Black People : Taking action for ourselves

What the hayyeelllll :?: :?: :?:

Is chuck talking to chuck?

:SuN049: LAUGHING OUT LOUD - LITERALLY!

its some crazy folks up in here. That is fuuuunnnnneeee!


The weird thang is - I KNEW I was crazy. I even embraced that.
But when you crazier than me... and don't even know it....and think it's everybody else with the issue? - YOU EVEN MO CRAZY THAN A LIL BIT.


my grandaddy had a sayin (or somebody in the family did).... 'it's betta to be crazy and know it, than to be crazy and not know it.'

You cain't change what you don't acknowledge, for then you fail to see the problem.

Say it with me now... 'MY NAME _____ AND I AM CRAZY AS A BETSY BUG!'

We need a 12 step program for crazy.

but i'm keepin mine. I know how to handle it. :court:

Chuck:

By the way, 'Doc'?

Always check and see if your 'cure' works--on yourself--first!

Do get back to me afterwards...

LOL

(Lots of luck)!

:10500:
 
Last try:

Yeah, heard and read about your life story too, sis...

But, one obvious no no, in my neck of the woods, i. e., never put your business in the street...

Second and finally:

When you quit being and/or playing the victim?

That's when you take back control over your own life etc.!

The very nature of the crap ad naseum being hyped on this thread/being used to hustle the rest of us/ad naseum will only lead to more regressing and retreating...

Also that kinda sorta leads me to wonder where the person who started it is truly coming from too...

:10500:

OK chuck, on the straight - that part in bold sounds like something a white person would say. I've talked, discuss, and had debate with them ad-nauseum, and they ALWAYS put on that 'victim mentality' crap.

I have used my life as stories and a way of sharing and inviting solutions to problems, for people to see and understand what I've been through and how I'm using that to effect solutions in my own way. I have never once shared a story on here to elicit a sympathy response from anybody. NEVER!

And your response on here has a certain disassociation from the people and subject matter that is reminiscent of how a white person would respond - one who wants to understand but can't otherwise relate... so they speak in these disaffected and disassociated tones. They do this when they don't want anyone to know they are white but they can't quite come off as black either.

As for putting my 'business in the street' - get bent. I will do that and more because to share is to heal and help others heal - and that is exactly what I do and will continue to do - to your chagrin and others.

I have no problem conversing with white people but it does get a little tedious trying to educate them on ways and means of black people and how things affect them or how they effect things.

Quit fakin the funk because I called your game... indirectly as I tried because calling someone a white person straight out is a rule violation I've read. Someone else got reprimanded for it.

So continue to peep game and get yourself educated.. but when you post, know that your posts make about as much sense as a snake with a bag of nuts.

Peace.
 
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I think people have been asking the same question in just about every thread, but the problem is that unless the answer looks exactly like something they want, or the answer presented in a way they want and can understand - they completely look straight over it or go against it - as has been the case with the thread 'heaven is between a black woman's thighs' started by Truth, 'What can an activist do when there is no movement' started by chuck, the one on 'women taking responsibility for their choices in men' started by Destee, and the marrying thread started by Kemetry. All of these threads and many more stated what the problem is - but when you offer solutions they weren't prepared to accept them because they weren't what they wanted or they were not presented in way that was acceptable...for them.

For some, the 'solutions' hit too close to home - like in how we are raising our children. For sure, if you been raising your kids in the way you figure was 'right' and someone tells you that is wrong and/or contributing to the problem - then you're going to become defensive and not see that as a viable solution to the problem. That has been the case with the whole 'man of the house' and 'what is a man?' threads along with the current one about child support.

It's a merry-go-round. I present a problem and ask for solutions. Instead you expound on the problem by adding more problems and then blaming it on this and that - feminism, women's choices, sex, women going naked and not covering up, people not getting married, children born OOW, etc. Those aren't SOLUTIONS that's just a blame game. So then the conversation centers on whatever is attacked - women, education, feminism, dead beat men, etc. Again, no solutions, just a back and forth banter talking about what these people have done that contribute to the problem and/or current state social illness and depravity. I've seen that not only here but in almost any place where people try to tackle a problem, including on that 'State of Black America' clip that was presented here (given, i didn't watch the whole show but I'm sure it didn't any SOLUTIONS to the problems).

And I sense some people have been hurt, and use the opportunity to attack some subjects and people indirectly or directly - as is the case I've noticed with a particular gentleman's threads and comments on feminism and interracial dating.

Everything you presented is apart of the problem - white people, religion, the government, him and her. But the problem IS the solution. As jamesfrmphilly so duly noted, the black man (people) is the solution. The black man (people) is the problem - but he's (they) are also the solution, and the solutions comes from within.

I understand why some people ain't gonna wanna listen to me, in particular. I have had the kind of life that people feel contribute to the problems and issues that is failing the community. Like one brotha elsewhere said - who the hell is going to listen to a man rappin about making money and being rich when he broke? In you gonna come about it, then you need 2B about it! By the same token, who's gonna listen to anyone not living the life that other people ascribe too?

That is so true... and I wonder about that. What can a homeless man or woman teach me about having a home when they are homeless? What can someone on welfare teach about abut the value of a $ when they on welfare? What can a high school drop-out teach me about education when they don't have any and have resorted crime and criminal activity to make a buck - and the answer (to me) - PLENTY! Because I've been there or been close enough to it to understand, and I think you can learn and find value in dam everybody. But to someone else - if you ain't living the life then you caint be the life you want to espouse to someone else.

When I respond to these type of threads, I'm cynical and sarcastic. That's the nature of me. But I've tried to come correct and present some solutions as I saw appropriate, by sharing bits and pieces of my life, what I've learned, and how I'm trying to instill what I've learned in myself and my kids. For me, that is where it starts because the problems I've encountered on here with solutions are also the ones I've encountered in real life - STUBBORNESS. People that too offensive as well as defensive. And when you are OFFENSIVE, then people get DEFENSIVE and won't want to listen to you. My children are a lot more malleable - and that's where I can effect the most change, so that's where I try to start. That is where it all begins anyway.

Truth just hipped me onto this wonderful new world of blogtalkradio. I've listened to some of her old shows and perused a few others. Some of it is crap, but it has the wonderful potential to be a solution and a guide. I don't much listen to talk radio at all - over or subvert racist, and stupid black buffoonery, or listen to radio version of 'this week in black america and how they continue to mess it up for everybody else' type crap. But REAL people, amateurs.... now that's different. Sometimes the best folks with the real help and solutions are the ones who haven't quite 'made it' on the professional level, the pro-bono type, the ones still trying to get their name out there and gather an audience or clientele.

Someone told Alexyss K. Taylor that she was good, but needed to be 'educated' to get her point across more effectively.

:SuN049:

I'm glad she didn't get 'educated' first - she just wouldn't be the same. And this 'educated' person was one of the many following that this 'uneducated' person has following her - so what does that tell you?

I'm all for education, and advocate it to help us succeed financially and career wise, but education tempers a passion from within, and conforms you to societal standards whereby you lose your passion and become dissociated from the people and problems before you.

I agree with most of what you said...

Especially about the "problem is the solution"

But my thing is...We act like "we" aren't a problem at all sometimes.

It's rare, especially on this website, for anyone to say that 'Okay, I'm wrong and you're right'...

I don't know...I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around what it is...But you obviously know what I am speaking about
 

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