Black Spirituality Religion : Spiritually- When did the colour Black become so negative and why?

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  1. wakingupnow

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    Blessings All,
    I am a newbie here so hope I don't start a war with this question! I'm not trying to incite racial hatred but feel this is an important issue and want to know what others feel about it.

    As a spiritual person I like to analyse my dreams and sometimes use the online dream dictionary for interpetation. But I notice that on some of these spiritual sites the colour Black symbolises: depression, evil, hopelessness, demonic, etc. In contrast White represents: purity, enlightenment, hope, spirituality, angels etc. These negative 'Black' associations are in all kinds of western literature and art.

    Black also symbolises darkness or night. At night we sleep, dream, regenerate our bodies, and heal. Without darkness - sleep we would die. Dark represents the unknown and mysterious. Not necessarily evil. So when did 'Black' become so negative?

    Am I just being super sensitive here, or does anyone else agree that these kinds of definitions are just part of the mind manipulation of society?

    Depression is described as the 'black dog', and words like blackmail, black market and on, imply trickery and fraud. Words are powerful, and shape our psyche. It doesn't take a big leap of the imagination to link this kind of symbolism with racism, white supremacy issues, but also with self hatred in the 'Black' community.

    The 'Black' image is being destroyed everyday with negative subliminal messages about ourselves through the media, fashion industry etc. So I'm disappointed to see that the spiritual community is also contributing to the manipulation.

    What impact is this having on young African, African American, Caribbeans, when they discover for the first time that they are 'black' and black is bad? No wonder so many of us are unconsciously trying to be white!

    I wrote to one of the spiritual sites to point out that they should be setting the agenda for positive change. Not buying into mind control and manipulation.

    I would love to hear from other more experienced or informed spiritual people about the colour Black.
     
  2. truetothecause

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    Greetings wakingupnow and Thanks for Sharing!

    BLACKTASTIC question.

    I'll be reading responses along with you as I have similar questions.
     
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    When Europeans formed the religion and illusion of white supremacy, in doing so they also created a dichotomous relationship between white and black. So if white is the opposite of black based on their definition, and white people are pure, upright, of God and beautiful- then based on their definition black must be the exact opposite. But Lions are not the opposite of Tigers. This type of irrational thinking has plagued our people as well because we have been taught to think like them.

    There are many Whites that subconsciously believe that black people are charred, burnt by the flames of hell, of the devil, not of God. But these ideas come from their belief that God is white and all humans were at first white and sinned against God and were made to be darker as a mark to represent their sins.

    It's from these ideas that most definitions of black are created. It couldn't be based on science or nature. in nature the darkness soil is also the richest. In science the darker cells have a stronger ability to regenerate. So these attacks against "blackness" are formed only in literature and the hostile ignorance of common sense. The difference between doves and pigeons? Doves are white. Now what they are afraid to tell the world is that doves are pigeons, because for so long doves have been used to symbolize white purity and divinity. Ask any white person to tell the difference between an albino pigeon and a dove they couldn't do it. Doves were bred from pigeons and some will say the same about White people- bred from the original people.

    There are not one White person on planet earth that is not addicted to a dark substance. And I would challenge anyone to find one. Coffee, tobacco, chocolate/coca beans, wine, and Black people.The list goes on. Dark substances seem to be the only things capable of slowing down their pathogenic mindsets.

    Mind control is only possible for those that have no serious desire to analyze reality. They have colored people bleaching the health right out of their teeth, bones are not white. Bones are yellowish to light brown. They have people restricting the blood vessels in their eyes to make the whites of the eyes appear whiter. The sclera is suppose to show us the health of the body. White is translucence, also used to absorb light. Now a basic study of the black sclera's of animals like horses explains further the role the color plays in nature.

    Now if Black people started wearing these color contacts- it would really scare the establishment to death. Then we'd really be- of the devil.

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  4. Keita Kenyatta

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    Specifically it came from the Jewish Priesthood and the writings of the 'Babylonian Talmud" which was written in the 6th century. After that it was advanced through white so called scholars with their warped concept of white supremacy. Once their version of the "printing press" was created in the 1400's they were able to promote their warped concepts regarding "black" on a wide scale through colonization of information and history...and "whoever writes history controls history". Furthermore, since the first public school system was created in Wittenburg Germany by the church, they were able to teach this from grade school on up and the timeline and history attached to it was none other than the Bible...which by the way was the very first book ever printed by them once they created the printing press.

    Prior to this point, the African influence was so great that up until 2,000 years ago a dead body was still called an "Osiris". Paris is named after Isis. If you look in an excellent work by J.A. Rogers entitled: Africa's Gift To America" you will see that prior to the 1400's that the Atlantic Ocean was still written on world maps as being "The Ethiopian Ocean". I could go on and on but I think you get the point.
     
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    I don't know about wakingupnow however, there is a major part of the question that is still unanswered. I have my own sense of the answer as I did with the parts you each spoke to. That was my take yet, even our Afreeka Brothers and Sisters who are well versed in our Traditional Spiritual practices, i.e Yoruba, Akan continue to assert ""Black is Bad" and we can not wear the color to Spiritual ceremonies and all.

    Just during my recent trip to Ghana, I had to change clothes to attend the ceremonies cause Black is my color more often than not. As a result, I packed what I had.

    So if this is common knowledge, the notion that black is "bad" and WE know this to be a result of white supreme lunatic thinking and behaving...then why do our people continue to uphold this notion:?:
    I think it is because they are just sick, traumatized and have not explored SELF to the degree they can see this ish...can't wear black to "Spiritual" ceremonies working to connect with the BLACKNESS...reaching into the universe, tapping into the power of WE..out there within the abyss.

    What do you you two, Brothers Keita and MetaSaience, think about our Spiritual practioneers, those we will go to for assistance, guidance and/or healing/cleansing and they uphold the notion of "black is bad":?:

    M.E.
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    In Japan the color black is synonymous with wisdom. The color black is representative of accumulative knowledge. From what I have read brothers Keita and metasalence are correct.
     
  7. wakingupnow

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    Many thanks for all the responses. Yes, there's much that you've said that makes sense. All of you (but one) mentioned one root cause, from what I have seen, for the 'black is bad' concept - RELIGION!

    As I see, truetothecause, all roads lead to rome, literally. So the unanswered question must be RELIGION - namely judeo christianity, but also islam i have to say. Islam also corrupted the spiritual meaning of the colour black to symbolise vengeance according to what i've read in a book on symbols and their meanings. I don't mean to offend but it's true.

    We have to be the most evangelised, christianised, religiousised? people on the planet!:whip:, we've been truly whooped, as you americans say, and we love it. Look at church membership. We have left our own spirituality to follow one that demonises our 'god' given colour. The question really is how can we change this mindset?
     
  8. Moorfius

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    What Original Values belonged to our...Ancient Ancestors ?

    MA`AT Hotep

    In the name of all things great and powerful...and in the name of our divine ancient ancestors...we only seek the 'Truth'...O Ancestors Rise Up and Live in Us !!......AMEN.

    There is a time known to us that is before...this time of confusion / ignorance / insanity that causes one to raise the sincere questions that are a clear sign that some are now starting to "Think"...for our selves and have become a seeker in...MA`AT...for those...we "internalize" the truth when it is revealed to us and not...let it go because it has now become a part of our Spiritual Growth.

    Before the advent of the so-called white race the ancestors were not spoiled as we and (some) our brothers and sisters in so-called Africa have become...(Africa is not our name...the Ancestors did not call them selves Africa and this is un-excepted...among other things...by the Kemetic High Priest). This is the time that we must look to and understand that all of us have been spoiled by any / all contact with this "Dis-Ease" called the "White Race".

    Thousands of years ago...the ancestors observed all of the holy days in the nude! With ashes covering their bodies and no thought what so ever of Black being evil and White being Good!! So when did this foolishness start!??

    This is the question to know the answer to...we must go back to a time when we were all healthy and not sick as we all have become by our collective contact of a "Idiot-Mind" that has ruined / spoiled...every thing they have ever come in contact with concerning the "Natural World" with their "False-Ideas" and "Distorted / Ignorant / Evil and Wicket - thinking" of so-called..."White-Supremacy".

    When we call on our ancestors...it must be those of the most ancient times to eliminate the corruption of injected foolishness...hence the meaning of the word used,...Spoiled. Spoiled means..."Corruption"...before the time of Corruption...We will find the answers most certain and clear.

    So-called Africans in Amerikkkan history will take us no ware in the future...except to know it and don't repeat it in the future. Slavery is just that...nothing that we will ever want to repeat in any future time for our collective children...but we respect all of the ancestors...we are speaking of a time before 'Corruption'...a time that was 'Holy and Divine'.

    And today's so-called Africans who have allowed them selves to be as spoiled and corrupted as we...are no example for any "Liberated-Future"...from the ideas that have caused us all...to become mentally "Crazy" to our collective core by including "Racist" foolishness into our ancestors "Legacy" to our selves...their children.

    They did not teach us to do these things...some one along the line of time injected these ugly concoctions to please the savage "Invaders" for one reason or the other...and are still with us today! We must know that our ancient ancestors were not corrupt and foolish enough to pass such evil practices on to their own children / future.

    The most ancient ancestors tell us today and always..."Corruption Always Goes Down Hill" !! Now the question for the "Wise" seeker has to be...ware do one find the clear path to "MA`AT" ? If you are a true seeker...you must know that "When you take one step towards the Ancestors...the Ancestors "Run"...towards you......AMEN

    Ase`
     
  9. truetothecause

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    Greetings again wakingupnow!

    No offense taken as I have come to KNOW the same things shared by all posters here thus far. "demonizing" our "god" given color....now isn't that some ish!
    I am still amazed at times, as I was in Ghana, that "Black" is associated with all things "bad" and to be avoided smh:10500:
    Yet, WE ARE as Brother Moorfius states and your name suggest....WAKING UP NOW. One reggae artist says....."RASTA RISE AGAIN AND NOW THE BABYLON DEM IN A BIG PROBLEM AMEN FOR THEM" (Macka B). I agree with the SPIRIT driving that ENERGY.:whip:

    The folks in Ghana refer to anyone with locks as "Rasta". I did let her know however, that "Rastas" DO NOT revere a white jesus....as many Ghanaian's seem to do. In the words of another reggae artist..."BLACK IS MY COLOR IS MY COLOR IS MY COLOR, BLACK IS MY COLOR" (?)
    Stay Up!
    M.E.
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  10. Angela22

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    (I know the topic is old; just giving my views on it.)

    What can be stated is that "black" and "white" were not used to describe anybody's race until much later on in history, so there was no such thing as "black" people and "white" people; thus when black was being used for negative, and white for positive, no race of people's were offended thinking they were being singled out, and this was especially since all people further back then were indeed all similar colors of a darker hue.

    And even when they described one as black or white, it was for the darkness the skin became when the sun beat down on one of a darker hue, or because of leprosy which lightened the skin, and again, was not used for any one race of peoples.

    Since then, we have now collectively come to calling ourselves black, and those most opposite our color, white; this is not as descriptions for how dark or light, but as a race as a whole regardless of the light and dark shades on both sides. And so, the negativity that black already had becomes more of a personal insult out of people's mouth for us, and the purity white already had becomes ego building out of someone's mouth for them.

    With this, I've learned not to attach myself to the color "black" as if that's my name and entire being just because further back when some wanted to call any and everyone of a darker shade, "black" though this wasn't at first the case. This, in turn, helps me to not take anything with black being used as a negative as personal, though I know many try to make it that way because of how they view me and not according to how I view myself.

    I've none problem with using the word black or viewing the word black as a negative(spiritually or otherwise) because it, as a word, it does represent more than a person being called it(I don't really think of people like myself when I think of the word, itself). Neither have I any trouble with viewing the word white as pure(spiritually or otherwise), because it certainly goes beyond the skin color of someone who may or may not be pure.

    I guess usually, I only use the words for people as convenience so others know more specifically what I mean without saying African or European since many on both sides don't originate from there; and neither do I use Negroid or Caucasoid because I just don't believe in using such a disassociated and divisive sounding title.
     
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