Black People : Silly Things People Say to People Who Don't Want Children

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  1. legit-writer

    legit-writer Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I wanted to share this. The common ones I hear are numbers 1, 8 and 9.

    1. Aren't you worried about ending up old and lonely?
    No. When Mel Brooks, playing the 2,000-year-old man, joked that "I have over 1,500 children and not one comes to visit me on a Sunday," he had a point: There's no guarantee that kids will be there for you in your old age. Plus, the University of Florida has shown that the idea of the lonely, childless senior is flat not true.
    University of Florida sociology professor Tanya Koropeckyj-Cox's 2003 study concluded that there's no higher rate of depression or loneliness among childless seniors. Of the 3,800 people between the ages of 50 and 84 who were surveyed about loneliness, responses didn't vary much between those who had kids and those who didn't. According to the University of Florida report:
    "One reason is that some people without children are able to maintain social ties throughout their lives that may substitute for what children would have given them, Koropeckyj-Cox said. They may do this with friends, work relationships or the younger generation, she said."

    2. "But you'd have such great kids!"
    Thanks! But that's what everyone thinks! You know **** well they're not all right!
    3. "But you'd be such a great mom!"
    That's nice, dear ... have a cookie. While some people simply adore kids, others of us are better at providing wise Mrs. Garrett-style comfort. If you're a good listener, there are already plenty of kids and adults who could use your empathy.
    "It's a completely overused sentiment, but it takes a village," says Jenn Cole, a self-employed graphic designer from San Francisco, who can't wait to give her support as the "cool auntie" but has no interest in being Mom.
    "In this increasingly complex world, kids need lots of adults in their lives. This used to be covered through extended-family networks and close-knit communities," she writes in an e-mail, adding that she cherished the outside influences of teachers, neighbors and mentors. "I will never forget the ballet teacher that helped me find my own beauty in movement, or the English teacher who got me deeply into literature, or the religion teacher who subtly echoed my questioning, or the old lady up the street who taught me to bake cookies and was so different from my mean and bitter grandmother. I can't wait to be these things to my friends' kids," she says.
    Indeed, what would any of our parents have done without outside support?

    4. Don't you want a family?
    I was raised in a family. That was plenty.
    Seriously, some people just don't function well in traditional families, which are like albums -- there are only two tracks you like, but you have to buy the whole **** record. Some of us just work better a la carte.
    5. "But they're so cute!"
    This is a topping good reason to buy a Hello Kitty "vibrator," but to bring a whole new person into existence?
    "Ten years ago, I did this children's festival," says a close friend who is a parent and a teacher, "and there were these vendors, and on this one tote bag there was a poem about the beauty and innocence of children and how wonderful the world was because of children. I said to her 'You don't have kids, do you?' And she said 'No, but I really want them.'
    "One of the pluses of not having children is being able to maintain this idealism that human beings are innocent."
    This woman is as good with kids as anyone you'll ever meet, but not because they're angels.
    "I love kids, but not because they're nice," she says, adding that they're actually downright mean at times. "Don't have a kid thinking they're going to make you feel better about yourself.
    "They're more real. They haven't built up the bulls**t meter yet, so you know where you're coming from all the time."
    She loves them, she says, because they're people, and she loves people.
    And they're their own people. Don't have a kid if what you want is a Mini-Me.
    "When we have a kid, there's the idea that somehow ... they're going to represent us in the world, and they're going to love us unconditionally ... that's the reason people have kids. If you knew the moment you had them you had to let them go, who would have kids?"
    6. "But it's natural."
    It's amazing how selective our society is about the "natural" things we promote versus the ones we scowl at. Nudity is natural -- and banned. Hunting is certainly more natural than shopping, but most people wouldn't kill a pig to get a Baconator.
    7. "It's a woman's greatest achievement."
    Producing a spin-off could well be the greatest achievement of a lot of people, but just because your contributions don't get diaper rash doesn't mean you haven't made any.

    8. "You'll change your mind."
    Now that I'm old, no one can say this to me anymore, but if anyone says it to you, Grasshopper, just return their condescending smile and say that one day they'll change their mind about their partner, career choice, spiritual predilections or any other extraordinarily personal element of their lives. See how they like it.
    9. "You should have at least one of your own."
    This is one of my favorites, as though kids were canap├ęs or raffle tickets that would be gone by the time the party is over instead of people who require care, feeding and lots and lots of things.
    "When I see babies, not only do I see the beauty, joy and miracle of life, I also see nappies, landfill waste, vast amounts of food and money needed, and a very shaky, unpredictable future," Joanna Benn wrote for the BBC Science & Environment blog when she was an independent on the whys and whethers of having kids. She now works for the United Nations Environmental Program, but gave permission to quote her past work, where she also noted the U.N. projections that "the world population will nearly stabilize at just above 10 billion people after 2200."
    Overpopulation is the greatest threat to our environment, according to a recent survey of professors at State University of New York College of Environmental Science and Forestry. In a story in Science Daily, systems ecologist Charles Hall called it "the only problem."
    A study by Oregon State University says that the carbon imprint of child born in the U.S. now is 20 times as important as the other eco-savvy measures a parent might take, like recycling or driving a hybrid vehicle (the carbon emissions in America, with our consumer-based lifestyle and longer life spans, is higher than in many other countries).
    The choice of whether to have kids is such an intensely personal one that it seems weirdly disproportionate to literally put the weight of the world on one's shoulders when considering it; it's at least self-satisfying to know that my choice was a green one, albeit by accident.
    Finally, it's less what we do to the world as what the world is capable of doing to us that also made me leery of bringing anyone into a place this tough. You have to be an optimist to have kids, and I'm more your neurotic emotional claustrophobe. At least I know it; I also know, unshakably, that I made the right choice.
    And choice is what it comes down to in the end -- a simple to each his own, without either side passing judgment on the other for the most important and personal decision of all.
     
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    There are MANY nursing homes full of elderly people who have children and some of those children do not come to see them. So having a child does not insure that you will have someone to take care of you when you get older. I have also met some parents who have children who wish they never had them because the child is in jail, always in trouble, on drugs or alcohol, a murderer, steals, etc. I watch Nancy Grace and I see alot of children who have been abused or left around people who were not safe for children to be around these people like child molesters and pedophiles. Alot of these children end up being physically or sexually abused or killed and children deserve to have a parent who is going to protect them and keep them safe.
     
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    i am so glad you understand that, because there is really no guarantee. and hell yeah some of them turn out to be pedophiles or some type of monster that shouldn't be out in society!
     
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