Black People : Seth & Nephthys [THYS-SYTH, Reverse Script]; the Loveless Marriage?

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    Seth & Nephthys [THYS-SYTH, Reverse Script]; the Loveless Marriage?

    “As Geb’s eldest son, Osiris attained kingship of the earth, and married his sister Isis, whom he had loved even in the womb. His brother Seth, in a loveless marriage to Nephthys, coveted the throne and schemed to obtain it by stealth. . . .” pg 134.
    http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Ancient-Egypt/David-P-Silverman/e/9780195212709

    The North versus the South;
    Lower Egypt (Red Crown) versus Upper Egypt (White Crown)


    Long before this division arose ‘Osiris’ was not just confined to the north of Egypt but due to the presence of the eastern people of whom migrated into Egypt, eventually they developed ‘a creation story’ in which Osiris came to represent their dominance over the descendants of Seth [Thebes] in South Egypt. Because of White Supremacy today, we are presented with this debauched form of Egyptian history. We are presented with a conquering story in which highlights the kind of history that elevates the Asiatics of today. But in actuality when the aboriginal people of Africa--the Seth generations--began to form their government, it was their history and their systems of belief that became dominant and for thousands of years.

    During the Pre-flood days, ‘Thebes’ or ‘the House of Seth’ formed a priesthood in at least two different parts of Africa; (1) One in North Egypt and, (2) Another in South Egypt (Upper Egypt). But even prior to this time, the Cainites had already made history in this southern area of Egypt and even farther south. It would be from this area that one day Amen-the-Unifier, an eastern man, would organize a force to war against the Asiatics. According to modern day historians, this time period became known as ‘the Thinite Period’. The Thebans of this region also developed a city called ‘the City of This’ [Syth; in reverse scriptform]. Many Christians today claim that the entire Star Wars epic is a detailed copy of this very Thinite time period right down to the very names used for certain pivotal characters. Although I have not seen any of the films, however, some of the names of characters that I’ve come across actually do agree. Names like ‘Darth Vader’, ‘Sith’, ‘Jedi’ and more do match up to terms of this time period.

    From the time of Amen-the-Unifier onward, the presence of Seth people in the south became significant. They continued to maintain a stronghold in the lands that they were able to form and for thousands of years. During the Post-flood times even, the Thebans reformed in order to resist the aggressions of a northern government that formed with the intentions to suppress Kemet. History repeated itself once again. Even though this repetition between the North and the South continually occurred and the eastern people continued to show that they always made deliberate attempts to infiltrate Seth/Kemetic lands in order to obliterate the generations of Seth in Thebes, they were not able to completely conquer them until the Roman Empire times.

    Two (2 ) Different Creation Stories -- Two (2) different Triads

    In the north the creation story, the Ennead, that became attributed to the post-flood government was based upon ‘the number nine (9)’ and the triad became known as ‘Osiris-Isis-Horus’. But in the south the creation story was based upon ‘the number eight (8)’ [the Ogdoad] and the triad became known as ‘Amun-Mut-Khons’ [var. Khons, Chons, Monthu]. And because today we know the story from the northern Egyptian perspective, the actual truth about the more dominant Theban triad has been suppressed. Due to the northern creation story, the name of Seth, the third son of Adam and Eve, of which also dominated Theban history has been demonized.

    Whenever the Thebans did form against the north in early times they always won and for this reason they became written as ‘the evil Seth’ who killed Osiris. Included in the northern creation story was mockery. The goddess ‘Nephthys’ [Thys-Syth; Seth or Phoenician-Seth girl] was the counterpart of Seth and they were written to be ‘in a loveless marriage’. But in the south, this ideology was not broadcasted. However, the most ominous times when the Thebans became exploited happened during the 18th Dynasty and this treachery continued off and on throughout times due to the presence of the Gomers [Eguptas/Khety]. And a closer look at an earlier time might shed some light on this deception.

    Memphis, the Capitol

    All of the names involved in the pre-flood creation stories and their triads actually have much earlier roots and are a variation with respect to other events that reach back thousands of years to earlier origins. For example the name ‘Atum’ [Muta or Mut; reverse script] was used much earlier than the Ennead themes and even shows roots in South Egypt. Mankind kept rewriting history with respect to times and conquest. But words will testify for or against themselves when placed in context. One word that helps to bridge a gap of confusion would be the name of the Capitol ascribed to Amen-the-Unifier when he became victorious over the north of Egypt [Lower Egypt]. He moved his Capitol from Upper Egypt further north near the headwaters of the Delta to be in proximity of both the north and the south. Although it has been ‘hidden history’, the actual name of his Capitol was NOT ‘Memphis’ meaning ‘the White House’! Deception has been made with regards to this term. Based upon the very name of Amen [also known as Menes], truth unfolds.

    The actual name of his Capitol was more correctly called ‘MEN-NEFER’ meaning ‘the Beautiful City of MENES’[var. ‘the Beneficent City of Menes; beneficial/good, NEFER/Benefer...]. It does not mean ‘the White House’. A deliberate lie based upon the very essence of the plight between the north and the south becomes evident. The northern Egyptians hated Menes. The recent explanation of the ‘the letter n’ explained as being an obstruction to the word ‘Memphis’ in regards to the name of Menes has no basis. After he died and the Thebans became suppressed again, the name of the Capitol came to mean ‘Memphis’ or ‘the White House’. The 5th Dynasty wanted nothing to do with the memory of Amen. It was not until after the flood and when the 6th Dynasty formed that the name ‘Menefer’ became known again for, the descendants of Ham [Mizriam] honored Amen [Menes]. And after this dynasty ended, the name Menefer was done away with again! Although the 12th Dynasty honored Menes [Ammenemes pharaohs], the name of the city was not brought up until the formation of the 18th Dynasty, a time period of over hundreds of years [from the 6th -to- 18th dynasties]. At this time, the Capitol became known as ‘Menefer-Pepy’ in commemoration of both Amen and the founder of the 6th Dynasty, Pepy I. A few accounts say, it remained as such for thousands of years. However, it was during the 18th Dynasty that deception began to set in at a more formidable fashion.

    The founding brothers of the 18th Dynasty, Kamoses and Ahmoses, were Thebans but when they died, they had no heir. So, the next king was ‘a foreigner’ and assumed the throne byway of marriage! This new line adopted the name of ‘Moses’ and thus began ‘the Tutmosis line’. They were Egyptians and their origins were from the east [Egupta]. And Egyptians always and eventually elevate the goddess Ashteroth [white women]. They did not consider themselves Thebans but they assumed the throne and eventually they made serious attempts to wipe out the ancient Theban triad and priesthood. Although they took on the name of ‘Amen’ [Amenhotep pharaohs] they rejected the Theban god ‘Amun’. One pharaoh even changed his name from Amenophis [also known as Amenhotep] to become known as Akhenaten proving that they had no intentions to even respect the life of Amen [Menes] nor Imhotep! When he assumed the throne, he continued the works of his father Amenhotep III and, he outlawed the Theban religion. He also closed the temple and made a law that all had to worship his new religion. He drained the treasuries of Egypt and Nubia and forced the enslaved Thebans in the south to build a new city while he forced the Syrian [including the Israelite] slaves in the north to build another city.

    The Worship of Aten

    The new city built up in the central desert parts of Egypt was written today to be known as ‘Tel el-Armarna’ but, this too is deception. Based upon the religion, the kind of women elevated in the 18th Dynasty and the diplomatic bonds made with the white Greeks of major areas such as Mitanni, Mycenae and Athens, this city was linked to the very name of the new religion called ‘THE ATEN’. This city was meant to be another ‘ATHENS’ in Egypt. It was ‘the city of Athens’ in Egypt. According to modern historians, this city was made to have roads, ‘a king’s highway’ that stretched specifically to the Great Sea [Mediterranean Sea] and its sea ports to facilitate the Greek cities, Turkey and etc. for trade relations. But soon, the Thebans became reformed and retook control of their lands again. Akhenaton disappeared and his young son, the Boy King Tut, assumed the throne. His name was changed from Tutankhaten to Tutankhamen. But even after the Boy king’s sudden death and the eventual end of the 18th Dynasty, the Theban way of life was still exploited.

    The 19th Dynasty kings were also Egyptians and even though the great king Ramesses II was acclaimed by many, deception still remained in the land of Thebes. All of a sudden, these Egyptians decided to take on the name of ‘Seth’. They also did something else that had never happened before. They were able to erect the gods of North Egypt in the south and in the ancient gravesites of the Thebans. By this time in history, the old Memphis god Ptah was linked to their Osiris theme hence the term ‘Ptah-Osiris’ and it was the Ramesses pharaohs that set up their ancient gods in the south and elevated their gods over the Theban god Seth. The three gods erected at the famous Abu Simbel along with the statue of Ramesses II was Ptah, Harakhty [var. Hera-Khety] and Amun-Re. Even though the very name of Thebes means ‘the house of Seth’, Seth was out! It was not until after the end of this dynasty and the beginning of the 20th Dynasty that the Theban priesthood became strong again. And according to the Bible, the Israelites were not blessed to bond with the Egyptians until that time of which was the time of Solomon, more than 400 years later after the Exodus.

    The Egyptians wanted nothing to do with Amen, Amun, Seth, Nephthys, Imhotep, Noah... unless it was a time to exploit. Even though the post-flood Egyptians were descendants of Seth, they broke off from Noah and clung to eastern traditions . . . until it was time to exploit. The Thebans were always preyed upon. Today, the old city of Menefer-Pepy is not called ‘Memphis’ but, it is called ‘Cairo’ [var. Qa‘hiro; Hero City or, the Victorious city]. . . . And the Nubians in Elephantine have an enduring saga.

    “Seth and Nephthys were sterile, but he fertile Osiris and Isis were the prototype for the Egyptian royal family; Osiris, king of Egypt …Isis then gave birth to Horus, a posthumously conceived son of Osiris whose name was the same as that of the solar falcon-god at Edfu.” pg 42.http://www.amazon.com/History-Ancient-Egypt-Nicolas-Grimal/dp/0631193960

    Ramses II and Ramses III appear to have given Ptah special treatment within their mortuary temples. These temples are dedicated to Amun-Re and the deified king; however Ptah is represented numerous times in various forms in both. This paper will discuss the extent of the inclusion of Ptah within these mortuary temples . . . http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/7/5/9/0/p175903_index.htm

    http://www.mythome.org/creategy.html
    http://touregypt.net/godsofegypt/ogdoad.htm
    http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/creation.htm
    http://www.touregypt.net/asimbelram.htm
     
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    smh... Ahmose didn't have any heirs, sister where do you get your info from???


    Brothers

    Ahmose: Eldest King’s Son. Known from a statue in the Louvre. It is possible that this Prince would in time rule as King Ahmose. It is also possible that this is an older brother of the same name.
    Binpu: King’s Son
    Ahmose Sipair: King’s Son. Appears on several monuments. This prince may have been the father of King Thutmosis I.

    Sisters

    Ahmose Nefertari: King’s Great Wife, King’s Daughter, King’s Sister, King’s Mother, God’s Wife of Amun, and Second Priest(ess) of Amun.
    Ahmose Henuttamehu: King’s Wife, King’s Daughter and King’s Sister.
    Ahmose: King’s Daughter and King’s Sister. She was the daughter of Sekenenre Tao and Queen Sitdjehuty, and hence a half-sister of King Ahmose.
    Ahmose Henutemipet: King’s Daughter and King’s Sister.
    Ahmose Tumerisy: King’s Daughter and King’s Sister.
    Ahmose Nebetta: King’s Daughter and King’s Sister. Known from a statue identifying her as King’s daughter, King’s sister, daughter of Ahhotep , King’s wife (of Sekenenre-Taa),
    (Ahmose-)Meryetamun: King’s Daughter and King’s Sister.

    Sons:

    Amenhotep (I)
    Ahmose-ankh: First King’s Son. Son of Ahmose and Ahmose-Nefertari.
    Siamun: King’s Son
    Ramose: King’s Son. Probably son of Ahmose

    Daughters:

    Meryetamun: King’s Great Wife, King’s Daughter, King’s Sister, God’s Wife of Amun. Meryetamun married her brother Ahmose. Buried in TT358.
    Sitamun: God’s Wife, King’s Sister, King’s Daughter.
    Mutnofret: King’s Mother, King’s Wife, King’s Sister, King’s Daughter. Her titles indicate that she was most likely the daughter of King Ahmose, the sister of Amenhotep I, and became the wife of Thutmosis I who may have been her cousin.
     
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    What!? Did you read it?

    That's what I said!!!
     
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    Sister yes I read hat you posted, but because you said it does not make it the truth;
    In truth the bloodline of the 18th dynasty was all in the family until the the Death of King Tut and his wife married the Vizer AY. who became King by marrying Queen Ankhesanamum. Sister, I just want you to know the truth thats all, I think you have some good ideas I'm just trying to help you in your studies O.K. ;)
    -peace.
     
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    I hope that you won't jump to conclusions on me and give me a chance as you have done this morning. I really appreciate your words.

    I never said the 18th Dynasty was not 'all in the family' but, as you hinted at the first time, Ahmose and Kamoses did NOT have any heirs. As I did say, the TUTMOSIS man assumed the throne by marriage.

    I do appreciate your kindness and words of sincerity. Thank you.

    I hope you understand that in the previous post, I did say that I know my research needs to be confirmed. I'm not trying to be definite about certain research because I feel like it might be somewhate controversial.

    Peace.
     
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    decipherx1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    We are both right sister, Thutmoses did marry into the family
    bloodline,
    but Ahmose did have sons, so we art both right.:)

    The children of Ahmose
    Merytamun - eldest daughter of Ahmose-Nefertari (died young)
    Tair - daughter of Kasmut
    Satamun - 2nd daughter of Ahmose-Nefertari (died infant)
    Sapair - eldest son of Ahmose-Nefertari (died young)
    Saamen - 2nd son of Ahmose-Nefertari (died infant)
    Aahotep - 3rd daughter of Ahmose-Nefertari (Queen)
    Amenhotep I - 3rd son of Ahmose-Nefertari (King)
    Satkames - 4th daughter of Ahmose-Nefertari (died aged ~30)
    Henttameh- daughter of Thenthapi
    Ahmose - daughter
     
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    Great Topic

    This the article used a little biblical reference I'm going to use a lot more to show how the biblical stories is really a story about Set, Nut and Geb.

    This has been covered before on this site if I'm not mistaken but its a good topic. Set was not an evil deity in ancient Upper Km.t (Southern Egypt) but was demonized by those who which to distort history. Set also known as Seth was the supposed 3 son of Adam and Eve just as he was the 3 child of Nut and Geb. Seth was supposed to be the 3 and holy child of Adam and Eve which is again the story of Geb and Nut (Adam and Eve).

    Geb represents the Earth just like Adam[ah]. The word Adamah means land which is what Adam was created from. Adam is the representation of earth because that's what his body is (humanity or humans physical body is comprised of earths elements). The word Adamah also means husband which is the representation of the masculine Adam. Nevertheless, biblically Adam is male and females so Geb represents humanity. Nut represents the sky which is to say 'wind', ' breath' aka spirit biblically. Eve (Chavah - pronounced ka`fa) means life bringer and without the wind man (aka Adam - Humanity - male and females) could not have life or create life. According the the first Christians which were Gnostic (Egyptians) Eve was the Wisdom herself and transformed herself into a serpent. Remember Eve's Hebrew name is Chavah pronounced Ka`fa is liken to the ancient Km.t/Kemetic Kefa who was the sacred serpent often times called the Kundalini in India theology. She's (Eve) the spirit (spirit by definition is wind aka sky) Nut. She enters and exit our bodies with every breath thus Eve was taken from Adams rib which is to say lungs under the ribs at every breath.

    When Geb (Adam/humanity/male & female) and Nut (Eve/sky/wind/spirit) came together they created their third child Set or Seth who held the essence of humanity and spirit. Set/Seth or Sat, represents a people and as we know when you are speaking of people they usually add and [an] at the end of the word. The Kemetic word 'Set[an]' means 'royal' but the English word 'Satan' mean opponent or opposes. The Upper Egyptians (Southern Egyptians) opposed the northern Egyptians and thus the battle between the Uncle Set (older) Southern Egyptians against the Nephew Heru (younger - invaders) Northern Egyptians took place. The South lost and thus Set/Seth was made to be the bad guy in all of modern and ancient mythologies. Remember the first time that Satan was mentioned was in 1 Chronicles 21:1 but never before then.

    Satan was a military power that caused David to number his people. Menmaatre Seti I was a dominate military man that didn't play but he was from the south which is where Set or Seth was worshiped. King David as I will abbreviate because they didn't use vowels was 'DvD' which is interchangeable with the 'TwT' a Northern Egyptian Pharaoh. King David often spoke about Zion which is actually the ancient Egyptian city Zoan currently called Cairo, Egypt.

    I've done an extensive study on the Hebrew patriarchs and the 18th dynasty Lower Egyptian (Northern Egypt) Pharaohs and they are one and the same. That's a different study for a different day but the point that I making here is that King David was an 18th Dynasty pharaoh and Menmaatre Seti I was a 19th Dynasty Pharaoh. The power shifted back to Set/Seth and biblical he was demonized through the suggestion that the Hebrews were enslaved by the follower of Set & Ra (Ra`mesis/moses and his father Seti).

    Heru represents the Eagle which is why the American flag is represented by the Eagle as they try to emulate the ancient Northern Kemetic invading peoples. Please note that I am not suggesting that Heru wasn't ours because he was without a second thought ours. The American people try to emulate those who conquer but as history repeats itself until people wake up, the south will prevail again.

    Set like Anubis was seen as bad by the moderns and many of us have fallen victim to there fault ideologies not paying attention to the fact that Anubis is always sitting on an ark which is proposed to be the holy writings protecting them with his ear shot straight up in the air. Set was once known as the protector of Ra/Re - ...

    We have to re-evaluate Kemetic history as well because even that was handed to us improperly.

    Peace


    Ru2religious
     
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    Another story goes Ausar slept w/ Nepthys Set wife which is why he got mad and chopped him up into 14 pieces his penis was never found.
    Which is where the Tekhen came from.
    The Bible story was written 1000 yrs after Kemetic the story of Ausar and Isis. Yes, Set was considered a Good God then he was considered evil , when the Anu people split into two groups: The Ta Merus and Ta Seti.
    Then at later times Seti the 1st took over Egypt from the South and his son Ramses the 2 brought him to the forefront again.
    Can someone so me proof WHERE Set and Seth are the same people?
    And Nut is Eve??? It's pic Everywhere of Nut above tombs that she is the Mother of the Universe which Ra'a Passes through her Mouth and comes out her womb, and the Kemtians showed this time after time again in their history, this has nothing to do w/ the bible, Nut and Eve are 2 diffrent people. And Adam was not Geb.


    You:King David was an 18th Dynasty pharaoh and Menmaatre Seti I was a 19th Dynasty Pharaoh.

    ME: Are you serious? King David wasn't even born then???
     
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    Well done. Yes. I do remember this now that you mention it. I do remember it being said the sons died young.
     
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    You have brought up some great topics. I'm going to have to digest some of this though.

    I can't figure out if you are saying that Seth is negative or not. I have to re-read this.

    You threw me though, on your 18th dynasty--King David issue.

    If you composed a general timeline you will see that there is a huge difference in time periods between the two.
     
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