Black Spirituality Religion : Since We Are The Original People - How Can We Be the Descendants of Ham?

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  1. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    We know we are the original people of the Earth. Archeologist have found houses in Egypt that date back to a time when Europe was in it's prehistoric age living in caves and fighting with sharp sticks. We are the original people and we designed, built and governed the original civilizations. How then can we be the children of Ham? How can the progeniter of the Black African race be the brother, that is in the same generation, with the progeniters of those who did not appear on Earth until thousands of years after we were well established?

    The easiest solution would be to say that Noah was Black. The problem with that is that Black genes are dominant so how can a Black man have a white baby?

    Albinism? But albinism involves more than lack of skin and hair color. It also involves lack of eye pigment which causes blindness. So if the progeniter of the white race was an albino then all white people would be blind.

    Mutation? Now really, a Black man has a white baby which has never before been seen on Earth leading to the birth of an entirely new race of people, yet the bible is silent about the whole event--has absolutely nothing to say about it? I don't think that is a viable solution.

    It is doubtful that even Adam and Eve were Black. There's not a Black woman living that would take an apple from a snake. What we have in Genesis is the creation of the white race. According to biblical tradition the Earth is six thousand years old. That corresponds with the masonic age of light--the time the white man appeared on Earth (crawled out of his cave and destroyed everything in sight--the thief cometh not but for to steal, to kill and to destroy).

    No one in the bible is the progeniter of the Black racce. The whole ideea of us being the children of Ham is designed to hide the fact that we came first and that Adam and Eve were not the first humans.
     
  2. Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    The problem here is relating "Noah", "Ham", "Shem" and "Japhet" as "races" of people. These are "linguistic families" with "Noah" representing the ROOT language from which the other derived.
     
  3. Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Reference.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japhetic_languages

    This "theory" developed as a result of "historical linguistics" which sought to establish a common language for all human languages. This "Noah" , as wa the case with "Abraham" were believed to have been from the area of Sumeria (Ur of Chaldees) or what was later known as "Babylon" hence, the Tower of Babel.

    That is why I jokingly sometimes refer to the "Holy Bible" as the "Unholy Babble".

    It is a record of the supposed evolution or historical development of linguistic famililes which religous zealots have taken literally, transformed into "races of men" and are now bent on destroying "Mankind" based upon a faulty belief system which has been taken literally. However, there is no true, scientific basis for this "written His-Story".
     
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    The problem

    The problem is that we are still trapped in the state of sleep looking in side a manuscript which states the beginning of life that began 6000 years ago. When we have facts of civilizations dating over 2 millions years ago proven by facts. The characters in the Wholly bi bill are fictious none of them existed. We must get out from undet the blanket of religion that has been stunting our spritual growth since it was introduced. The reality of the situation our memories have erased and reprogrammed to have to reley on a very flawed and confounded manuscript for answers." let us go down and confuse thier language" which is what happend to us we are now trying to piece together our ancestry by digesting all the information we can. Please stop relying on such a flawed document for your answers it is the very root of a lot of evil in the world. All throughout the manuscript differences are settled through blood shed and we wonder why the same things are taking place now.
     
  6. Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Quote:

    "let us go down and confuse their language" which is what happened to us we are now trying to piece together our ancestry by digesting all the information we can."

    :bullseye:

    Right on point and exact!!
     
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    backtoafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    So emanuel are you saying that you're an atheist??
     
  8. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    So backtoafrica are you saying that you are white? Who else would think that the only alternative to Christianity is atheism? With our rich heritage of Afro-centric spirituality there is absolutely no need for that.

    But then, that is off topic so if you care to pursue the issue please start another thread.
     
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    Moorfius Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The so-Called African is and forever...Lost in Euro-Biblical Myths of Racism*

    Hotep

    We so-called Africans in Amerikkka have become soo ignorant and blind to the Realities of Life...that to say that "We" are totaly and absolutely "Lost" in foolish, concocted, fanatical, fanticy of the white "Racist" thought that we know no-thing today...is a under statement. "You are not thinking"!!.........Think!
    Acording to this "Fabricated" story by none other than the so-called White Man and White Woman...in the begining all people were white?!! And the only reason there are Black Africans is because Noah's son who accidently saw his sloppy drunk and naked father looking like a damb fool...laughed at him and was then 'Cursed' for all time to be turn "Black" and to serve (Slavery) his white counter-parts. Ask your self...is this any way for a so-called phrophet of G-d to be acting? Is this any reason to "Curse" a child who in the first place did nothing wrong but you did...you were sloppy drunk, acting ignorant, foolish and laying around your "Family" butt naked!! If any one should have been cursed according to this (white) story...it should have neen the "Stupid" so-called phrophet who let himself be in such a pitiful and discracful condition in the first place...why was "Noah" not cursed as well?? According to this "Crazy" story that you are afraid to question and challenge...Noah is white and every one else is too...there are no black people or so-called Africans at this time during the so-called (white) flood. Ham is a white europian who is now turn black through a curse because he laughed at his silly, drunk, naked, ignorant, white, back-sliding so-called phrophet father "Noah"??!!!

    There has never been in the history of the Earth a person according to this made up story named "Noah" who was white along with every one else on earth at that time and who cursed one of his white sons to be Black and be a Slave to all the rest of his Family for all time. We are to beleive that Black people came from White people??!! Question: "Do you really beleave this lie??"
    Are you (Africans in Amerikkka) really as dumb in the head as the white europian church community has tried to make you and your ancistors for the past 5-thousand yeas +? Do you realize what level of ignorance one has to be in to even concider such a bold face concoction as this to justify Slavery, Racism and White Superimacy?? The answer to this question is ... you must be a Slave first because a real (African) original Black man and Black Woman knows this is nothing but a out right lie, there has never been a flood with a person named "Noah" as a phrophet who cursed his son 'Ham' to be black after being white first. This lie never took place in the history of the known "Universe". Why is it so had for a people who think they are smart...to be soo dumb as to still follow any thing the so-called white man and woman says?? The next thing they will tell you is they put a man on the "Moon"!

    Ase`

    Note: As long as you stay lost in the distorted and fabricated Europianized Racist Biblical Myths...you will all ways and for ever be nothing more than their Negro Slaves...is that what you want for yourself and your childrens future??
     
  10. Fine1952

    Fine1952 Happy Winter Solstice MEMBER

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    Great Question!

    We are not the descendants of Ham, but rather "Kam". This is a scholastic error that is not only mis-leading in spelling, but deceitful in meaning...!

    In addition, there was never a curse. This was just a "biblical aside" to justify enslaving the very people who "set" the foundations of a well developed Black cultural civiliation.
     
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