Pan Africanism : Socialism as a conclusion to African Nationalism/unity

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  1. African_Prince

    African_Prince Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Do you think that scientific socialism is a natural conclusion to the collectivist idealogies of African Nationalism and African unity? African Nationalism prioritizes the well being of the African Nation as a whole before the individual, how can African people unite as one nation if we are divided by class? Assata Shakur said in her autobiography that, even if African people managed to rid the Continent of White colonialists, as long as the capitalist structure remained intact, the White colonialists will simply be replaced by Black neo-colonialists. Although some people associate socialism as an international movement (or even a 'White thing') I don't think that there's any contradiction between African Nationalism (that is African economic, political, cultural and social independence from non-African people) and scientific socialism.

    The only downfall I can see in African countries adopting socialism is dishonest and corrupt governments, as opposed to distributing wealth equally among the people, using wealth for their own purposes and terrorizing dissenters. I'm beginning to think that capitalism is responsible for Western imperialism in Africa (as well as the slave trade) to begin with, African cultures are based on collectivism, not the individualism of the West.
     
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    I was under the impression that we have always had systems of government that united people divided by "class" although they did not necessarily fit the definition of what can be called an ideology.

    Could you explain African Nationalism and African Unity ideologies, and how they relate to traditional African systems of government and spirituality?
     
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    I don't understand what you mean. What I mean is that the idea of African unity is based on collectivism and because of this, we should have an economy based on the collective needs as opposed to one elite class of people with more money then they need and a lower class that can't afford the very basic necessities of life. The African Nation as a whole should be considered before the individual.

    I think African unity is self-explanatory. In my view, the tenets of African Nationalism are 1) African Pride and 2) African economic, political and cultural independence from non-African people (namely the West). In terms of spirituality, I believe that Africans should abandon Christianity and Islam and return to traditional African religions or traditional African views on spirituality (this is an example of cultural independence from non-African people). In terms of how African Nationalism relates to traditional African government, a lot of our style of government is based on the governments of former colonial powers. I don't think that traditional African monarchy (ie. kings and chiefs) are applicable in modern times but we should attempt to re-pattern our society and government with certain traditional African values. We can never completely go back to traditional pre-colonial African culture because 1) culture evolves and we don't know how African society would have evolved without European interference 2) We have to consider ourselves in an international context 3) We're better off abandoning certain archaic, traditional African customs (ie. the female genital mutilation that occures in some traditional cultures, for example)
     
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    Before I answer your question, you have to prove the desirability of African nationalism/unity. It is such a flawed concept it is not even funny. By the time we address these issues, a discussion on socialism will be moot.
     
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