Black Christians : SINOLOGY-A Study of CHINA & the East

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    SINOLOGY-- A Study of CHINA & the East
    Are We Born in Sin?


    And I will pour my fury upon Sin, the strength of Egypt; and I will cut off the
    multitude of No.

    And I will set fire in Egypt: Sin shall have great pain, and No shall be rent
    asunder, and Noph shall have distresses daily.
    EZEKIEL 30:15-16.

    Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the
    west; and these from the land of Sinim.
    ISAIAH 49:12.

    And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
    And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a
    plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
    GENESIS 11:1-2.​

    *No [On; reverse script; or Heliopolis, a city in ancient Egypt], Noph [Phon; reverse script; or Phoenicia (North Africa)].
    The original inhabitants of Egypt and North Africa of whom later became apart of the system of ‘the people of Sin’:
    Sin, in reference to ancient Asiatics who later dominated Egypt and other lands in and around Africa.


    According to the Bible, the world’s most powerful governments that we are subjected to today comes from the east and eastern pagan cultures. The white world power structure that dominates the world today has been based upon ancient eastern origins and today, we have been mis-educated and thus mis-led to believe that these origins are in Europe. Long before even the Roman government formed to become an empire government that influenced the whole world, Africa and the whole of the land of Ham was completely subdued and dominated by the east. Today America would be no less defined as ‘an eastern styled system’ because white people originated from the east, the land of Sin. This was the whole basis for their worship and observance of EASTER and was the basis behind why the Romans changed the Hebrew observances of PASSOVER from the autumn to the spring. They fused their ancient worship of Easter and their ancient ritual sacrifices such as the rams with the Crucifixion of the very Ram; the Lamb of God. So today, we celebrate the Crucifixion of Jesus during a season and time when he was actually born. The descendants of Ham’s supreme symbolism in which they associate themselves with and identify by are rams; KHNUM. And because the Hebrew Israelite origins are also Hamitic through the matrilineal inheritance, they also identify by this amazing WOOLY animal; the Ram [lambs]. Abram [Ab-Ram; father AbraHam], yes!--was part Semitic and part RAM [Hamitic], born in the land of Cush-Ham in Ur of the Chaldees [Chaldeans] of which would be present-day Iraq.

    The very definition of the name ‘Ham’ [Cham] carries significant meanings, one of which would be ‘WEST’, more specifically ‘Southwest’. Hotlands. Hammer. Smiter… Yes. The descendants of Ham inherited the southwestern lands of this earth and this was ordained byway of the high priest of the earth; Noah. Yet, the very ideology of the Eastern peoples that journeyed from the east to the west was detailed based upon their ancient EASTER observances. Hindsight becomes the teacher today though. The very practice of implanting Easter Eggs, fertilized Easter eggs, in hidden areas in the west represents the ‘Serpent’s eggs’ placed everywhere in the lands of Ham and why? Deception. And why the need for deception?

    The Bible clearly delineates the very time period that early eastern people’s left off from their eastern lands and headed westwards to the lands of Ham with the express purpose to deceive:

    The Temple of An [I.e. Nimrud]

    And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them
    throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

    And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may
    reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad
    upon the face of the whole earth.
    GENESIS 11:3-4.​

    In order to understand the incredible way the Bible has been written to disclose astounding facts with marked detail, a scientific approach becomes vital. The Bible clearly reveals that this westward push byway of certain Eastern cultures happened during a time when ‘brick technology’ was practiced. Therefore, we know it was way after the Stone Age and a time when civlizations were forming as the result of the innovations of the ancient Sumerians [Cush Ham] in the land of Mesopotamia. That would mean that the time period had to be around the 2200s BC or thereabouts. And this information leads to much more revelations as well. We know from the Bible and many other books as well that long before this time period there were many other more ancient civilizations that had formed thousands of years prior. Therefore more research reveals that not only did a concentrated wave of eastern people develop an eastern culture and later many left off and came to the west with the purpose to dominate and subdue, but this was a repeat behavior. Yes. Deception abounded in the lands of the west.

    Long before the descendants of Ham inherited these lands of the west, this part of the world belonged to pre-flood civilizations of people that identified by the same or similar name as the post-flood Hamites; Kemet. It was known too, as the land of Seth [South; Suti, Seti…Sith ‘This’ (reverse script)…Southworld people]. And they all identified with KHNUM; THE RAM. So what happened to these earlier Black, wooly haired people that lived in these earlier extensive civilizations? What happened to the civilizations of people that built up the massive stone pyramids of the Old Pyramid Age? What happened to the ancient Americans of whom constructed the large ‘Olmec heads’ of the Stone Age? What happened to the ancient people of Europe who built up Stonehenge? A closer look at history through a scientific process shows that they became influence by the east. They had been overcome by an eastern people of whom imposed eastern traditions upon the people of the west. And this shows too, that the ancient pagan observances of EASTER goes way far back in time even long before the time of the height of the Sumerians. Long before an eastern people came westwards to deceive the mighty Sumerians, it had happened before. History had repeated itself after a thousand years at least. Why couldn’t those earlier kings of the Old Pyramid Age not recognize the purpose of the Easter egg? Why did they run so quickly to fertilize the very egg of the serpent? What was so wrong with their Black skin, their wooly hair and their rounded and full features that they so wanted to become Brown like me or even lighter? What was so wrong about the Black woman? Oh! I love and appreciate my Brown skin but why did my lighter skinned ancestors oppress the Black people of the west? Where did this evil hatred come from? How could the ancient Black people so easily have slept with their enemy and not see that the end result was their Adamnation [A-Damnation]. And what of today? Are we not born in Sin?

    The very subject of ‘Sin’ becomes so broad and vast that there would probably be no end of writing about it. Therefore additions will just have to be added by and by. For now though, some critical issues about this part of history that has been suppressed needs to be laid down in hopes of a better understanding. There are many definitions for the word ‘Sin’ and when placed within context, hopefully more revealations will come to light. Because of the first and Original Sin, yes, we are all born in sin, meaning, we all come into existence in a world that promotes THE EASTERN WAYS, AND IDEALS. And this happens because again, of what happened as a result of ‘the Original Sin’ and the history that was made subsequently. It does not mean that ‘we are destined to sin continually’ but rather, we are born in an environment, world, and governmental systems that promotes Eastern ideals as being the best, supreme, and these ideas are constantly transmitted to us, not only by white people, but by our mothers, fathers, teachers, and yes, even many preachers. This happens and has happened repeatedly because our past ancestors continually welcomed strange eastern peoples into their lands and were deceived. They did not know these people came with a purpose to deceive and suppress them and dominate them. The only way to have prevented this would have been to teleport oneself into the Garden of Eden and stop Eve from sleeping with the Serpent--But God gave her free will--And thus, here we are today, exploited, just as she had been and just as the daughter of Satan had been. The seed of the Great Adversary becomes ‘the Mother Earth’, the mother of the East, that gave birth to White Supremacy. And for this reason, she has been highly esteemed and worshiped. History through scientific eyes reveals that the ancient East was a land of very early civilizations of millions of Black-Brown people that one day gave rise to a white world. But where did they go? Based upon my research the very root name ‘China’ [Chin] reflects that lost history. What happened to these Black-Brown people? What happened to Mother Earth after she gave birth to the Eastern civilizations? How was she rewarded for her exploitations of the Black man and for her obsessions over the white man? Nu. Where are her light skinned daughters that helped her, that deceived her and that would only worshiped her only as the Mammy or as the seductive Cat woman? How was she rewarded for her rapes and for being raped? Sinology.

    Black women have been born into a world that has totally exploited us time and time again , and this rape of the Black woman goes back to about 6000 years. Yes. We are born in Sin and we must be delivered up out of it. We have to make that choice though. We have to come out of deception, an endeavor that can only begin by will power, dedication and acceptance. We cannot do it alone because of the very nature of the system upon which we came into existence. We need help and wisdom on who to receive help from. We have been deprived of protection by mankind and encouraged to reject our selves as being worthy of proper love and respect in the way that we have been created. Many times we have been rewarded for being evil for so long that we do not understand the full definition of ‘being born in Sin’; being born in the eastern way. We come into this world and are taught to teach our own daughters that we have bad hair. It was us that encouraged our daughters and we even did it; We straightened our daughters hair. It was us that chose between our sons on the basis of their traits. We judge them based upon their fathers but not by our own self worth and beauty. We have preferred the sons of other women. Our sons look like us!--for God‘s sake! --And for Christ sake! Mankind is made in the image of Jehovah yet, the Black man comes from our womb! We are their origin and Jehovah gave us that honor. Yet we obsess over the east, the land of Sin. China Supay. This entire eastern world has swung on the pendulum of our ignorance.

    Totally exploited. The Black woman. Where was the Black man? Where was our protection? Why did Adam drop his guard when Jehovah told him that evil lurked about that poison tree? Why do Black men so easily give up their inheritance, their land, their high position with the very Creator of this world? What can be so wrong with their Black skin, their Brown skin, their African features that they run from it so hard? Did God create ugly? What happened to the Sumerian? Where did they go?

    History reveals that after the ancient eastern people pressed westwards into the lands of Ham, eventually, the ancient Sumerians became so infiltrated that they began to be victims of assasinations; a movement that later came from the northeast of their lands. Hints of these acts were later written down in folklores and legends in various lands and peoples that existed around them. So, long before even Abraham was ever born, eastern people had influenced the Hamitic peoples and cultures so much so, that these Sumerians had allowed themselves to become reduced to being servants, bondservants and eventually enslaved with in their own inherited lands. Their kings began to severely suppress their own people. The eastern cultures supplanted themselves everywhere in the land of Ham, and for this reason, many Bible authors used the terms that reflect these ancient eastern cultures that came westwards and dominated the lands of Ham. In this way history was preserved in scripture. The very land of Sinai reflects this history. Although the Bible records it as being the original lands of Mizraim-Ham’s descendants, the names of various eastern civilizations that became dominant in and around the Sinai Peninsula are also noted:

    For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now
    is, and is in bondage with her children.
    GALATIANS 4:25.

    ...the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai,…departing out of the land of Egypt.
    EXODUS 16:1.

    ...the wilderness of Sinai….come to the desert of Sinai, and had pitched in the wilderness;...
    EXODUS 19: 1,2​
    .

    But more than a thousand years before this time, this part of the Sinai Peninsula had already been possessed by ancient pre-flood ‘Asiatic’ people from the eastern pagan civilizations. History had only repeated itself. Deception came out of that ark. Gentile people and certain cultures of people that initially went eastwards from the ark settled in various lands in the east and repeated the post flood civilizations in that they worshiped idols and one of the most supreme idol was that of Ashteroth. Many different kinds of eastern cultures developed in the east but history shows that the dominant theme and form of worship eventually gave birth to White Supremacy byway of the edification of Ashtoreth [I.e. Astarte…] and various forms of the idolization of fair skinned idols. And when certain eastern people came to the west, they brought these idols and their traditions with them. And this leads to the revelation of the most important part about the history of ancient Babylon [ancient Iraq]. Today we are forced to be born into a world in which many of us have been subjected to such evil acts of hatred, violence and racism that stems from historical secret hate societies that have been allowed to form under the protection of big governments. Yet the essence and very origins of these hate groups have never been taught to us in its entirety. Research reveals that their very origins are from eastern people that came to the land of the ancient Sumerians and more importantly, the three most strategic White Supremacist Hate groups even of today have their very roots in the works of Black-Brown people of the east and of whom operated for the benefit of White Supremacy. Yes. Oh yes. And the three groups are the following; (1) the Ku Klux Klan, (2) the Nazi, and (3) the Aryans. All three of these hate groups formed in ancient times and infiltrated the lands of Ham. Therefore, the beginnings of Anti-Semitism and hatred against the original Semites and Black Hamites stems from certain groups of people that came from the east with ideals of supremacy and hatred. But also, the ancient Blacks from the east were exploited as well. This would be one major reason why we do not correlate white people and White Hate groups with Black origins yet, this process would be no different than that of Hitler. Did he not operate for the benefit of White Supremacy and then afterwards was he not sacrificed? Self-Hatred leads to self sacrifice for an unworthy cause.

    The origins of certain eastern people that later formed these ancient hate organizations must be distinguished though, from the kinds of people that are also defined by these terms and of whom did not become apart of movements that formed and operated in secret societies as assassins and etc. in the land of Ham. But because history has been so deliberately suppressed, there would be much more information that needs to unfold. Again and as stated previously, the history that revolves around the land of Sin [Sina, Sino…] becomes so vast that additions have to be made to this research. There happens to be a great hidden vault of history that regards the east. And China [the Celestial Kingdom, Cathai…] would be a term that comprises only apart of it.

    Definition of SINOLOGY
    the study of the Chinese and especially their language, literature, history, and culture —

    Origin of SINOLOGY
    probably from French sinologie, from sino- + -logie -logy
    http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sinology
     
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    .......Yes!

     
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    agreed!

    Thanks for the input.
     
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    .......Good:)...and you are very welcome(yvw) Chevron.

     
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    Romans 5:

    [12] Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
    [13] (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
    [14] Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
    [15] But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
    [16] And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
    [17] For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
    [18] Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
    [19] For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
    [20] Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
    [21] That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
     
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    1 Corinthians 15:

    [22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
     
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    this is deep!--But I understand it!

    He was Crucified under the Roman empire law--and he was wronged because the Roman officials even said, under their law, he was not guilty of any of the many allegations and charges launched against him!

    And this crooked legal system whereby even innocent people [an innocent Black man] can be completely killed, hanged, Crucified while many, many onlookers looked on, and thus this justified this crooked legal system of which gained access through Adam! I got it!

    And by Grace, we have been afforded the time to understand this great sin of the government AND THE ONLOOKERS!--and get it right, a grace period of which could lead to eternal life in total peace.

    The perverted justice system of the Canaanites...

    [19] For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
     
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    1 the Chin were the last of 7 ruling dynasties so how does the name China bear on anything regarding their history?

    2 French is a Latin and not hebraic language


    so why would anyon go to anyone other then the Chinese to understand their history?

    We usualy go to Africans to understand African history

    Chinese history and culture predates,
    Abraham and Ur of the Chaldees
     
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    For the record; This is the CHRISTIAN STUDY SECTION. So are you mocking Black African American descendants of slaves because we use the Bible to understand our presence in this earth?

    You say, anyone would go to the Chinese to understand their history, and you say 'we' go to Africans to understand African history, but I say no, not at all for Christians. Christians use the Bible as the primary source to understand China and Africa and the Frenceh...get my drift. So based upon the Bible, I will respond to your mode of thinking:

    One of the main scriptures that I gave in this very thread was GENESIS 11, stating 'THEY CAME FROM THE EAST'...
    [paraphrasing] and found a plain in the land of Shinar and set up and deceived the original inhabitants there.

    I further gave information about this 'Chinese culture' so, no. i don't need to go to 'a chinese to understand what the Bible stated. and let me also add this vital piece, the Chinese comprised MANY, MANY distinct cultures of people and their history is full of conflict amongst various people of that land. so it would not be a great thing to go to the Chinese without looking at script for yourself first.

    Likewise, Africa's history is filled with many, many, distinct cultures and peoples of whom had conflicts, so no, it would be a terrible things to rely upon 'Africans' alone regarding the history of Africa without looking at script for yourself first.

    Regarding your statement about Chinese history predating Abraham an Ur of the Chaldees, I provided in depth discussion regarding this statement in this very thread. Did you not read it? I provided much input on the pre-civilization before the Sumerians set up in Ur of the Chaldees and the Old pyramid age in which stonehenge was build and the eastern civilization that mark this time and their movements into the west.

    I don't remember stating anything about 'the French', but no. i don't entirely agree with you on this since you brought it up. yes, French is defined as 'a laten based language' but I don't entirely agree with that based upon my own research about the original inhabitants of France.

    Regarding the 'Chin dynasty', I don't believe you on this either. Their name did not just appear at that time but, goes back much farther in history based upon my research. Howeve, I don't know that much about the Chin dynasty even though I did study and read up alittle about that time period.
     
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