Black Spirituality Religion : "SILENT NIGHT, HOLY NIGHT..."

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    The popular Chrismas song "Silent Night" contains the following words: "round yon virgin, mother and child." What most people don't realize when they sing these words is that the word "yon" in the song is actually a contraction of the word "young." When sung as such the phrase make sense: "round young virgin, mother and child"...

    According to Jewish rabbinical law, a female is considered a full-grown woman at the age of 14. Jesus' mother Mary was 14 when she became impregnated in the year 8 BC. However, it might have been that the early church fathers thought the words in the Christmas song "Silent Night" that I have alluded to were too risque, and they didn't want to encourage young female admirers of Mary to emulate her and become pregnant when they reached age 14. Thus the words, "round YON virgin, mother and child"...

    (The word "yon" is short for "yonder," an Old English word that means, "over there." Its counterpart is "hither," which means "here." One would say, "come hither" and "over yonder." There is, "hither, tither and yon," which means, "here, there and over there.")

    The popular song "White Christmas" was written by Irving Berlin, a Jew whose real name was Israel Isidore Baline...and what is truly ironical about these "Christmas Carols" is that many of these songs were written by Jews, who don't believe in Jesus!
     
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    The original title of this song was in German..."STILLE NACHT, HEILIGE NACHT." The original lyrics were written by Joseph Mohr, and the melody was composed by Franz X. Gruber in 1818. It is said that there exist over 300 translations of the song in the world.

    Christmas is the most important Christian holy day. Since it celebrates the birth of the Christian world’s Messiah, and since Jews do not accept Jesus as Messiah, Christmas cannot come within the area of Jewish celebration. Yet the Jews are the greatest promoters of this Christian holiday. This is so because - more than any other time of the year - their financial profits and gains are huge...

    (Btw, the idea of the trinity is incompatible with the religion of Judaism.)
     
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    There is no tradition in Judaism of celebrating birthdays as holidays. The Bible does not record birthdays...the New Testament does not record the date of Jesus' birth, or even indicate the season. The New Testament does not mandate or even describe any annual celebration of the nativity. The various Christian groups around the world have different dates. Roman Catholics and Protestants (who broke off from the Roman Catholics) use December 25, but the Eastern Orthodox use Jan. 6, and the Armenians have yet another date about a month later...

    Here is an excellent website for further information:

    http://www.myjewishlearning.com/history_community/Modern/ModernSocial/AmericanHanukkah.htm
     
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    Is there is astrological aspects of Mary giving birth at 14 to the 14 days of the waxing or wanning of the moon?
     
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    I am unaware of any astrological aspects re: Mary giving birth at age 14, AACOOLDRE. According to Jewish rabbinical law, a female is considered a woman when she reaches this age...
     
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    As historian Jenna Joselit notes, some Jewish leaders criticized the tendency of immigrant Jews to accept Christmas as an American consumer ritual. Writing in The Menorah in 1890, Rabbi Kaufman Kohler asked, "How can the Jew, without losing self-respect, partake in the joy and festive mirth of Christmas? Can he - without self-surrender, without entailing insult and disgrace upon his faith and race - plant the Christmas tree in his household?"

    Yet, Rabbi Kohler admitted, Hanukkah - as then celebrated by American Jewry - could not hold a candle (so to speak) to Christmas. Kohler said of the comparison: "How humble and insignificant does one appear by the side of the other," and suggested that Hanukkah needed more pizzazz if it was to compete with Christmas...
     
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    Re:"Silent Night":

    Bethlehem was so crowded that Joseph and Mary had to go into the overflow space at the local inn (which would have been in the stable, where they kept the animals). There would have been animals around. Shepherds came through town looking for the inn, and coming in to the stable undoubtedly excited by the angelic visitation. Jesus as a baby would have been crying from his birth, at least at the first, and the animals may also have stirred both from that and from the commotion from the entering shepherds. Would you consider that a silent night?

    http://www.freecfm.com/h/hildawg/premise/lying_carols.htm
     
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    That's really no surprise. Anything to make a buck, I guess. :rolleyes:



    I wouldn't say it's the most important, because not all Christians view it as a holy day, but many see it for what it is; a pagan celebration said to celebrate the birth of the Christ, though it doesn't.

    The Holy Days are described in the Scripture, and the day of the resurrection of the Holy Son is more Holy to celebrate, week after week, than that Christmas celebration year after year.

    The fact the Jews do promote it to us should be a hint that it shouldn't be celebrated, because they'd not promote anything truly to do with the One they don't believe has salvaged Israel(who aren't them, by the way) and a whole people beyond(such as the gentiles) by His sacrifice in the Body for our sins.

    They hold a grudge against our Savior because He knows they are fake, and shall be the One to reveal their lies. They definitely wouldn't want any celebrating His true birth. They want to promote all He doesn't want Christians involved in, which is greed, materialism, selfishness, covetousness, and anything that'll break the commands of the Father, which many false Jews say aren't commandments but are "guidelines". Sickening and sinful.

    We just need to hold fast to faith, and believe in all the Son has taught, told, and revealed. Trust in the Father, and not the ways of men.
     
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