I strongly do not believe in spoiling children being that I was spoiled early in my life. The topic of Black parenting or parenting in general is so misconstrued. It's all circumstantial. Depending on the number of children in the household, the upbringing of the parents, finances, enviroment, entertainment, physical reference and mony others. Some families seek counselors for guidance or rely on the wisdom of their elders. I look at it like this. We as a people in America were given two main books to base our lives on from Sunday to Monday and throughout the week. The Bible and the Koran. There is also the Torah for those who chose that path. These books as well as some of the "appointed" speakers, teachers and leaders have set guidelines for how to raise children, eat, bathe, fight, dress, make love and so on. I look to books and their authors to discipline my children. If not, you are going off of your own know-how which has been systematically altered, watered-down and passed through the GENE -erations. In conclusion, telkl 'em something once, tell 'em twice, thrice and it's time for a hand, a belt or a switch to go where the sun doesn't shine... if you know what I mean!