Black People : SLAVERY

[Mr Jim]

The title is always an attention getter. To begin with, anything that strips dignity from a human being is wrong; there are no grey areas. That being said, slavery has existed since before recorded history. In the USA proper, slavery only existed for 77 years. I am only trying to present facts; not to condone the existence of slavery in the USA. In the Americas, blacks were far from alone when it came to being enslaved. The British treated the Irish like human cattle; and they were often treated worse than black slaves. The reason being, black slaves were not tainted with Catholicism. A black slave cost 50 sterling; an Irish slave cost 5 sterling. If an Irish slave was beaten to death, it was just a monetary loss; but not as expensive as losing a black slave. Many people will use the term "indentured servant" when describing the Irish, but history proves otherwise. 10 & 12 year old Irish & Scottish children were taken by the thousands & sold to British growers in the Caribbean. A child has no idea what indentured servitude means. They were simply slaves. The reason there are so many Caribbean blacks with Irish names. Like Bob Marley. I'm moving slowly on this; and I'll return soon. Feel free to comment. Jim

 

[Senegal]

True. Slavery has always existed. The word slave comes to us from what whites did to the Slavic people however, thats not what slavery in the US was about. The slavery in the US was specifically chattel slavery. There is a enormous difference between not having any rights as a human, having your children and their childrens children inherit your status and having to work off a debt. Its not the same thing at all. Its not even remotely close to being in the same ball park.

 

[Mr Jim]

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers. These people had no more rights than a black slave. The British growers even resorted to breeding the Irish & blacks to increase the slave population. The Irish were slaves for life; same as blacks. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master’s free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude.

 

[Senegal]

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers. These people had no more rights than a black slave. The British growers even resorted to breeding the Irish & blacks to increase the slave population. The Irish were slaves for life; same as blacks.

" The Irish were slaves for life; same as blacks. "

Did you make that up or do you have some legitimate supporting documentation? Note that I stress the word "legitimate".

The “Irish slave” myth has been widely discredited

The myth is based on a misunderstanding of indentured servitude.

fullfact.org

" Several publications note that, in recent years, the Irish slave myth has become a popular tool used by white supremacists to discredit the experiences of black people. Again, speaking to the Southern Poverty Law Centrein 2016, Hogan said: “Why is it used so often to justify anti-black nativism and racism? The sentiment is we were slaves, too, but we moved on, and it speaks to the racist essence of white nationalism.” "

 

[Mr Jim]

" The Irish were slaves for life; same as blacks. "

Did you make that up or do you have some legitimate supporting documentation.


I'm not looking for a pissin contest; I'm just trying to present information from several researchers. It seems like any information concerning black slavery is considered Gospel; but anything on white slavery is always questionable. That raises flags. Something that is well documented is, during the period of slavery in the USA, Irish laborers were used for work too dangerous for expensive black slaves.