Black People : Slavery -> Katrina -> Detroit ... When Will We Be Able To Save Ourselves?

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  1. Destee

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    Peace and Blessings Family,

    I remember all of the noise regarding Katrina, how the government responded so slow ... black people dying, starving, living in terrible conditions for days. Everyone was up in arms about why the government didn't hurry up and save the majority black people that were not able to flee.

    Even then I wondered why don't we have our own "FEMA" or something, organized, that can come in during these chaotic times and help our own people.

    Now here we are again ... Detroit ... folk thirsty ... economic depravity .... and there's no black organization taking the lead, helping these black folk. Instead, we're crying and begging for the same people that have repeatedly shown us that they don't care about us like we think they should ... yet we continue to beg them.

    We continue to fail to prepare for our own selves and our own people.

    There will be another catastrophe ... i promise ... and we'll probably be as prepared then as we are now ... perhaps even less so ... for few are even talking about how we can fix our own problems, take care of our own people, give our own folk a tall glass of cold water ... nope ... most are looking to someone else, outside of us, to fix this. They say we spend billions a year collectively ... but there aint one collective nickel if anyone is hungry, starving, homeless, sick ... none of that.

    Is this the long term cost of remaining with one's captors ... depending on them completely for survival? Teaching the children to do the same? Never creating anything substantive to save the collective, because our captors will do it?

    Who does this in real life?

    What's wrong with us?

    Why isn't there more evidence of all this unity i hear folk talking about?

    Are we begging in unison ... we are often unified about that, based on the discussions.

    I just don't get it.

    It's like being in an abusive relationship ... the man beats you ... you cry about how low down he is ... and then go right back to him 'cause he gave you a bauble or two ... and guess what ... he beats you again ... repeating the vicious cycle over and over ... never preparing to leave ... never leaving ... never breaking free.

    I don't get it ... i really don't ... especially with so many forward thinking folk present.

    I guess we'll be up in arms again soon ... for another catastrophe is sure to come.

    Obviously ... economic depravity, homelessness, hurricanes, slavery, murders, death, prisons, no jobs, hunger, and now no water ... aint no 'nuff to move us to look out for our own selves. I heard someone say years ago, that the skin will be dripping from our bodies, and we still won't move.

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  2. Major Tubbs

    Major Tubbs Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    We really need to work together more, and help one another.
    When we have stores or any other Business we should spend out monies there, try and employ one another etc..
     
  3. Destee

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    Yeah ... tell me about it ... folk talk the talk, but they won't walk the walk.

    And when they get called out on it ... they get quiet and act like you hurt their feelings.

    Give 'em a minute, they'll get over it - and point at someone else to shoulder the responsibility.

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  4. Keita Kenyatta

    Keita Kenyatta going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Well Sis, it's like this. I know I've been digging in some grippers around here about the 425 BILLION dollars that our people have given to the MAKE ME RICH MINISTERS....and I'm troubled over the idea that our spending power that we will give back to YT people will be a TRILLION DOLLARS in 2015. What does this tell me? It tells me that we don't need anybody for anything. We don't need no reparations, no hand outs, no government programs or anything else. It tells me that we have been following the classic definition of insanity, which is "doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results".

    We have begged the government since 1865. We have begged God even longer. We have relied upon so called leaders who didn't all work in our best interest. We have sung, we done marched, we done cried and pretty much did everything but to stand on our own two feet and recognize the reflection of each other in each other. There have been those of us who have labored to get the history out to our people so that they could think and reason for themselves. There have been those of us who have reached into every level of information as it regards our people and the world around us...but obviously the healing that will allow us to live as a whole people just hasn't happened as of yet while time is running out quickly.

    Until those of us who regard ourselves as ADULTS, as PARENTS and as LEADERS actually begin to be so, there really is no hope for us on a collective level. As individuals there will always be those of us who will hear and change, who will recognize and adapt, who will do what needs to be done for their own selves...and in the end, that's all it will ever be.

    I don't feel as I used to or think as I once did as it regards what's going on concerning us as a people. I just don't have the energy for that kind of stress anymore. As the ole saying goes; You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink, is something that applies to so many of our people that it is too sad to even think about. We have always had everything that we needed within our own selves and our own communities but our conditioning and programming just won't allow us to see it. Then when the idea that we are conditioned and programmed is even presented to us, we act as if that don't apply to us or that it just can't be true....with the end result being that "nothing has changed" and nothing will change until we become thinkers instead of imitators, builders instead of spenders and teachers instead of paycheck collectors.

    People think that I have a problem with religion, which I don't....but when I hear people professing all this belief and faith that they have, I only have one question; "SHOW ME THAT YOU BELIEVE IN GOD", which never ever happens individually or collectively in the so called institutions that take the most money from us but give very little if any back. How long must we tarry before we say that the B.S. stops here and now?
     
  5. Destee

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    Brother Keita ... i agree with you. I too am tired now. I came into this community with high hopes, tail wagging, just knew it would be a success because my people would join in and help and we'd have our own place and grow and prosper and all kinda stuff ... high high hopes ... that was 16 years ago and it's morphed into ... if you want it destee, you gotta do it by yourself (of course i'm not counting our few Premium Members and Moderators).

    It's sad, but i gotta keep hope alive ... that maybe we can manifest our collective greatness.

    If not here ... somewhere ... anywhere.

    But i aint hold'n my breath. I aint lose'n sleep over it anymore. I can only hope that the babies coming behind us, will be able to do what we could not, even though they have no real leadership, examples, or guides. That's gonna be a lot for them to do, but ... well ... it just is what it is.

    We need to be apologizing to the babies right now, for dropping the ball.

    I'm agreeing with you Brother Keita ... and i don't do that too regular ... :love:

    Love You!

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    It is called branwashing. People, human nature, is based on culture and culture frames what people do and do not do together. Those with a culture work together, evidenced by 30 thousand years of African civilization broken only by a period of 500 years. However right after slavery we did for self during reconstruction, people had their own wells back then and community pumps, and back then the government would not sieze those things as they do today.
    Collective work and presonsibility was a pardigm and somewhat coming to fruition from the Black Power and Afrocentric Movments. The Black Panrther Party for Self Defense before COINTELPRO infiltration were on the way to creating ambulance service sin each major city, but h one thing that was a pardigm, to discourage the desire for collective effort, and the desire to work together for the betterment of the common good and the community , was the COINTELPRO., tampering with the music! http://destee.com/index.php?threads...we-controled-the-paradigm-of-our-youth.69783/
     
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    Until the youth create a new paradigm, there will be no internal desire of collective progress as there was before this mass brainwashing!
     
  8. Destee

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    Yeah ... i hear you Brother, and i'm aware of the traps and snares laid for us.

    But this is 2014. We can't keep pointing to Africa 30 thousand years ago (only), or even the Black Panther Panther Party for Self Defense ... or even cointelpro. It's a new day, a new game, and we're losing. Most of our babies know nothing of those things, and don't really care as they have no noticeable relevance to today. They need successes. They need jobs. They need help. They need love. They need encouragement ... they need so many things that are not being provided to them by us.

    We need something current on the table to point to ... we don't have it ... and it's our own fault.

    Who loses at chess and never tries to win again ... pointing at successes of old, talk'n about who cheated and won long ago ... those games are over.

    Can we win a game now ... a set ... a hand ... a match ... anything ... today?

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  9. Kadijah

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    Slavery - black men fought in the Civil War and Harriet Tubman ran reconnaissance in that same war.

    Katrina - UNSUNG black heroes all over the place. Brother I know drove from another state, borrowed a boat from a friend near ground zero, then took it out and PERSONALLY rescued people off rooftops.

    Detroit - people not paying their bills when I pay mine is nothing that calls for "collective" action.

    As for doing the same things over and over constituting insanity, then assimilationists are crazy as a june bug. To say we should do for collective self by setting up a PRIVATE NATION within the U.S. and pay TAXES to both, is unrealistic. To say black Americans give 425 Billion dollars to MAKE ME RICH MINISTERS is not only a lie, it's blasphemy.
     
  10. Destee

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    I guess putting the responsibility on the youth is a strategy.

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