Health and Wellness : Skinny People with Diabetes and High Blood Pressure ?

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  1. Destee

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    Peace and Blessings Family,

    I'm seeing more and more skinny people with chronic diabetes and high blood pressure.

    I thot that these were conditions found primarily in overweight or obese people?

    What's up with more and more of the folk i see, with chronic bouts of these ailments, being skinny!?

    I saw a Brother recently who had to have his legs amputated due to diabetes, and he's never been overweight.

    I don't personally suffer from either of these, so i don't have any first hand experience, but i've always heard that diet and exercise were ways to treat them ... as if weight is a considerable factor in getting or keeping them?

    What's up with this?

    Have i simply misunderstood all of this time?

    Thanks in advance for any inisght.

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    :) fruits, nuts, grains and vegetables……….
     
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    its a misunderstanding. lots of folks think as long as they're not fat, they can eat what ever they want, whenever they want... they are mistaken. I know a skinny little kid with high blood pressure.. he's a friend of my son.. a few years ago he was having problems with this kid at school so we invited him and his mother over.. and made them our friends.. she was single.. section 8ed up.. mama and cousins sleeping on the floor of the living room.. the whole-ghetto-nine.. but she was nice and you could see that that's just how she came up. So we folded her into our family.. became part of her support group.. took her son with us places.. he'd spend the night.. etc..

    we found out that his mom didn't cook... not ever.. he lived on microwaved food.. mostly chicken nuggets.. he didn't even know how to use a fork.. we had to show him how to use a fork and knife.. he had been eating finger foods his whole life.. pizza, burgers, nuggets, fries... mcdonalds.. taco bell.. etc.. he didn't eat vegetables..didn't know the names of many vegetables.. and he didn't get fruit at home.. just fried and microwaved.. and cheesy.. and processed sweets.. Hi fructose corn syrup laden sweets... and his body was rejecting that diet big time.. He had high blood pressure at 8 years old.. skin problems.. emotional problems.. dental problems.. etc.. and even with all of that, he was an extremely intelligent kid.. his mom was the dummy. I explained to her.. gently.. that she had to start cooking.. and that his health problems had to do with his diet.. but she was pregnant with another kid and working at walmart.. and taking care of her whole family with her section 8 and her walmart check.. her mother never cooked for her either.. just on holidays.. and so she didn't know what to do.. It was so sad.. eventually she began to cook little things here and there.. I gave her some simple recipes of the stuff he liked at my house.. chicken vegetable soup was his favorite.. she was suprised that he ate the vegetables.. and a couple of years later, his father moved back from Florida and helped her with his kids.. the last time I saw the kid he was with his father looking happy and strong.. but those health problems will probably persist the rest of his life.

    diet diet diet.. if it's not something a human being can crack open and eat without fire.. then it's not meant for human consumption. Doesnt mean you can't eat other things.. you can eat whatever you want.. but you should understand that their will be consequences. Everything meant for us to eat is edible in it's raw form and attractive to the eye. A man cannot just walk up and bite into a cow.. or a pig.. or a chicken.. your teeth are not sharp enough.. thats why you have to bake and boil and fry it for so long first.. it's not meant for human consumption.. and digesting that food leans too hard on your immune system.. motivated by profits, the government and the food industry has lied to the public about dam near everything related to nutrition. One of the first things people hear from the doctors when they get sick is to change their diet. The whole.. `this is bad for you but don't stop eating it.. just eat less of it`.. idea is bull''''. If it's bad.. dont eat any of it.. ever.. don't add sugar to your foods.. don't add salt to your foods.. learn to cook using the natural flavors of your ingredients.
     
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    Sodium, fried food, high fructose corn syrup, processed foods laden with preservatives and artificial flavoring and coloring. Fast foods full of nitrates. Proper diet and exercise are key. As a diabetic I know. But obesity is only one risk factor. Family history can be a determinant. Age. Ethnicity. Smoking. Now the last one is what gets a lot of thin people because smoking elevates the blood pressure which can and does elevate blood sugar level. I cut my risk factor soon as soon as I stopped smoking two years ago. Stress is another risk factor. Working in a toxic work environment. The list goes on.
     
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    I went two weeks no fast food, walking 3-5 miles each morning, detoxing, no meat except fish, increased intake of antioxidants and lost 6 pounds from 242 to 236 and lowered blood sugar from plus 300 to under 160.

    The past week I changed work schedule, changed workout to minimal, started eating fast food again and gained 4 pounds, blood sugar elevated again to over 300 and mobility in my right knee has become impaired due to over exertion.

    It's a constant battle. The one thing that spiked my levels the most was store bought fried chicken. Stupid me. 21 days of detoxing and one day of fried chicken nearly kills me.
     
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    The fact that your body physically reacts to emotional stress is such a slept-on point. The implications are far reaching.. that means,the way you think about something can adversely affect your physical body.. and the flip side is also true.. you can also affect positively affect your physical body by the way you think. So making someone feel bad about themselves is an act of violence. Insulting someone.. bullying someone.. are acts of violence. And constantly feeling insulted will manifest itself in your physical body. Watching the news.. TV.. and the constant assault against us in the media is bad for your physical body. Looks like consciousness in general can adversely affect your health.. especially if you are frustrated by not being able to do anything about whats going on..

    I see that as a truly profound concept that can change a persons entire disposition. It's even more reason to work on yourself and your attitude.. and to stay out of needless drama.. etc.
     
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    Brother skuderjames,

    Your points are well taken. Before I started detoxing three weeks ago my blood sugar had spiked and it was a mystery because I had begun making some changes you suggest. However, my problem became elevated blood sugar from eating too much fruit with high glycemic index such as oranges and melons. I decided to change my strategy and focus more on lowering blood pressure. This means I started eating more RAW veggies. Nuts for protein. Only fruit I eat at the moment are high in anti oxidants such as cherries, berries and some apples for fiber. I know people half my age and weight with higher levels because they eat foods high in triglycerides. One more thing. I had to give up ginger ale and Arizona iced tea. Too much HFCS.
     
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    being surrounded by temptation is a real problem.. I find the Grocery store to be an obstacle more than anything else. More and more I'm shopping at Produce markets and Fish markets directly.. and avoiding the grocery stores altogether. It's hard but their is some satisfaction in knowing that I'm doing the right thing.. most of the time.
    But man.. ignorance was bliss.. but I swear I fear having a stroke more than I do death.. losing the ability to read.. or to talk.. or access to the use of my brain.. or some other part of me scares the sh'' out of me..
     
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    Exactly, which helps to explain why I have been absent here recently. Trying to avoid negativity and useless debate. More importantly. Going to bed earlier when I get home from work. Less time on the pc and tv. I recently loss a good friend to renal failure. That was another wake up. One thing I forgot to mention is that when I last went to the hospital in January a doctor gave me a nutrition plan that stated repeatedly to avoid coffee. Every day when I take my break at work I am surrounded by younger people of all nationalities who at break are drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes. I think back to when that was also my diet. Coffee and cigarettes. Thank GOD at least I turned the page on that chapter. Now if only I could avoid the diet soda, chips, cookies and Subway.
     
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    yeah.. I just do water.. and teas.. and coffee.. and wine.. use the blender alot.. I still gotta get my diet straight.. to this point it has been about what I'm not eating.. I gotta take a closer look at the combinations of things that I am eating.. I think I eat melons and bananas too much.. Ice cream is my problem now..
     
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