Black People : <smh> No Comment? Not Important Enough? <sigh>

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  1. anAfrican

    anAfrican Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    i guess this ain't the place for much other than "happy happy joy joy"? or is there some stuff going on encoded in the poetry?

    <sigh> anybody know of anyplace where Africans are workin at building a better tomorrow? building an African Educational System? establishing African hospitals? African manufacturing plants? African transportation systems? a resurrection of "Black Wallstreet"?

    oops!! i'm sorry; did i say "African"? did that turn all these "African Americans vs Continental Africans vs Carribean Africans vs South American Africans vs Northern Africans vs Southern Africans" off? did the "AAs" jump up and down screaming "what about us over here?! let them keep killing each other!"?

    let's bring this one back, this time, in it's entirety! it's a shame that this worked so well! it's even more of a shame that "they" don't have to work at this stuff anymore: the oppression has now been thoroughly internalized! now YOU do the work for them!


    This Document is Exhibit 10 of U.S. Supreme Court Case No.00-9587


    NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL MEMORANDUM-46

    MARCH 17, 1978

    Presidential Review Memorandum NSCM/46
    TO: The Secretary of State
    The Secretary of Defense
    The Director of Central Intelligence

    SUBJECT: Black Africa and the U.S. Black Movement

    The President has directed that a comprehensive review be made of current developments in Black Africa from the point of view of their possible impacts on the black movement in the United States. The review should consider:

    1. Long-term tendencies of social and political developments and the degree to which they are consistent with or contradict the U.S. interests.

    2. Proposals for durable contacts between radical African leaders and leftist leaders of the U.S. black community.

    3. Appropriate steps to be taken inside and outside the country in order to inhibit any pressure by radical African leaders and organizations on the U.S. black community for the latter to exert influence on the policy of the Administration toward Africa.


    The President has directed that the NSC Interdepartmental Group for Africa perform this review. The review should be forwarded to the NSC Political Analysis Committee by April 20.

    (signed)

    Zbigniew Brezinski

    cc: The Secretary of the Treasury
    The Secretary of Commerce
    The Attorney General
    The Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff

    NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL
    INTERDEPARTMENTAL GROUP
    FOR AFRICA

    STUDY RESPONSE TO PRESIDENTIAL SECURITY
    REVIEW MEMORANDUM NSC-46
    BLACK AFRICA AND THE
    U.S. BLACK MOVEMENT

    Objective of our policy toward Black Africa is to prevent social upheavals which could radically change the political situation throughout the area. The success or failure of our policy in the region depends on the solution international and internal issues whose importance of the United States is on the increase.

    II. A. U.S. INTERESTS IN BLACK AFRICA

    A multiplicity of interests influences the U.S. attitude toward black Africa. The most important of these interests can be summarized as follows:

    1. POLITICAL
    If black African states assume attitudes hostile to the U.S. national interest, our policy toward the white regimes; which is a key element in our relations with the black states, may be subjected by the latter to great pressure for fundamental change. Thus the West may face a real danger of being deprived of access to the enormous raw material resources of southern Africa which are viral for our defense needs as well as losing control over the Cape sea routes by which approximately 65% of Middle Eastern oil is supplied to Western Europe.

    Moreover, such a development may bring about internal political difficulties by intensifying the activity of the black movement in the United States itself.

    It should also be borne in mind that black Africa is an integral part of a continent where tribal and regional discord, economic backwardness, inadequate infrastructures, drought, and famine, are constant features of the scene. In conjunction with the artificial borders imposed by the former colonial powers, guerilla warfare in Rhodesia and widespread indignation against apartheid in South Africa, the above factors provide the communist states with ample opportunities for furthering their aims. This must necessarily redound to the detriment of U.S. political interests.

    2. ECONOMIC
    Black Africa is increasingly becoming an outlet for U.S. exports and investment. The mineral resources of the area continue to be of great value for the normal functioning of industry in the United States and allied countries. In 1977, U.S. direct investment in black Africa totaled about $1.8 billion and exports $2.2 billion. New prospect of substantial profits would continue to develop in the countries concerned.

    IV. BLACK AFRICA AND THE U.S. BLACK MOVEMENT

    Apart from the above-mentioned factors adverse to U.S. strategic interests, the nationalist liberation movement in black Africa can act as a catalyst with far reaching effects on the American black community by stimulating its organizational consolidation and by inducing radical actions. Such a result would be likely as Zaire went the way of Angola and Mozambique.

    An occurrence of the events of 1967-68 would do grievous harm to U.S. prestige, especially in view of the concern of the present Administration with human rights issues. Moreover, the Administration would have to take specific steps to stabilize the situation. Such steps might be misunderstood both inside and outside the United States.

    In order to prevent such a trend and protect U.S. national security interests, it would appear essential to elaborate and carry out effective countermeasures.

    1. Possibility of Joint Action By U.S. Black and African Nationalist Movement.

    In elaborating U.S. policy toward black Africa, due weight must be given to the fact that there are 25 millions American blacks whose roots are African and who consciously or subconsciously sympathies with African nationalism.

    The living conditions of the black population should also be taken into account. Immense advances in the field are accompanied by a long-lasting high rate of unemployment, especially among the youth and by poverty and dissatisfaction with government social welfare standards.

    These factors taken together may provide a basis for joint actions of a concrete nature by the African nationalist movement and the U.S. black community. Basically, actions would take the form of demonstrations and public protests, but the likelihood of violence cannot be excluded. There would also be attempts to coordinate their political activity both locally and in
    international organizations.

    Inside the United States these actions could include protest demonstrations against our policy toward South Africa accompanied by demand for boycotting corporations and banks which maintain links with that country; attempts to establish a permanent black lobby in Congress including activist leftist radical groups and black legislators; the reemergence of Pan-African ideals; resumption of protest marches recalling the days of Martin Luther King; renewal of the extremist idea national idea of establishing an "African Republic" on American soil. Finally, leftist radical elements of the black community could resume extremist actions in the style of the defunct Black Panther Party.

    Internationally, damage could be done to the United States by coordinated activity of African states designed to condemn U.S. policy toward South Africa, and initiate discussions on the U.S. racial issue at the United Nations where the African representation constitutes a powerful bloc with about one third of all the votes.

    A menace to U.S. economic interests, though not a critical one, could be posed by a boycott by Black African states against American companies which maintain contact with South Africa and Rhodesia. If the idea of economic assistance to black Americans shared by some African regimes could be realized by their placing orders in the United States mainly with companies owned by blacks, they could gain a limited influence on the U.S. black community.

    In the above context, we must envisage the possibility, however remote, that black Americans interested in African affairs may refocus their attention on the Arab-Israeli conflict. Taking into account; the African descent of American blacks it is reasonable to anticipate that their sympathies would lie with the Arabs who are closer to them in spirit and in some case related to them by blood. Black involvement in lobbying to support the Arabs may lead to serious dissention between American black and Jews. The likelihood of extremist actions by either side is negligible, but the discord may bring about tension in the internal political climate of the United States.

    3. Political options

    In the context of long-term strategy, the United States can not afford a radical change in the fundamentals of its African policy, which is designed for maximum protection of national security. In the present case, emphasis is laid on the importance of Black Africa for U.S. political, economic and military interests.

    RECOMMENDATIONS

    In weighing the range of U.S. interests in Black Africa, basic recommendations arranged without intent to imply priority are:
    1. Specific steps should be taken with the help of appropriate government agencies to inhibit coordinated activity of the Black Movement in the United States.

    2. Special clandestine operations should be launched by the CIA to generate mistrust and hostility in American and world opinion against joint activity of the two forces, and to cause division among Black African radical national groups and their leaders.

    3. U.S. embassies to Black African countries specially interested in southern Africa must be highly circumspect in view of the activity of certain political circles and influential individuals opposing the objectives and methods of U.S. policy toward South Africa. It must be kept in mind that the failure of U.S. strategy in South Africa would adversely affect American standing throughout the world. In addition, this would mean a significant diminution of U.S. influence in Africa and the emergence of new difficulties in our internal situation due to worsening economic prospects.

    4. The FBI should mount surveillance operations against Black African representatives and collect sensitive information on those, especially at the U.N., who oppose U.S. policy toward South Africa. The information should include facts on their links with the leaders of the Black movement in the United States, thus making possible at least partial neutralization of the adverse effects of their activity.

    V. TRENDS IN THE AMERICAN BLACK MOVEMENT

    In connection with our African policy, it is highly important to evaluate correctly the present state of the Black movement in the Untied States and basing ourselves on all available information, to try to devise a course for its future development. Such an approach is strongly suggested by our perception of the fact that American Blacks form a single ethnic group potentially capable of causing extreme instability in our strategy toward South Africa. This may lead to critical differences between the United States and Black Africa in particular. It would also encourage the Soviet Union to step up its interference in the region. Finally, it would pose a serious threat to the delicate structure of race relations within the United States. All the above considerations give rise to concern for the future security of the United States.

    Since the mid-1960s, when legislation on the human rights was passed and Martin Luther King murdered, federal and local measures to improve black welfare have been taken, as a result of which the U.S. black movement has undergone considerable changes.

    The principle changes are as follows:

    *Social and economic issues have supplanted political aims as the main preoccupations of the movement. and actions formerly planned on a nationwide scale are now being organized locally.

    *Fragmentation and a lack of organizational unity within the movement.

    *Sharp social stratification of the Black population and lack of policy options which could reunite them.

    *Want of a national leader of standing comparable to Martin Luther King.

    B. THE RANGE OF POLICY OPTIONS

    The concern for the future security of the United States makes necessary the range of policy options. Arranged without intent imply priority they are:

    (a) to enlarge programs, within the framework of the present budget, for the improvement of the social and economic welfare of American Blacks in order to ensure continuing development of present trends in the Black movement;

    (b) to elaborate and bring into effect a special program designed to perpetuate division in the Black movement and neutralize the most active groups of leftist radical organizations representing different social strata of the Black community: to encourage division in Black circles;

    (c) to preserve the present climate which inhibits the emergence from within the Black leadership of a person capable of exerting nationwide appeal;

    (d) to work out and realize preventive operations in order to impede durable ties between U.S Black organizations and radical groups in African states;

    (e) to support actions designed to sharpen social stratification in the Black community which would lead to the widening and perpetuation of the gap between successful educated Blacks and the poor, giving rise to growing antagonism between different Black groups and a weakening of the movement as a whole.

    (f) to facilitate the greatest possible expansion of Black business by granting government contracts and loans with favorable terms to Black businessmen;

    (g) to take every possible means through the AFL-CIO leaders to counteract the increasing influence of Black labor organizations which function in all major unions and in particular, the National Coalition of Black Trade Union and its leadership including the creation of real preference for adverse and hostile reaction among White trade unionists to demands for improvement of social and economic welfare of the Blacks;

    (h) to support the nomination at federal and local levels of loyal Black public figures to elective offices, to government agencies and the Court.

    This would promote the achievement of a twofold purpose:

    first, it would be easier to control the activity of loyal black representatives within existing institution;

    second, the idea of an independent black political party now under dicussion within black leadership circles would soon lose all support.
     
  2. Ms_MochaB

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    YOU SEEM ANGRY
     
  3. anAfrican

    anAfrican Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    nah, i passed "angry" a long time ago! full blown "explosion in motion"! 'sides; ain't the mess worthy of being, at the very least, "angry" over?
     
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    Bro anAfrican, our people are not ready yet. You've got to just accept that and not stress yourself much about it. It's just obvious to me that not enough of us have evolved to the point of action yet. Being angry is not going to speed up that evolution.

    We may not evolve to the point of action in our lifetimes. I've accepted that. Find ways to enjoy yourself and you will be healthier and live longer.
     
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    anAfrican Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    "Standard of Excellence" not desired? <shudder>

    what's to "enjoy"? why live longer? what "live"? i will not accept a "standard of mediocrity", nor a "standard of just getting by". ... <sigh> guess maybe i might just be "not Black enough", after all ...

    anAfrican - a Tribe of One
     
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    They have definetaly set us off of course with our revolution, it worked so **** well that many of our own do not care for it today.
     
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    No need to get discouraged...


    Riada, I love your spirit! I've noticed on many threads here.

    I wouldn't say though the threads here reflect the readiness of our people for action, just the readiness of the leadership here to sustain action.

    Action is not the mission of this site, and when we fail to understand that we create conflict. By pushing for action, we are in fact pushing against what the sites owner and moderators have as their mission, which is to maintain this site, not "build skyscrapers."

    The site is about discussion, so we just need to discuss on a more civilized plane with each other.

    The action-oriented folks will hook up and do one way or the other, you just won't see it organized through this site.
     
  8. Isaiah

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    I'm with you, brother KemetKind, the sister has always blazed her own trail up in here, and you should read some of those relationship threads with her going to battle for womankind... CLASSICS!(smile!)

    But one think I'm worried about is our attitudes up in this, and a lot of other threads... We hang our heads too easy... We don't dig no resistance, and the Chinese say resistance is greater than non-resistance because ease and comfort make one weak and lethargic... Even our ancestors said, "if it don't kill ya, make ya stronger..." That is why we are here today, because our ancestors took White Man's resistance, and built their own... White man gave us a safety net(Aid to Families with Dependent Children), and we went to sleep on ourselves...

    We CAINT be saying that we are not ready... We must NEVER admit defeat like that... Else, it aint the arguing white man wanna see, it's the lack of an argument he is most happy with... Because that would denote a people who've lost that fighting spirit... People who are lethargic and uncaring have largely been defeatedlll Their spirit done been broken and shattered into a thousand little piece, and they whipped... That platinum thread demonstrates for me that we are not a whipped people, sittin' on the stool with a towel over our heads... It demonstrates for me that we are fighters, and we've still got energy to come out for the fifteenth round... Else, none of us would still be up in here talking to one another...

    We need to go back to that platinum thread, and continue to hash out our plan, even if it grows to a thousand posts on the subject... There's no limit on how long we can talk to get a plan together, and work that plan... But what we need are guildlines, and one of those guidelines must be that people have got to keep their politics, religion, and philosophies under their belt, and bring it out at another meeting - the appropriate meeting, or wherever people of their stated philosophy or political perspective meet...

    Destee asked us if we could come together RESPECTFULLY, as I recall... Therefore, it was disrespectful of us to haul out our political perspectives, our religious perspectives, and our philosophical perspectives in an atmosphere where we want to discuss family BUSINESS... If we're putting together a proposal and prospectus for our business loan, would be begin telling the lender, that we are Christians and muslims and rosicrucanists, therefore the lender must be one for us to do business with him or her???

    Of course, no guidelines were set for our coming together, and that's why we went to wearing our STUFF on our chests, and telling one another what we is and what we aint gone tolerate from one another... GUIDELINES are needed for our coming together, and those who bring their baggage past the borders of those guidelines need to be asked to RESPECTFULLY honor our guildelines, or LEAVE the discussion - period! All in favor say I so this person can get their stuff and get out... Cant be letting one or two or five folks hi-jack a discussion between 100...

    Lastly, perhaps we need stronger moderation, or a person who is willing to accept the mantle of leadership on this... Again, we need to democratically elect our leaders as we would a board of trustees or an executive board, and delegate responsibilities to all who want to participate - just as in the men of destee's... We can do a poll right here at the board, and whomever is elected to their respective offices should honorably accept, and be honarably accepted as the leaders democratically chosen...

    Off the top of my head, I can think of a number of folks whom I think would make wonderful leaders for such a project, and here goes...

    Brother KemetKind

    Brother Omowale

    Sister Riada

    Sister Karmashines

    Sister River

    Sister Destee

    Brother Pan Africa

    Brother Radical

    Brother JamesFrmPhilly

    Brother AnAfrican

    Brother OldSoul

    Sister PDiane

    Now, that is off the top of my head, and in no particular order... If we want to add others, we can and should... But let's begin the process of electing our OWN LEADERS here and now... Let this executive board get together and set the guidelines, and give us structure... If one wants, then, to operate outside of our agreed-upon structure, they must respectfully LEAVE THE PREMISES, and that includes the leaders themselves... How about it, yawl???
     
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    I think people can make of the board what they want.

    The best thing to do is to start threads promoting action; this is what I've done, and I've received interesting ideas/input.
     
  10. Riada

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    Brudda, I'm a fighter by nature and so are you. That's why I sometimes try to calm you down and you do that for me too.

    I'm working hard here to tone myself down in this new year, :huh: and keep the peace, but sometimes I still slip and start fighting back again. I don't want to fight back if others don't want to, because none of us is going to win ALONE.

    I will always fight for myself and those close to me, but it just seems that the masses of our people are too laid back. I don't understand why they're so scared. We don almost lost everything of value here anyway--and now our children are going down the drain like water.

    Some of our folks seem to want to disrespect and insult in all kinds of ways and think you're too dumb to know it. I just try to leave people like that alone because eventually we'll take each other out.
     
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