So that does not excite me nor does it faze me because I search for the Divine Mind of myself that will qualify me to know how to distinguish between a Lie and the Divine Truth and so far, my revelation tell me that the Bible lies about God, Religion recruits victims for its God, and in no way will I attempt to dignify that which has been used to destroy the Divine Mind of a once Divine Black Being, now calling themselves Human Beings, waiting on a Symbol which we know nothing about to come in the personage of a made up Jesus to save our Black Behind, when we should be doing what is necessary to cause our Body Life to be safe in this evil perverted world, now guided by that book call the bible.
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    3. In your opinion, is the Bible a partial or complete account of African history, and was it the intention of Constantine and King James to distort that history so as to mislead and enslave Africans from their relationship with the divine?
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    osiris

    By my knowledge of the Divine Essence, Both Universe and the Divine Life of Self, I know that the bible has no inference to Black people, are you aware of the Racist Prejudice that was guiding the Minds that wrote that Bible?
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    4. If all of the Patriarchal religions are 100% false, then what is the natural and original faith of the African people?
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    osiris

    There is no if and but about it, all religion is false, are you aware of how religion portray God to be?

    The Divine Being dealt not with Faith, that is a religious tenet, in Divinity there is only Knowing that which is Divinely True, No Believing, No Hoping, No Faith, only Knowing.

    Can You Understand That, Beloved?
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    5. I notice you have adopted the name of Osirus, King of Kemet, Brother and Husband of Auset. It has been noted by some philosophical students that modern Christianity was birthed in Egypt from the mysteries system.
    If this contention is correct, is it not feasible for the modern African to find his way home through the path of Christianity (removing the idol worship of a white god)
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    osiris

    No!!!

    I take on a Name to give it meaning based upon my Divine Mind that reveal to me the Divine Information given to us by our Ancient Cosmic Divine black Ancestors and Yes the Idolatry of a religious god was a part of the EGYPTAIN Religious Portfolio, but you must understand Egyptian is not the Black Divine Being and it was the Divine Black Being that was long before the coming of the so call Egyptian that was in the know of What the Divine Essence Is, the meaning and purpose of Both Universe and was well aware of the Black Divine being Self relationship to those Entities.

    Christianity has no relationship to the Theology of the Divine Being.
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    6. What say you to the claims of modern Ghanians who claim Israel as their original homeland and also claim to be the lost tribes of Israel? The Ga tribe as I discussed in another thread are known Jews, how then has their oral tradition been manipulated if Judaism is not a natural faith to the people of Africa?
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    osiris

    The present fay Afrikan, they who make claim t5o be Human Beings and embrace the Fantasy of Jesus, they are the people making all kind od an effort to be a part of Satan religion are those that serve as evidence that we did in fact lose our Divine Mind.

    Can you Understand That, Beloved?

    I share not to convert but to inform, you either accept or reject, it take nothing away from that which I divine Know, Beloved

    Be Kind To Your Self, Beloved


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  5. phynxofkemet

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    :thinking::thinking:
    First I thank you for sharing your wisdome, you give us much needed sustanence for our mind. I am not sure I completely understand all of your teachings, although a great portion of it resonates with me as truth. If I may continue this discussion with you, I'd like to divide the following in 2 sections. The first section attending to the Bible characters & the last half discussing our mental incarceration

    May I ask why you refer to Lucifer as an entity, when this term for the evil bearer of light emerges from Biblical scripture?

    If Lucifer/Satan is real, why aren't the prophets real such as Moses, Jesus & Solomon?

    Forgive me in advance for my insistence on this subject Chief Elder, but... I do not understand the contention of having Jesus save us. I know this is what the Churches preach but it certainly isn't what I came away with as an impression of the Christ. He /They / seemed to be a being who demonstrated his Divinity and then revealed to the masses that they too were capable of Divine existence, and they only needed to look within themselves to find the truth. This is what I have extracted from scripture.
    And it seems similar to what you also proclaim is the path to Ma'at.

    Personally Chief Elder I subscribe to no religion because of the racism & sexism inherent in the writings. However, Brother Metascience wrote a profound piece about the hidden doctrine of Jesus which I can & do support his interpretation

    By taking control of their own mind, ceasing to be manipulated by invisible forces hiding beyond layers of light. The Ancient Heruians, true Christians, true Chaostians- whomever they were- certainly knew a time would come when their knowledge and histories would be twisted to suit the systems of the very same spirits they were casting out of people at that time. They knew in fact that such spirits would join forces and create a diabolical plan to entrap the Human mind and even themselves.

    We trace the footsteps of the so-called Jesus, and what we find is not one Man, but several Men and Women devoted to keeping certain mysteries safe, even if they had to pervert them here and there. It is not about salvation and getting into heaven. It is not about getting "saved" and become right with God.​
    http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57081


    Many victims of religion insist on having scripture interpreted for them rather than reading the words themselves and putting the picture together.
    At the very least I can understand why Africans can relate to this Christ figure who is crucified for his liberation struggle; when put in a political context the body of Christ becomes an analogy for the physical African experience - can we agree to this point?

    How else are we to reclaim the minds that are currently devoted to these false religions, are we not compelled to extract the truth? From my own experience I have been betrayed in the most heinous forms by those that claim to be "religious" & god-like.... so I do understand the evil actions these churches inspire.

    A very dear and wise Sister also believes that Religion in all of it's form is brainwashing and indoctrination. However, it is at this point that I ask wherefrom do we define our divinity? And if there is no universal word that can be referenced how can the African Nations resurrect their minds to the Gift of Divinity within them? And does this Gift belong solely to the African body, how do we demonstrate or prove this to ourselves?

    I have had many interesting visions & "knowings" in my young life. Many of which are aligned with the conversations held by your posts. What am I to do with these I ask myself & how can I use them to free myself & others? Or can I? I have been told to write, write what comes to me down, and when I have they have often mysteriously disappeared.

    I have had these writings mysteriously disappear or had hard drives fail and the data become unrecoverable. Later, I will watch another New Age segment uncover or present very similar ideas to the ones I was writing or channeling. So what is to be done? I have come to a place of resignation. The Matrix we exist in seems tied into our thoughts and actions at a pace that defeats us. Correct me if I am wrong here.

    - Do we know what caused the Fall? Is there a technical way to create a mass ascension? Possibly through sound waves? Is it through Kemestry that we awaken?

    - How can the Divine mind return to it's natural state of being while contending with the multiple distractions imposed by the State / gatekeepers? One part of our mind says we are Divine creator of the Universal matrix, the other part wonders why we struggle with issues of lack, failure and ambiguity?

    - Does our liberation begin with the extraction of knowledge from within ourselves?
     
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    my pardon for butting in like this. but i can't help mySelf.

    Sister phynxofkmt, you are so on The Path. you Know that you can actually taste Divinity. you Know that your Divine Mind is Awake and Aware!! way kewl!! Welcome!

    these are not "questions", these are statements of your Knowledge.
    :bowdown:Thank You for Blessing me with this opportunity to Bask in It! :bowdown: Believe in yourSelf!! :number1:

    yes, you do Know: It comes from within and there are no words that can describe It. one only Knows that one is there when one gets there. by watching/experiencing the Joy with which you Demonstrate your Divine Mind, any, and every, Child of the Divine Mind Will be Resurrected.

    you have come to a place of Growth. you have Learned that you are Seeing sooner than others. have you somehow "lost" that which was too powerful for profane tools? continue to examine, test, apply and retest that which you know; Learning never ends! (hint: there is no Matrix; merely a trick/trap to distract the Divine Mind!)


    there exists none of the "distractions" of the "State Matrix" in the Divinity of Our Self; only the Power of Peace.

    Be Peace, Sister phynxofkmt.
     
  7. Chief Elder Osiris

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    Our Liberation will come when we reclaim our Divine Mind, the Mind that is capable of approaching our First Way Ancestors DNA within us and a Mind that will Divinely connect you with Divine knowledge of what it is we are to do to cause our Lives to be safe again on this planet, the physical Universe is our Master Teacher inherit with the Spirit of the Divine Essence. ( GOD)

    Can You Understand That, Beloved?

    Be Kind To Your Self, Beloved

    Again I mean no disrespect to you or anyone, I share That I know Without Compromise, You either Accept or Reject, I Remain With That I Do Know About The Divine Essence, Both Universe, And The Self Of my Divine Being.
     
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