Pan Africanism : TFG & Uganda Target Civilians

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  1. abdurratln

    abdurratln Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Mogadishu — Bitter shelling targeted to Bakara market in Mogadishu killed about 5, wounding more than 20 others, witnesses said told Shabelle radio on Tuesday evening.

    Ali Muse Sheik, the official of the emergency traffic confirmed to Shabelle radio that they took more people from various places in the market adding that there were died bodies of civilians they had seen at the spots they took from the injuries.

    It is not known the reason of the shelling and there was no fighting in Mogadishu mainly the war zones close to the market.

    Other reports from the north of the capital say that both rivals, Harakat Al-shabab Mujahideen and the troops of the transitional government of Somalia with AMISOM had been using and exchanging shell fires in north of the capital Mogadishu.

    There were no casualties reported so far.

    Most of the clashes, shelling in the capital cause civilian casualties of deaths and injuries in the Somali capital Mogadishu.
    http://allafrica.com/stories/201008040410.html
     
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    What had kept Somalia from creating a stable government for over 15 years inspite of the assistance from the AU and other nations?

    Why has it lead to the AU sending united troops from various African nations to create order?
    Wassup?
     
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    Somalia's geographic location makes it the most strategic land in Africa. There is only a narrow area between Somalia and Yemen that ships can pass. Billions in food and products headed to Egypt come thru this area. Combine that with the fact the the multinational corps are robbiing them of their fish with nets banned in the US and UK, and u will get the "piracy" that u often see. Momar Khadafi made the point that no fish for Somalia means no breast milk for Somalia women. No nation of men will sit and watch their kids starve. Being that the US is constantly bothering in internal affairs the gov is always harrassed by outside countries which like the AU are mere puppets for multinationals like Africom
     
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    52 nations still puppets ?:qqb026:

    I don't buy that, and that's kinda like saying one accepts the lie of white supremacy,

    one will have to come up with some proof to back up that statement
     
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    abdurratln Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I think the main problem is the so-called "assistance". The Somali people have never asked anyone to help them to govern themselves. So, apparently they do not need "assistance". Why would they need "assistance? Are they too stupid to govern themselves? I do not think so.

    The Somalis nation originated in the 6th century at the time of the birth of Islam. They have centruries of experience in self-government. Plus, Islam has always inspired their ideas of self-government. For instance, they have been led by sultans, not kings, not prsidents. They have produced many of the greatest leaders that Africa has ever produced. And, they have always been independent minded enough to resist foreign "assistance" in the management and administration of their internal affairs.

    The only time that Somalia has not been able to form an effctive government in its history has been when "assistance" was first offered under the Clinton administration. Clearly that experience showed the average Somali citizen fighting against "assistance" even in the face of starvatiopn and famine. I recall scenes in which Somalimahs lined the streets to beat the dead bodies of American mercenaries who had been killed "assisting" Somalis. Clearly every day ordinary people was opposed to such "assistance".

    In my opinion, the current problems are rooted in the the humiliation that the Clinton administration received "assisting" the Somali people. The Clintons are still angry about it. And, now that another Clinton (who obviously is a major zionist and anti-Muslim flunky) is in power affecting policy relating to Africa and to Somalia they are trying to take revenge by "assisting" Somali again. Hence, we see mercenaries murdering innocent and unarmed Somali women and children.

    It is time for all self-respecting Africans to tell the Clintons that we do not want any of their "assistance". We know how to govern oursleves without any "assistance" whatsoever. Thank you. We are not inferior beings who need or request "assistance" from white Christian Europeans to govern ourselves. Besides, Somalia is 99% Muslim. As such, any "assistance" from Christian Uganda and Christian USA would be inferior to Islamic standards. Thanks but no thanks to your "assistance". Go "assist" some white Christian Euroepan nation in governing themselves. We Africans do want or need it any "assistance" from any white people.

    Wrong. There are no "various African nations" invloved. Only Uganda, Burunid and Djibouti are involved. Let me explain.

    Djibouti is a small little city-state of less than 3/4 of a million people. It is a poor country that is heavily occupied by foreign troops. It is strategically located on the Somali Peninsula. So, by controlling Djibouti, the west is able to control the trade routes through the Red Sea into the Indian Ocean. In other words, simply by controlling Djibouti, the west controls all world trade between east and west. That is a huge economic advantage for the white man and against the economic intersts of Africa.

    I know virtually nothing of Burundi because it too is an extremely small and poor country in Africa. Nobody ever pays it much attention. It has a history of tribal warfare between the Tutsis and Hutus. And, I think the only reason they are there is to receive western money to pay their soldiers.

    Uganda is the real problem. Uganda ia about 90% Christian. But, Somalia is 99% Muslim. People fail to notice this some times. But, the rulers of Uganda are Unlce Toms. Period. They were basically installed in power by an Unlce Tom. His name was Julius Nyerre of Tanzania. So, this is where we must go to understand what Is happening in Uganda today.

    Uncle Julius invaded Uganda. How? The Brittish financed his army. And, they basically dicated that he invade Uganda. And, the British gave money to the leaders of Tanzania to make them British flunkies. This is how we know for a fact that although Uncle Julius talk a pretty good Pan-Africanism, his actions have always been contrary to Pan-Africanism. The history goes back to before independence.

    Uncle Julius has always been somewhat of a coward and a traitor to African interests. When the call went out for Africa to Unite, Uncle Julius was a major player is holding up the formation of Organization for African Unity, the forerunner to the AU. Her refused to join. Instead, he set up a competing organization called the Brazzaville group, or something like that, I think. This undermined the Union of African States which was the forerunner to the OAU. So, the only way to get OAU going was to abandon the principles of African Unity and "go slow" towards Unification. This was Uncle Julius's crazy idea. He probably got it from London. "Go slow" has meant over 60 years so far. At this rate, Africa will never Unite. This is what the fight in Somalia is really all about: African Unity.

    So basically, the mess in Somalia is caused by the Bristish through Uncle Julius though Uganda. And, it is caused by the Bristish through Bill Clinton who was educated in Great Britain. I do not see how people cannot sse this. We all know Clinton is very, very British oriented. This is why his foreign policy legacy is one of failure. This failure is not seen just in Somalia but also in Sudan and Palestine. Recall that Clinton refused to make a peace treaty with Yasir Arafat. And, then he lied and said it was Arafat's fault. That is Clinton's legacy. And, so, Obama has an uphill battle to leave a better legacy by bringing more peace between Africa and the USA and between Christians and Muslims.
     
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    Both the AU and Africom get their marching orders from the multinationals. As a watcher of link tv you should know that. Democracy Now spoke of how Africom withholds food until governments comply with their demands. Sadly its often the nations own's food supply which is held and not transported to markets. If any African nations actually unite one day it'll first be North Africa as they already have OPEC and the ARab Union. Where is the black union? More than likely if we see that it'll be a handful of Western or South African countries but I wouldn't count on over 1000 language groups unifying anytime soon. Tribalism is worse than racism as they will allign themselves with white countries against other African countries as you are seeing now. Uganda haS a large muslim minority. I guess they r the tribes that Idi Amin came from in the East of the country on the other side of the lake. Religion also has ZERO to do with these conflicts as you see in Sudan. It's more about tribe than religion. Most African Muslims r not fundamentalist especially Somalians. They r as liberal as they come. The people keep voting for Al - Shahab because they are under attck and need leaders with guns. Similar to Palestinians who vote for Hamas. They also fight other muslims in Lebanon as Palestinians r not much admired by their Lebanese brothers. The PLO also fought Hamas. Religion in these conflicts is over emphasized.
     
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    DO NOT FORGET to mention how the enemy has been dumping poisionous waste in Somali waters. This is poisoning the food supply of country that relies heavily on seafood. Plus, it detroys the ecosystems. It will take many, many years if not centuries to clean up Somali waters.
     
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    bro what nation has accepted AFRICOM to set up bases?

    and what nation has said they would accept GM foods?

    it would be better to show some links and facts

    before one comes off with this the majority of Black folks on the planet are fools and dupes rhetoric, because that is a bunch of bunk, worse then self hate
     
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