Black Education / Schools : Should College Education Be Free?

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Should College Education Be Free?

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  1. Liberty

    Liberty going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Make Public College Tuition-Free

    To: President Barack Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and House Speaker John Boehner

    Create a plan to make public college tuition-free. Rather than continuing to pour billions more into financial aid programs that often fall short of tuition costs and leave students deep in debt, lead an effort to fund tuition-free public college. The money is there but the leadership isn't

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    Higher education: Should college be free for all?

    Should college be free for all? Bernie Sanders thinks so. So did John Adams. “The whole people must take upon themselves the education of the whole people, and must be willing to bear the expense of it,” Adams argued. That belief motivated the establishment of land grant colleges, in the 1862 Morrill Act, “to promote the liberal and practical education of the industrial classes in the several pursuits and professions in life.”


    Sanders has proposed a 21st-century equivalent to the Morrill Act, introducing legislation to eliminate undergraduate tuition at public colleges and universities; the cost would be financed by a tax on financial transactions. The tax would provide two thirds of the cost; the states would need to match with the remaining third. The proposed legislation contains other provisions as well: that student-loan interest be reduced and that tenured or tenure-track faculty provide 75 percent of the instruction in colleges and universities receiving funds.


    At the base of the debate about the cost of college is the question whether college is a private or a public benefit. The answer is clearly both. A college degree increases lifetime earnings substantially — by about $1,000,000 — and provides better and more employment opportunities. But individuals are not the only ones who profit from college; the nation, and the states that compose it, benefit from a more skilled and educated workforce and the social mobility inherent within it. Education, in today’s world, is the path to the American dream.

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    7 Countries Where College Is Free

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    cost of college tuition has skyrocketed, with huge increases over the past five years as college aid has been reduced by state budgets. In Arizona, for example, this increase in tuition has been 77 percent.



    Two-thirds of American college students graduate with college debt, and
    that debt now tops $1.2 trillion. By every indication, college is now more expensive than it has ever been, out of reach of not only poor Americans, but even middle class ones. While various reforms made in the past few years may have helped slow the growth of college costs, they continue to outpace Americans’ ability to pay.

    Although this is happening in the world’s richest country, there are many places abroad where college is virtually free. The Washington Post’s Rick Noack
    points out seven places where Americans can study for free or at very low cost – and in English! Students just have to be willing to leave the country:

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    Ranking America

    The U.S. ranks 14th in education
    6 January 2015Mark1 comment

    According to Pearson, the United States has a “cognitive skills and educational attainment” score of 0.39, which makes the United States
    rank fourteenth out of forty countries ranked in that category. The top ten countries (and their scores) are:

    1. South Korea (1.30)
    2. Japan (1.03)
    3. Singapore (0.99)
    4. Hong Kong (0.96)
    5. Finland (0.92)
    6. United Kingdom (0.67)
    7. Canada (0.60)
    8. Netherlands (0.58)
    9. Ireland (0.51)
    10. Poland (0.50)

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    education, Ranking of 11 to 20 Tags: education, South Korea


    The U.S. ranks 2nd in ignorance
    30 October 2014Mark2 comments

    According to the research firm IPSOS Mori, the United States
    ranks second out of fourteen countries in general ignorance about social statistics such as teen pregnancy, unemployment rates, and voting patterns. Italy is the most ignorant of the fourteen countries.

    [​IMG]

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    Not only free... But REQUIRED
     
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    Yes, you can see the dumbing down in the USA. Especially when George W was President. What an embarrassment. Other countries are far more advanced. And, people are predicting that our economy is about to crash again like in 2008. But, this time, no one is gonna bail us out. We need better educated people to solve the many problems that we face. It is a necessity.

    Thanks for posting.

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    Education should be free but schools should not be doing things to make it more expensive than necessary. High school graduates in some other countries are better educated than some college graduates here. The education is a business is a racket.

    We should have had a National Recommended Reading List decades ago. Maybe 50, one for each state. Start reading the right books in grade school and keep it up and some college graduates seem silly.



    But we have this issue of "molding children's minds" and who decides what mold to use. There are a lot of dumb Black people that want to tell others what being Black is. But how many Blacks know what a Maxim gun is and what is has to do with the First Battle of Matabele?

    Talking about Black power without knowing technology is complete nonsense.

    umbra
     
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    Of course higher education in most cases IS free it's the US "collegiate" system that has become just another cash cow for the capitalistic system. There are more resources for learning available now than any other time in history, right here on the internet, but people still have to PAY for "classes" at schools who have paid to be in the "club" in order to be legal in most states. It seems colleges have become a means of justifying a system biased against traditional "experience" credentialing that allows for the type of apprenticeships that support generational sharing of skill sets! The goal is to sustain debt, not to actually teach anything really useful, so yes it should be free.
     
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    With that said, people need to utilize the resources that are free instead of using cost as an excuse to remain ignorant of anything they need to know to do whatever they what to do! There are books that tell you how to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING man has contemplated...folk need to READ more! :)
     
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    Yes. And, there are a lot of unaccredited colleges out there. The competitiveness is not just if you have a degree, also, what degree do you have, and what school did you get it from.

    And, the one point I was trying to make was this. Our country is losing traction badly compared to other countries. We have fallen so far behind. We re among the dumbest nations. So, offering free University education is not just for the good of the individual, it s also for the good of the nation.
     
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