Black People : Should Black and Red nations leave OPEC?

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  1. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Algeria
    Angola
    Ecuador
    Iran
    Iraq
    Kuwait
    Libya
    Nigeria
    Qatar
    Saudi Arabia
    United Arab Emirates
    Venezuela


    A 14 year old child, who has seen the Godfather, and the Sopranos , and has done their current events homework in their social studies class or world studies class,
    can tell that OPEC at this point is no longer an organization but a criminal syndicate,

    that will rub out it's competion from within
    :qqb012:


    Maybe it is time that Black African nations and First American nations seek to leave OPEC

    and form their own discounted consortium,
    that would act as an umbrella organization for all other Black and Red nations that have new oil deposits found recently in the past 10 years by sattelite,

    like Haiti,
    Cote D'Ivoire
    Ghana
    Brazil and others
     
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    I agree.

    I think the African and First Nation people should have their own version.

    Get the oil out of Arab and European control. I like what Chavez has done in Venezuela, by nationalizing the oil companies and reducing its dependence on US. As a result, their standard of living has gone up, and they improved their infrastructure.

    Sadly, they will be on the list for Western interference, after Egypt, Libya, etc...
     
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    You got to be kidding

    What part of their infrastructure have they improved? murder rate, water availability, food production, their largest customer is the USA for oil.
     
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    Ok...Im not gonna pretend to be the expert on the issue...but this is what I found from the Dept. of Energy

    Largest US oil imports come from...
    1. Canada
    2. Mexico
    3. Saudi Arabia
    4. Venezuela
    5. Nigeria
    6. Angola
    7. Iraq
    8. Algeria
    9. United Kingdom
    10. Brazil

    No country is gonna be perfect. But I think nationalizing Citgo and the other oil conglomerates....is a step in the right direction.

    Free health care, land reform, community banking, land reforms. Doesnt sound like a bad deal to me. has to be better than what they had.

    a ne\\
     
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    Did not say that USA does not get oil from others

    You need to look to the stats on Venezuela, not the USA. This does nothing to change my statement that the USA is Venezuela's biggest customer. Just that They get more from other places.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ates-surpass-Colombias-under-Hugo-Chavez.html
    Venezuela endures 48 murders for every 100,000 people each year. Britain, by contrast, has 2 per 100,000.


    In Caracas the official rate is 130 per 100,000, a number which the Investigative Institute of Co-existence and Citizen Security, a think thank dedicated to the study of crime, insists is closer to 166, making Caracas twice as dangerous as Cape Town.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106620230
    In Venezuela, President Hugo Chavez's government has made the expropriation of farmland — taking land from big landholders and giving it to the poor — central to his so-called revolution. The idea is to spur production and end dependence on food imports.

    But the results have fallen short, making the country more dependent on foreign food than ever before.

    http://healthmad.com/healthcare-industry/health-care-system-in-venezuela/

    According to the latest stats released by the United Nations in 2008, 32% of the country lacks sewage systems, 17% of the country does not have clean water , only 3% of the water is treated, child malnutrition is at 17% and poverty rampant throughout the country and the rural areas. Thus it is not surprising that the country is ravaged by various diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever, cholera, Hepatitis A, B and D. The government under the leadership of the socialist party and Hugo Chavez has blamed private institutions of charging too much for their health care treatment and thus preventing people from getting treatment. The government has also put the blame of “racial profiling” in the country against indigenous peoples as the reason for the epidemics. Nevertheless, the country’s nationalized hospitals and state-owned facilities are lacking in much needed infrastructural upgrades and are in a poor state. Yet the current socialist administration, appealing to the broad support they enjoy from the poverty stricken, is still trying to create a national universal health care system. However, the country is experiencing a “brain drain” as doctors are starting to leave the country to seek better opportunities abroad.

    http://www.bnamericas.com/news/elec...g-continues-despite-resumption-of-gas-imports
    Power rationing continues across Venezuela despite re-establishment of gas imports from Colombia, according to a report from the electric power minist...

    http://english.eluniversal.com/2011...ortance-on-venezuelas-banking-portfolio.shtml
    Venezuela's domestic debt amounted to VEB 83.05 billion (USD 19.31 billion) by the end of last year, which is 47 percent of total Venezuela's debt, the highest amount in the last 36 years.
     
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    all the more reason for them to unify, in defense and prosperity,

    there are many African nations that are just recently discovering oil and natural gas fields as well as many central American and South American nations, as well as the Carribbean
     
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