Black People : Should we ignore black on black crime?

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  1. MsInterpret

    MsInterpret Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Some people don't like that I post stories about black on black crime...I do this because it affects me...I don't ignore things that I find to be an issue and I think it should be discussed and everyone should aware if we are to do any type of constructive work in our community.

    No black man or woman should be coming against each other in violence.

    We talk about politics, religion, and sex...but are you too afraid to talk about crime against ourselves?

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    I think black on black crime is a sensitive issue because its so hard to pinpoint where its roots lay.

    They're are those who hold the position that black on black crime doesn't exist, crime is crime and the media sensationalizes and exaggerates the whole idea. The media probably does this to an extent like it does everything but it, imo is a real issue.

    My position is it does exist I think it happens for a number of reasons:


    Self hate, conditions we live in, not a strong enough sense of community, the cemented gang culture. All that and perhaps the biggest reason is we just don't see the bigger picture. Africa, Carribean, America, Europe - Its always the same story.
     
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    Not fear, the only issue is significance,

    are the ishs posted typical things that happen in the major cities or are they bizzarre tabloid incidents that are sad but rare occurences?
     
  4. MsInterpret

    MsInterpret Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    True

    Well what I post isn't bizarre tabloid incidents

    Like the last post I posted touched home because a close friend of mine's nephew was killed by the mother's boyfriend

    And plus you are hearing about this stuff all too often that it's ridiculous

     
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    ahem..

    First; a bunch of questions..

    Why does anyone commit crime? why shouldnt black folks commit
    crime against other black folks? Are you suggesting that folks that have
    decided to rob and steal and kill should somehow also be conscious and
    self-loving enough to perpetrate their crimes against non-black people
    instead?

    next; yet another long post.. just for you Missy.. :)


    The term black on black crime has been used against us.. as a way of saying
    that we are responsible for the violence and decadence in the parts of
    the cities that we occupy. Its used by the white power structure as an
    excuse not to police those areas.. and to create the impression that we
    are a group of killers and criminals.. and that in turn allows them to do
    what they want in those areas. Anything that happens in those areas can
    then be attributed to black on black crime.. Its a phrase that ignores the police
    protected drug trade that exists in black areas... and the intentional
    under-education and exploitation of black children by the education
    system.. how are those kids supposed to get work and support themselves
    and their children if they have no functional education? If you isolate a
    group of any kind of people.. control their access to economic power,
    to knowledge, to opportunity.. then concentrate the drug trade in their
    neighborhoods, what you are going to get is what we have. And for the
    record, in every single nation their is crime.. chinese on chinese crime,
    german on german crime, indian on indian crime, etc.. and thats not
    to say that we should ignore black crime.. we shouldnt but we should
    always recognize the context through which that news written and delivered.

    that said.. I dont think anybody wants to hear about every bad thing that
    happened everywhere in the world everyday anyway.. we have that on
    every channel already.. why not search for stories that uplift? or that
    inform or that speak to some larger issue that we need to talk about.
    why dig through the basket looking only for the rotten fruit?... huh?
    huh?.. huh? We live under constant downward pressure.. lift us up.

    and that was short..

    Peace.
     
  6. Ankhur

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    I dont know what to tell you about that ,
    I live in one of the roughest neghborhoods in the nation and I have never heard of anything like that in years, what are the statistics, are black men doing this more then white, realy it sounds like a Jerry Springer issue.

    Now if some one said there should be a serious effort to battle crack then yes that is black on black crime going on all over the nation

    but realy what newspapers are printing that kind of thing?

    and to be honest after 2 or 3 posts , folks say oh how bad,
    oh how sad, oh aint it a shame,

    but never ask
    OK so what are some solutions that folks can network seriously state to state to deal with reversing this

    If women are desiring to have relationships with total drips and this stuff as you say is getting worse and worse then what should be done??
     
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    :toast::toast::toast: Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. MsInterpret

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    :fyi:LOL Thanks for your short version

    No I don't believe black people should turn to commit violence against anyone...But seeing how if I said, on this website, that black people should not commit crimes against non-blacks some would say I'm supporting the white supremacy

    If it's not black on black crime then what should it be called?

    And I am aware of the following things you said.

    However, I do not post every single drop of crime that is committed in against black people

    I have posted a lot of things on "People doing positive things" in the community and I post about education...

    I post things that matter to me...seeing how I've worked in the juvenile detention, school system, and homeless/battered women

    You may not wanna know, but others may

    A lot of topics discussed on this forum aren't uplifting...But they are FACTS that need to be discussed

     
  9. MsInterpret

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    It's an issue in Washington...I don't know why, but its in our news constantly

    I am constantly trying to think of solutions, but in order to figure out a solution the root of the problem needs to found...but it can't be done by just saying "how sad" and then ignoring it as if it we're just used to it

     
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    Should we ignore black on black crime? No.

    Like skuderjaymes said, "...we should always
    recognize the context through which that news
    written and delivered."

    So on that note I recommend to you, Misinterpret,
    (if you don't have it already) check out:

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