Black Christians : States profiting the most from sin

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  1. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    States profiting the most from sin


    In 2011, state governments collected more than $50 billion in taxes and proceeds from vice: gambling, smoking and alcohol consumption.

    Some argue that state governments should not profit from residents’ vices. Frequently, consumption is higher in the states making the most from sin taxes.

    But some states rely on these activities for a substantial proportion of their budget. In Nevada, “sin taxes” accounted for nearly 6% of the state’s revenue.

    Based on data from the Census Bureau and the American Gaming Association, 24/7 Wall St. identified the states where the largest percentage of revenue came in the form of proceeds from alcohol, tobacco and casino taxes, as well as the lottery and state-regulated liquor stores. Yahoo! Homes is publishing the top five states profiting most from sin. | By Michael B. Sauter, Alexander E. M. Hess and Thomas C. Frohlich, 24/7 Wall St

    http://homes.yahoo.com/photos/state...ng-the-most-from-sin-photo-1377278370622.html



    The link has 5 photos and describes each State's profit margin, interesting and amazing read.
     
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    This is a rather misplaced view. The state's right to collect those taxes comes from the fact of the licensing these states issue. While it is reprehensible that they license those things, it is perfectly right for them to collect taxes from those licensees. If an authority licenses a thing, they can also tax it.
     
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    What makes those things reprehensible?
     
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    The licensing is the reprehensible part, because they are an earthly authority choosing to give license to things that God does not. But the profits are from such licenses, not the sins themselves. Otherwise, prostitution and idolatry would have been thrown into the mix. Like it or not, that's the entire truth of the role of the state. If you want to take better aim at the issue, aim at the licensing powers of The state allowing sinful activity. Even in biblical standards they have a right to profit with lawful usage of the power given to them.
     
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    Specifically, what is it about those things that God does not condone which makes them reprehensible, was more along the line of my question, not licensing?
     
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    Then you missed the point of the original answer. Their power of licensing gives them the right to make the profit. The point of aim should be the licensing. Name one scripture where nations outside of Rod's people were told what they could and could not profit from? The state is a corporation, a soulless being, like the corporations they licensed. How do you think the profit of soulless beings, organizations created by agreement on paper for the sole purposes of profit and legal structure can be put on trial morally except the object of usage of their given powers? They are supposed to make a profit and they are supposed to issue licenses. So it seems that the real goal is to attack what they license, not the profit itself. That's the only way to make it a moral issue. Otherwise it is a mere legal issue for which this argument has no spiritual basis.

    Clyde, i am all about getting to the heart of an issue, and you can't get there by not looking at the outside issue and choosing to limit your focus there.

    We are all clear that sin is sin. What does that have to do with a state? A state is a soulless being, a creation of man that we have given power to license and profit. And if the activity our creation licensed is sinful, whose fault is that, the creation's or the souls operating it? If the blame belongs to man, how is man responsible?

    I can answer both questions. Man is responsible because he used the creation's power of license to allow sin to be sanctioned in certain areas for profit. The state, in all its being is without life, intent or soul that it may be held responsible.
     
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    Although I'm sure you meant God's people, lets concentrate on this statement for what I'm getting at:


    Name one scripture where nations outside of Rod's people were told what they could and could not profit from?



    What are those things that differ for God's people in contrast to nations outside of God's scope?

    Are you going to share those things that God does not condone?

    Again, my concern is not about licensing.
     
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    Brother, slow down, I don't like to chase posts that are updated after release ...


    You were asked a simple question:

    http://destee.com/index.php?threads/states-profiting-the-most-from-sin.77524/#post-856105


    Please stay focus ...
     
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    It should be, because the licensing issue is at the heart of your topic. How does the state profit from sins? By what means is that profit made? Is there any right whatever for the state to do so? If so, how was that right given? By whom was it given? All of that is your concern if this is your topic; not just the sins themselves.

    People with souls and morals, like you and i follow our faith and take on our duty to stand against sin. The state, being a soulless and amoral being, shares no such duty. So why would its profits be an issue without addressing its power to license?
     
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    My focus is fine and i am trying to help you see the whole issue, not just the surface. If you really want the biblical stance on issues like this. Allow me to give you a scripture. 2 Thessalonians 2, the whole chapter.
     
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