Black People : STATEMENT BY OSAMA BIN LADEN

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  1. Aqil

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    Following is an excerpt from the speech by the al-Qa'ida leader, Osama bin Laden, addressing the American people in a video, parts of which were aired by al-Jazeera television last night (10/29), as translated by Reuters:

    "O American people, I am speaking to tell you about the ideal way to avoid another Manhattan, about war and its causes and results. Security is an important foundation of human life and free people do not squander their security, contrary to Bush's claims that we hate freedom.

    It is known that those who hate freedom do not possess proud souls like those of the 19, may God rest their souls. We fought you because we are free and because we want freedom for our nation. When you squander our security we squander yours.

    I am surprised by you. Despite entering the fourth year after September 11, Bush is still deceiving you...and therefore the reasons are still there to repeat what happened.

    God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers, but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it...

    As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me to punish the unjust the same way - to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting, and to stop killing our children and women.

    We had no difficulty in dealing with the Bush administration because they resemble the regimes in our countries, half of which are ruled by the military and the other half by the sons of kings. He adopted despotism and the crushing of freedoms from Arab rulers and called it the 'Patriot Act,' under the guise of combating terrorism...

    It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief would leave 50,000 citizens in the two Towers to face those horrors alone at a time when they most needed him, because he thought listening to a child discussing her goat was more important.

    Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al-Qa'ida. Your security is in your own hands, and each state which does not harm our security will remain safe."
     
  2. panafrica

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    That's BS...the President of the United States decides when to go to war, and where to go to war. The average American citizen (black, white, latino, or otherwise) does not make this decision...and as a result, can not personally prevent another 9/11. Thus Osama's beef has to be with the President (US government), and not with the people of America. The American people can not even remove/impeach a president, the Senate does. All the people of the US can do is vote for a presidental administration (and technically the electoral college does that), senate, and congress which will "hopefully" represent them. However once a politican is in office he/she can do whatever they wish until their term is up. This is one reason I supported the recall election in California (although I did not support who won)...ideas like this can restore the power of voters if they are universally practiced in all elections...across all brances of government. Until then, the people of the United States do not have the power which Osama is suggesting....and he knows this. You don't have to support Bush to denounce this Arab bastard, how many muslims were praying to Allah when the towers collapsed on them? Bin Laden isn't fighting a Jihad, he is serving his own cause: He'll replace white supremacy with Arabic supremacy (with the black man retaining his position at the bottom of the social-economic structure).
     
  3. Aqil

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    First let me say that intelligence is the ability to deal with cognitive complexities sans any ad hominem attacks, which are indicative of a weak-minded person. Secondly, the real tragedy of 9/11 was the fact that it was an act of retaliation...for the most part against the horrible genocidal acts that are perpetrated upon the indigenous people of Palestine by the illegal Israeli military forces of occupation, who use American-made weapons of death and destruction to reign terror on the Palestinian people...

    Osama said that reasons to repeat the September 11 attacks remain, because U.S. policy has not changed, and "Bush is still misleading you."

    While repeating his claim that the attacks were motivated by "the arbitrariness of the U.S.-Israeli alliance," for the first time bin Laden mentioned the U.S.-approved Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 as a reason for the attacks.

    "As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me that the unjust should suffer the same, that the towers in America must be destroyed so that America gets a taste of what we went through, so that it will stop killing our children and women."
     
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    Bin Laden also said that reasons to repeat the September 11 attacks remain, because U.S. policy has not changed and "Bush is still misleading you."

    While repeating his claim that the attacks were motivated by "the arbitrariness of the U.S.-Israeli alliance," for the first time bin Laden mentioned the U.S.-approved Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 as a reason for the attacks.

    "As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me that the unjust should suffer the same, that the towers in America must be destroyed so that America gets a taste of what we went through, so that it will stop killing our children and women."
     
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    wait a cotton pickin minute!
    how did the Palestinians get to be indigenous peoples and the blacks in the Sudan are not?
    by your own prior standards, the Israelis are as indigenous as the Palestinians.
     
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    the congress has the power to declare war, not the president.
     
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    What about the millions of Americans that don't support Bush or the war on Iraq? Should they form their own state to be safe?
     
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    Congress officially declares war, but the President can send troops into conflict....Vietnam is an example of this.
     
  9. Aqil

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    Not by my standards, jfp...the Israelis stole the land from the Palestinians...the country was called "Palestine," and its indigenous people are called "Palestinians." Here is further proof from Smith's Bible Dictionary:

    Palestina, (land of strangers). These two forms occur in the KJV four times, always in poetical passages; the first in Exodus 15:14 and Isaiah 14:29. The second in Joel 3:4. In each case the Hebrew is Pelesheth, a word found - besides the above - only in Psalms 60:8 and 108:9, all in which our translators have rendered it by "Philistia" or "Philistines."

    "Palestine" in the KJV really means "Philistia." The original Hebrew word Pelesheth signified merely the long and broad strip of maritime plain inhabited by their encroaching neighbors; nor does it appear that at first it signified more to the Greeks. As lying next the sea, and as being also the high road from Egypt to Phoenicia - and the richer regions no of it - the Philistine plain became sooner known to the western world than the country farther inland, and was called by them "Syria Palestina" and/or "Philistine Syria."

    From then on it was gradually extended to the country farther inland, until in the Roman and later Greek authors - both heathen and Christian - it became the usual appellation for the whole country of the Jews, both west and east of Jordan. The word is now so commonly employed in our more familiar language to designate the whole country of Israel, that, although Biblically a misnomer, it has been chosen here as the most convenient heading under which to give a general description of the Holy Land, embracing those points that have not been treated under the separate headings of cities or tribes. "Palestine," then, is designated in the Bible by more than one name. For example:

    1. During the patriarchal period, the conquest and the age of the Judges and also where those early periods are referred to in the later literature (as in Psalms 105:11) it is spoken of as "Canaan," or more frequently "the land of Canaan," meaning thereby the country west of the Jordan, as opposed to "the land of Gilead," on the east.

    2. During the monarchy the name – usually, though not frequently – employed is "land of Israel." (1 Samuel 13: 19)

    3. Between the captivity and the time of our Lord the name "Judea" had extended itself from the southern portion to the whole of the country, and even that beyond the Jordan. (Matthew 19:1 and Mark 10:1)

    4. The Roman division of the country hardly coincided with the Biblical one, and it does not appear that the Romans had any distinct name for that which we understand by "Palestine."

    5. Soon after the Christian era we find the name “Palestina” in possession of the country.

    www.searchgodsword.org

    (Btw, the Sudanese people are the indigenous people of the Sudan. Who said they weren't?)
     
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    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
     
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