Black Relationships : Signs of a woman with a prostitute mentality

[jamesfrmphilly]

Why are you changing the subject, with a non sequiter response?

why are you concerned with women who are prostitutes ?

just avoid them if you see them.

 

[Destee]

1. Judging a man superficially by how he spends money on a date. Like having a problem with a man using coupons, or taking her to a place she deems to be beneath her. Including maybe an all you can eat buffet restaurant.

2. Women who use the cliche, that a man paying for dates is supposed to help her determine whether or not a man has the potential to be a good provider. That is some straight up ******** lying. There is no way a man paying for dates is an indicator on his ability and willingness to provide for a woman. What is really going on is that many women are opportunists.

Thats their excuse & justification so they dont ever have to contribute on a date and give the bare minimum. Paying for a date doesnt show a man is going to be able to pay rent, a mortage, supplement a woman and her kids. It's just a date. A social medium towards initially obtaining sexual gratification. Each party has their own objective. The mans objective is to get laid. The womans objective is to get benefits, attention and validation.

3. The women who think that since they are having sex with the man, they dont need to spend any of their money where the man may benefit. If they do spend any money they dont feel obligated. It's optional and completely at their discretion if they wish to contribute financially. Meanwhile, it's perfectly normal for a woman to allow a man to initiate any and everything. Especially if the woman isnt really feeling him.

4. Women who give out their numbers and/or go out on dates with men they dont really like. If a woman is approached by a man showing interest in them, you dont give the man your number if you dont even like the guy. Unless you are an opportunist who sees the possibility of getting free dates, attention and/or validation. Thats a good reason why enough women give out their contact information to guys they know they arent really feeling.

5. Women who make fake, insincere offers to pay or contribute on a date, secretly hoping the guy refuses the offer. What's also tied into this, are the women who will not go out on a 2nd date with a man who accepted her insincere offer to pay/contribute.

A lot of women think making a false impression of being willing to contribute on a date will get them brownie points with a man. That only works on men that dont know how phony some women can be.

If a man is smart, he should not be impressed by women offering to contribute on a date, knowing daggone well that woman doesnt really want to part with her money.

6. Another dead give away to the prostitute mentality of women. The women never initiate dates where they pay for everything like the man did with them. Point being, a woman doesnt have to pay or contribute on a date initiated by as man.

But there's nothing stopping a woman from planning a date where she pays for everything like a man did on her behalf. The fact so many women have a problem in this area, speaks volumes. The reason why enough women have a hard time reciprocating, is because they DONT APPRECIATE MEN when men are asking them out and paying for them.

They take those gestures for granted. Like it's just what a man is supposed to do. A man is not making a sacrifice in their minds, so women dont care that the man is spending his time and money. Thats a prostitutes/opportunists mentality.

I know, I know, they cant pay for dates early on, because they are too busy evaluating a man as a provider for the future.

Need a lot more dates of him paying, for everything before she can part with any of her hard-earned money. Besides, she is a traditional woman when it comes to a man paying for dates. LOL

@Wrx2011 ... thanks for sharing. I have to agree with Brother @jamesfrmphilly ... it sounds like you have been hurt by the type of women you describe. It also sounds like you have gone inside the minds and thoughts of women in general, and are applying the pain you've experienced with a few, upon us all (or most).

In order to make the claims you are, it would require you to be inside a host of women's thoughts, which is not possible (unless I've missed some new technology on the scene). While I don't doubt you have experienced a woman or two or few, as you've described, to put that on all or most is disingenuous.

Instead of trying to put this prostitute mentality on all of us, perhaps you may want to ask why do you attract or deal with prostitutes, if this has been your experience? It may be something you are doing or saying, the way you are carrying yourself, that draws prostitutes to you. Is there something about yourself that says, I am a trick?



Destee

 

[Wrx2011]

Ms Destee in Bold

it sounds like you have been hurt by the type of women you describe. It also sounds like you have gone inside the minds and thoughts of women in general, and are applying the pain you've experienced with a few, upon us all (or most).

When a person who doesn’t know you from a can of paint starts off saying “IT SOUNDS LIKE”, you can best believe that person doesn’t focus on truth or facts when they make assessments of stuff they read. Nor do they realize they aren’t addressing the content that they are in dispute with.

Instead of focusing on sounds going on inside of your head, why not focus on the facts? You do believe in the truth and facts, right? You don’t have to do guess work in regards to how something sounds. Im right here in front of you. You can ask me point blank why I am able to point out the things Im addressing.

I never said I was hurt. I never denied that I have experience with women. The key is. I have years of anecdotal experience to draw from as well as the anecdotal experience from years of observing others and what they went through. Im in constant contact with both men and women. In fact, I personally avoided a lot of drama in my own life just because I paid attention to what was going on around me.

Here’s something to think about. If I decide to talk about people using or abusing crack or heroin, does that mean I had to have been a user of those drugs in order to know what Im talking about? No of course not.

Does it mean I was hurt or abused by crack or heroin in order to be able to speak on it? Do I have to have a personal disdain for crack or heroin in order to talk about what it can do to people. No of course not. Why is it all of these wanna be Dr Phils always try to discredit a message by focusing on the alleged character of the messenger? As if what Im talking about is not common knowledge among the masses already about male and female issues & behavior.

And BTW ones personal experience, the experience of others and the powers of observation over a course of time are some of the best ways to learn about a subject. I don’t have to smoke crack to know crack is not good. I don’t have to be in a bad relationship or marriage to know about how a relationship or marriages fail or succeed

• In order to make the claims you are, it would require you to be inside a host of women's thoughts, which is not possible (unless I've missed some new technology on the scene). While I don't doubt you have experienced a woman or two or few, as you've described, to put that on all or most is disingenuous.
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• That is a bold face lie. It is absolutely not required for anybody to be inside of womens thoughts, in order to know what Im saying about certain behavior I see in women that manifest that behavior. What is true, is that I may not be able to pinpoint exactly how each individual woman acquired her mindset.
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• What I can do, is simply use deductive reasoning. And use a broad scope to arrive at a general conclusion that fits the masses that manifest said behavior. Shahrazad Ali provided that broad scope way back in the 80’s. She said that much of the behaviors we emulate today come directly from us being stripped of who we were and brought here to be conditioned to be other than ourselves.
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• That was the initial phase after getting us here. Later on during the 60’s up until today. A masterful job has been done breaking up the black family. Putting a wedge between BM & BW. I could make a whole post about how BW were and are to this day being used by the system just to accomplish that division. But I digress. So I disagree with your premise, that one needs to be inside of womens thoughts. All one needs is insight, wisdom and knowledge…….and it helps to know history. Past, recent and current.
  
  3. Instead of trying to put this prostitute mentality on all of us, perhaps you may want to ask why do you attract or deal with prostitutes, if this has been your experience? It may be something you are doing or saying, the way you are carrying yourself, that draws prostitutes to you. Is there something about yourself that says, I am a trick?
  
  This is again is where you went left and got it wrong. Your statement is completely false. Why do I have to try to put a prostitute mentality on “all of us”? Why don’t you make a definitive statement ? Don’t say Im TRYING to do that. Just say I am putting a prostitute mentality on “all of us”
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• You know why you have to say it like that? Because you know you made up a lie so you could have plausible deniability. You wanna fall back on…….what he said “sounds like” he’s saying this about “all of us”. The truth of the matter Destee, it’s not me that is showing hurt. It’s you. In order for you to deflect from whats really your issue here, , you have to lie and twist what was said to mean something that wasn’t said. For you to claim that I put something on “all of us” or “MOST” is disingenuous.
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• I made no such claim saying ALL women or MOST women have a prostitute mentality. What I did say and convey , was the behavior that enough women participate in, and the associated mindset of where it comes from, I consider that a prostitute/hoe mentality. Instead of focusing on discrediting the messenger, why not just prove the message is wrong, false , or invalid?. You win by using the Straw Man tactic. Change what the man said and how he conveyed it, and then argue that you are right because you reassigned what his POV means to you.
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• I called you out on you doing that. Showed you the evidence of you doing that. What did we get from you? An admission of making a mistake? Nope. An acknowledgement that I wasnt saying what you thought I said? Nope. Instead you gaslit me by telling me that I dont want a serious discussion. And how now you dont want to continue because you arent interested. Your stance is exactly what sister Ali experienced on the talk show circuit.
• When those BW couldnt discredit sister Ali's message, or they couldnt find something personal to use against her. They eventually lost momentum. Never would they admit where sister Ali got it right, and they were wrong in misjudging her intentions. Ms Destee in order for the sexes to heal, the ugly truth has to be dealt with and uncovered. Just like what they do in AA or NA meetings.
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• You have to admit to what the facts are, before you can heal. Nothing will ever change when women cant admit to behaviors that exist among the masses. And NO, I have never been an alcoholic. Im just aware of how AA or NA operate. The blessing we have, is that there are some powerful women in our midst on social media, that have spoken up about the very things that Im addressing. One sister is The Crimson Cure. A very dynamic and well spoken women.
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• She could put a ton of women to shame with her insight and wisdom into male and female behavior. There are a few others, like a sister named Dee Dee. Melanie King is another. And another lady, I dont recall her name or channel. I can honestly say, those women would not do what you do. If they needed to address something they disagree with, they would address what was said, the way it was said. Not change the context or meaning of what was said, and then make up a fake counter argument.

 

[Perfection]

Shahrazad Ali provided that broad scope way back in the 80’s. She said that much of the behaviors we emulate today come directly from us being stripped of who we were and brought here to be conditioned to be other than ourselves.

Would you mind sharing a few examples when you think it's cool to slap your woman?

Thanks

 

[Wrx2011]

Would you mind sharing a few examples when you think it's cool to slap your woman?

Thanks

Im sorry, but I dont have any examples like that or a history of slapping MY women. Let me ask you something. Do you have a history of slapping any man who did not assault you in any way before you slapped him? If so, when do you think it's cool for a woman to slap a man, if that man did not assault that woman 1st?