Black Christians : THE AFRICAN QUEEN...A White Woman~ Historical Connections

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  1. Chevron Dove

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    HOTEL RWANDA…Tall Trees & Cockroaches?~ Biblical Translations
    THE AFRICAN QUEEN… A White Woman~ Historical Connections [III]
     
    And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in
    the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. GENESIS 11:2.

    And Pharaoh charged all his people, saying, Every son that is born ye shall cast
    into the river, and every daughter ye shall save alive. EXODUS 1:22.

    And when she had opened it, she saw the child: and, behold, the babe wept. And
    she had compassion on him, and said, This is one of the Hebrews' children.
    EXODUS 2:6.
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    In the movie, Hotel Rwanda, certain actors (actresses) also portrayed other subtle elements that has been used in the past to suppress these Black African people down under a Color Caste System. Because these issues were presented discreetly but not clarified at all, it becomes apart of the continuation of the exploitation process used today, for the benefit of White European interest. These kinds of liberties taken by filmmakers continues to foster the negativities that arise amongst Black African peoples, and they know it. When the Color Caste System becomes accepted byway of Black African people, it becomes the sole support of White Supremacy. The filmmakers made sure to show a predominant theme in that most of the Tutsi actors were much more lighter complexioned and spoke more softer in tone and European like than most of the Phutu [Hutu] actors of whom were more darker in complexion and had a more stronger African tone to their sound. But even more important was the fact that they showed a predominant theme amongst the Tutsis of RED, and this ‘reddish color’ [matted or light reddish-brown color] was a supreme theme amongst the ancient and original Egyptians that originated in the land of their origins, ancient INDIA, and was transferred from there all across the ancient world. The filmmakers even had a little African girl in the movie with red hair, and this issue became an obsession in ancient Africa obviously amongst the later Tutsi peoples as well, due to the famous Egyptian pharaoh of the 19th Dynasty that rose up after the downfall of the 18th Dynasty named Rameses-the-great [Ramses II]. However, in order to understand how this Color Caste system affected the lives of so many Black African people, it would help to understand the 400 year time period that the Bible states the Israelites were under the Egyptian system, and it would help to understand the very origins of this Color Caste System of which began byway of the worship of Ashteroth, the goddess of the east.

    Prior to the rise of Rameses II [Ramses II], there was about a forty year period that lapsed between the death of King Tut and the rise of Ramses II and this time period also reveals the lies presented by the filmmakers of the movie, the Ten Commandments, produced by Cecil B. Demille, a movie that mostly all Black Churches have come to depend upon as being the credible source of the Bible, when in fact it has presented total falsehoods. Based upon the Bible, that particular movie would be nothing short of a brilliant work of Blasphemy and loaded with much deception. If as the Bible records, the Israelites were under about 400 years [spec. 430] of captivity in Egypt, then that would mean they would have been suppressed under the total time span of the rule of the 18th Dynasty of the Thutmosis kings! This Biblical record in addition to the very name of ‘Moses’ being that he was named based upon the very government that he was born under would become an obvious proof as to how filmmakers in America have been able to influence the Black Church away from regarding the very words of the Bible and even other books as proof, and therefore, they are not able to fully recognize the deceptive government upon which we have been made to exist within. Again, the Thutmosis line began byway of a military commander under the original Moses kings of whom upon the death of the third king, had no surviving heir. The beginning of the 18th Dynasty was byway of two Moses brothers, Kamose and Ahmose, of whom fought against a two-system government that had began to take root in Egypt after the end of the 12th Dynasty. Ahmose became the actual king that started the dynastic line and after he died, his son Amenhotep I took the throne, but it was he who had no surviving heir and therefore, his daughter was married to the military commander, Thutmose I, of whom began a new dynastic line under the 18th Dynasty. Thutmoses I culture was no different from the same kinds of ‘Black’ Egyptians that the Moses brothers had fought against that had set up in Egypt after the downfall of the 12th Dynasty, but for some reason this was overlooked.

    Long before Thutmose I took over the 18th Dynasty, the Hurrian people, a mixed population of Black people, migrated into Africa from the north world. These migrations began to happen as a result of the downfall of Greater Babylon, and along with these various kinds of Black people came other east world Asiatics down into Africa with them as well. Thutmose I though, was a newcomer but he was from the very same civilization of the Hurrians of whom had become the major military forces for certain north world governments especially in Central Turkey. These were the very same kind of Blacks that had bonded with the earlier Asiatics and Hyksos forces and that overthrew the 12th Dynasty government. Just like the later 18th Dynasty, the 12th Dynasty began to decline because the last king had no surviving heir and the daughter married, an Horite man [Horite means White], an Asiatic man. Because the Israelite Hebrews were defined to be ‘a priesthood’, they were not blessed by the Creator to assume kingship over any system therefore Joseph, being the vizier of the 12th Dynasty remained respectful to the kings that saved his life and remained under the priesthood of God. However, it becomes obvious with regards to the Egyptian records, that as a vizier or priest, Joseph could and did act as a pharaoh at times for the 12th Dynastic kings until they named a king to assume the role. Although today’s scholars have misdated records, a comparison to the Bible timelines shows that one of the names that marks Joseph in this 12th Dynastic line was, Jakub Har. But after the last male heir died, the line was eventually usurped byway of foreigners. The Hebrews remained in North Egypt while the rulers of the 12th Dynasty remained in the central parts of Egypt for a time. However, many foreign people migrated into Egypt and settled in Egypt during these times and so eventually, a yin-yang system of Asiatics and Hurrians set up.

    The Egyptian records show that the time period of the 13th and 14th Dynasty reflects many names of many rulers of which operated during the same time periods and today’s scholars make no clarifications. Based upon some of the very names presented, it should become obvious that at least during the 13th Dynasty, some of these names reflects the presence of Hebrews, and they would have been relatives of Joseph and appointed under an office of the priesthood. Technically then, these names don’t reflect a dynasty but just a number of men who were priest. But by the time of the 14th Dynasty, it became a time in which the Hyksos people had moved into North Egypt and became prominent, and they were a mixture of people that operated under a Greek format for a time. It would be under these kinds of people that the Asiatic presence would soon become dominant and eventually they organized a force, a violent movement to take control over Egypt upon which the original people under the 12th Dynasty system in the central parts of Egypt were forced to move out of their capitol area and southwards back into Thebes. Therefore, the 15th Dynasty formed based upon a specific movement and of which was set up on a yin-yang, two capitol system, that came to dominate Egypt. The Asiatics set up their capitol in North Egypt and the Hurrians of whom had intermixed with the south world Blacks, set up their capitol in the south in Thebes and further south into the land of Kush. From the 15th until the 17th Dynasties, this was how Egypt was ruled over until the Moses brothers rose up and fought against it. But for some reason, they failed to recognize that the Hurrians that had rooted in Egypt, Nubia and Kush in early times comprised east world Black Egyptians, people of whom had intermixed with Black Ham, but they were a unique and dominant people that believed in a Color Caste system that stems from the worship of the goddess Ashteroth.

    This worship of a White goddess of the east affected, not only ‘Black’ Africa in the earliest of times but all of the western world, and was even why the Moses kings failed to recognize their short lived victory. After the lifetime of Thutmosis I’s daughter, Hatshepsut, the kings began to bond with White, Asiatic-typed women from Mitanni [in the land of Assyria] and elevated them as high queen over the original Black queens, and other Black women already in their courts. This was the time when Moses-the-Hebrew was born. According to the Bible, the pharaoh’s daughter’s name was Bithia, and she drew Moses from the Nile river and spared his life. According to research and the timelines, the actual pharaoh that set the death decree to all the baby males born to the Hebrew women was Amenophis II and he did this in the year 1516 B.C. Therefore and as the secular records show, the name of his daughter Bithia was not recorded because he would not record the women in order to hide the fact that he elevated White Asiatic-typed women over the Black women in his courts. But thanks to Bithia, this Egyptian daughter of the pharaoh would be the rock in which Egypt would soon fall upon. I like to term her, the Jewel of the Nile! Again, her father Amenophis II was born from a ‘Black’ woman, named Hatshepsut-Merytre, but along with his father Thutmosis III, they began to suppress Black women. In his old age, Thutmosis III went about Egypt along with his son Amenophis II and struck out the name of Hatshepsut because they blamed her for the problems they began to have with the Asiatics.

    Hatshepsut, the daughter of Thutmoses I, grew up to challenge the heir to the throne of which was Thutmose III, and she relied upon a Mitannian man to help her rule over Egypt. Hatshepsut was initially married to her half-brother, Thutmosis II but he died early and therefore Hatshepsut ignored his son Thutmosis III that came from another women in the court. Due to this east world Mittanian man, Hatshepsut claimed to be the rightful heir to the throne even as a woman because under the eastern religion, women could rule. This too was the problem of the earlier Moses kings as well because it was their ancestor who opened the door and allowed the eastern religion to take root in the Theban priesthood. When it was convenient, both the Theban priesthood and the Egyptians would allow women to take dominance, but when they could recognize that their freedom became jeopardized then they would fight back to take dominance as they saw fit. Hatshepsut was the very daughter of Thutmosis I but more importantly, she was also the daughter of the wife of Thutmose I and in this she carried the very lineage of the first Moses dynastic line. Therefore, when the male heir came of age, Hatshepsut ignored this, added a new title to her name, and continued to rule over Egypt but unknowingly, she also became the very vessel upon which the Asiatics were able to come against the Egyptians and Thebans again. This Mittanian man named ‘Senemut’ [Senemit] brought deception in the court and soon the Asiatics rebelled against the Egyptians just as they had done against the Moses brothers. But Thutmosis III rose up and began to fight against the Asiatics and Senemut abruptly disappeared from the courts about four years prior to the death of Hatshepsut. Nevertheless, when Thutmoses III became old, he blamed Hatshepsut and other Black women in the court for the problems that occurred but ironically though, Thutmosis III and the other Egyptian kings did the same thing that they blamed the Black women for doing only they had the power to do what they pleased.

    Thutmosis III eventually embraced the Asiatics and while these Egyptians came to detest the Syrians, they embraced the Assyrians, the very enemies. While these Egyptians enslaved and tormented the Syrians, ‘Black’ people of which comprised the Hebrew Israelites, on the other hand, they came to obsess over and bond with the Assyrians [White Syrians’] of which comprised the Mittanians. Thutmosis III, the warrior pharaoh, laid the foundation bringing in foreign Asiatic-typed women into Egypt upon which the other pharaohs followed. After his queen Hatshepsut-Merytre, and the mother of his heir Amenophis II had died, Thutmosis III had other queens. Later on, the very mother of Amenophis II, Hatshepsut-Merytre, was also disgraced as she was not permitted to be buried in the tomb that was prepared for her upon her death. This was done byway of the half-breed son of Amenophis II named, Thutmosis IV, of whom became the next ruler over Egypt. After the original heir to the throne of Amenophis II died mysteriously, his son Thutmosis IV, who was the son of a foreign woman named Tiaa [Tiy] took rule over Egypt. He was the pharaoh that denied the proper burial of Hatshepsut-Merytre and her name and personal artifacts was later usurped by the strange woman name, Tiaa [Tiy], who became the High Queen over Egypt. Thutmosis IV also married a foreign woman, a Mittanian princess, of whom became the High Queen over Egypt. So for at least two consecutive periods in Egypt, the African Queen was a White woman. Katharine Hepburn in the movie, the African Queen, produced by Sam Spiegel cannot even compare to this kind of history. This was what Moses-the-Hebrew was brought up around and he abhorred it. This would be why he clung to a Black woman in love, and this was what White supremacist have tried to hide and suppress. Cont.
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    Amenhotep II also tried to break traditions by preventing the names of his wives from being
    recorded and introducing women who were not from the royal lineage into the line of descent…
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God's_Wife_of_Amun

    …After becoming pharaoh, Amenhotep married a woman of uncertain parentage named
    Tiaa.[8]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenhotep_II

    And thou shalt speak and say before the LORD thy God, A SYRIAN ready to perish was my
    father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a
    nation, great, mighty, and populous: And the Egyptians evil entreated us, and afflicted us,
    and laid upon us hard bondage:… DEUTERONOMY 26:5-6.

    Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and
    thirty years. EXODUS 12:40. [430 years]
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    Edit: Graphics
    Edit: Correction; the wife of Thutmosis III, Hatshepsut-Merytre (Merytre-Hatshepsut) and mother of Amenophis II, did not die before Thutmosis III.
     
     
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    So whose words are most important? God's or the white race? That's why I love the Bible. God doesn't respect one person over the next because of skin color. If Black people would simple read the Bible, they will see who they are and not play into the race issue. The simple fact we listen to what whites are saying rather than listen to God. And this is why there will be divisions among Black folks. BTW, I refuse to pay ten dollars to watch the trash and I have boycotted Hollywood since the 90's because of its racist practices. And yet, Blacks are Hollywood's biggest supporters. It seems that no matter how racist some of these movies are, Blacks will support them. We are their own biggest enemies. We continue to feed a system that keeps kicking us in the teeth.

    "For there is no respect of persons with God" {Roman 2:11}
     
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    Did you not mention in one of these threads that your mother was white (French or something)? Black people have had the bible for a minute, yet there are still issues with racism (light/white "supremacy"). Can you share your view on that?

     
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    My mother's family tree in America started with white French & Cherokee and eventually was diluted with Black blood recently. My father's descendants were slaves. I never bought into the light versus dark issues because I don't think anyone is better than anyone else. Whites are not better than Blacks or any group of minorities. It is just an issue of having faith in oneself & God. Personally, I still believe many Blacks are still trapped in a 'spiritual bondage' of slavery and feel inferior to whites. I am just not one of them. This white supremacist's mentality & race superior flew out the door when Senator Barack Obama took the oath to become the first Black president. And many white folks are terribly upset that the most powerful man on this planet is a BLACK MAN. I believe it is the work of GOD that put a Black man in the White House ... because it wasn't supposed to happen. If you read the Bible, it will tell you that GOD elects the Kings. And GOD elected him for a reason that will upset many Blacks. Please don't ask because I won't go in that sensitive area. LOL !!
     
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    According to the Bible, God has nothing to do with a government that elects leaders, so president obama is a result of this government separating from Christianity in 1776 in exchange for a government that elects.

    According to the Bible, God put his people under a priesthood of which only he resides over. no one was/is allowed to elect leaders under God. In fact, when they tried that during the Exodus and presented a petition to Moses and Aaron that they wanted to choose their own leaders, the Creator God opened up the ground and swallowed up the perpetrators and etc. Jesus was not elected by no man. he was chosen by the Creator God.

    There was a time when they wanted a kingship, but even then, both king Saul and king David was chosen by God, and after David, the line of kings were direct descendants from him; it was not an election.

    Again, this government separated Church from State, and that meant that they separated from having a system governed by God. The State now has the power to override the church. That's Roman style.

    In regards to your belief's about Black people with regards to racism, the Bible speaks of Jesus coming to Judge this world about issues of racism and etc. no matter what we think. As you stated in your previous post, I agree, there is no respect of persons when it comes to the Creator, and therefore, this government will be judged according for their acts of racism and etc. And, I like you have written in the above post, have stopped watching what Hollywood have produced.
     
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    Are you a Christian? Have you read the entire Bible? because I can prove your very first sentence as incorrect. BTW, Jesus has "all power" & control of the earth & heaven ... not God. Jesus established a 'new covenant with the inhabitants of earth' through His crucifixon.' Jesus is omnipotent/omniscient and He created the earth and it "entire history" along with His Father long before Adam set foot on earth. Therefore, They planted and uprooted every ruler in its 6000 + year history in order to pave way for Jesus to return to earth to rule as King of king and Lord of lords. See below:

    Roman 13:1
    Daniel 2:21
    Matthew 28:18
     
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    Are you saying that the Creator is our number one enemy? Everything in this questionable post points to just that. God's so-called involvement in this questionable political system makes both Black and white people people "upset?"...hmmm....wonder who it makes happy then?:thinking:All this coming from the same God who is "no respector of persons"? You are "super" transparent.

     
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    Yep !! I see where this is heading and won't waste my time with you. It is obvious you are not a Christian or a believer. Just someone who picks an opportune time to provoke a confrontation.
    Posted two messages and you deliberately "trashed & twisted" both for a 'wicked' purpose. Have a good day.
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,

    .......My focus with this particular post super has to do with this:



    In your reading of the Bible, what was it that did it for you? Which key accounts brought you to the knowledge of the black presence in scripture?

    Peace In, and I hope you return to this Study Group Thread with answers to the questions put to you.
     
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