Black People : Serena Williams comments on Africa

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  1. OldSoul

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    NOTE: We rarely get to hear from the Williams Sisters about how they feel about themselves and life beyond the tennis court. We get the impression from corporate media that they are just two musclebound Black women out for the glamor and bling. few of us knwo, for example, that they speak fluent French or have a strong sense of the pervasiveness of racism. However,
    in this Karen Crouse report in the NY Times, we get a glimpse of this 25 year old Black woman's keen awareness of racism and her ability to channel her antiracism rage into "tennis energy."
    This article also shows- in the last couple of paragraphs -how Crouse and the Times try to trivialize the Williams family's awareness of and dissatisfaction of the normalcy of racist hate.
    Black youth need to know that beyond the Power Tennis, Bling and Hi Fashions the Williams Sisters are growing more conscious about the racist realities that not only impact upon them but all of Blackfolk... wherever we are on this planet.

    Excerpted from the NY TIMES 27 March 2007

    ...[SERENA] Williams was delighted to win as emphatically as she did. With every stroke, she seemed to be issuing a rebuttal to those who openly wondered if her 6-1, 6-2 victory against Sharapova in the Australian Open final had been a fluke.

    “I think a lot of people might have thought it was a one-off,” said Williams, who played in only four tournaments in 2006 because of injuries. “I don’t know anyone who’s won eight Grand Slams and had so many doubters in their lives. I guess just me.” She laughed ruefully. “It’s O.K.”

    Williams can play the media as if they were another opponent, showing humility, hostility, humor, warmth, eloquence and indifference all in one 15-minute interview. The chip on her shoulder is not an affectation but another accessory, along with the heavy hoop earrings and gaudy gold jewelry and designer handbags, that she seldom leaves home without.

    She uses every slight — real and perceived — to her advantage, channeling her feelings of hurt and rage into her tennis.

    Williams’s sense of being a perpetual outsider despite everything she has achieved in tennis was driven home to her Monday afternoon in her match against Lucie Safarova when a heckler in the stands peppered his diatribe with a racially derogatory term.

    The fan was escorted from the grounds, but not before everybody within earshot got a sense of how discomfiting it can be to walk in Williams’s sneakers. Her sense of alienation bubbled to the surface Tuesday when she was asked about a trip she took last year to Africa.

    Williams, who was born in Michigan and raised in California and Florida, toured Senegal’s Goree Island on the west coast and visited impoverished villages in Ghana as part of a Unicef delegation.

    “When we first landed, we had a layover in Nigeria, and I couldn’t wait,” Williams said. “I wanted to get out of the plane and just take off my shoes and start running and never come back because I just felt at home and at ease.

    “I mean, I’ve never felt so comfortable physically and just like mentally,” she added. “I can’t even explain it. It’s like this whole aura that just surrounds you. That’s just how I felt. I’ve never been in a place where I felt happier ever.”

    Williams’s voice, which had been a monotone when she was talking about tennis, grew more animated as she talked about opening a school in Senegal on land donated by the nation’s president, Abdoulaye Wade, whom she met.

    “If I can provide one kid with hope,” Williams said, “even if it’s just one person, it makes a whole big difference in life.”

    In the hallway outside the interview room, Williams’s father and coach, Richard, talked about how sad it was that his daughter should feel more at home abroad, but he said he was not surprised. “Americans here don’t think we are Americans,” he said.

    “If we are Americans, we sure aren’t treated like it,” he added. “Rats, roaches, even rabbits are treated better than we are here.”

    When he was done speaking, Richard Williams walked out to the players’ valet parking area and, surrounded by luxury sedans and expensive sports cars, he lighted a cigarillo and smoked it.
     
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    while its good she offered some comforting words concerning the mothaland, i'm not sure i can understand how channeling racism anger against her into "tennis energy" helps the Afrikan collective.

    i think sometimes we kinda get too caught up with celebrities that often time we dont want to admit, they not down with the masses. i mean many may argue 'so what she said something good about Africa.' anybody can talk. in fact, we can take a european woman, actaully two, who did more to show how they feel for Afrika: angelina jolie and madonna who adopted black children.

    we have to refrain from knee jerk reactions jus becuz these celebrities be talking. lets determine where their heads and hearts are by what they do, and not what they say.

    now, am i saying that celebrities cannot become conscious? of course not. but chances are to be fully conscious, yu will be forced to let the otha lifestyle go. serena will have to sacrifice her tennis career becuz once she starts doing what needs to be done for the struggle, they not gon be calling her for matches anyways-and she knows it. her father knows it. we know it. and the words of the biblical scriptures will ring true: yu cannot serve two masters. this is winfrey's problem. she wants to be conscious and serve the masses, while still being down with her eurpoean women targeted audiences.

    she cant do both.

    i know some of us dont like to hear this, but its true. many of yu who have been in the struggle knows how often times yor famly and friends have left yu. so jus imagine what european capitalist(endorsements) will do if serena says 'bump it, oprah opened up a school for girls, i'mma open up school for both boys and girls and will not allow one european to register.' that's consciousness. not this,'yea, i went to africa and i felt right at home, unlike they make me feel in america. but i'mma show them white people how angry i am by keep winning tennis matches. that's show'em.'

    that's not consciousness. heck, we all feel that way. and so does that make us conscious. hell, kanye west was more conscious by confronting bush during the katrina situation. but of course, like serena, they talk but show no words. or, like oprah, she does actions, but her actions comes with fears, which basically makes her action, no matter how well-intentioned, null and void.
     
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    You do both ... you call Black People coons, and claim to be a warrior ... so she can do some both as well.


    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    I have long been "fan" of Serena, and have tried not to hold her relationship with Brett Ratner against her.

    So, I have followed her "progress" for many years, while making some keen observations of my own. I admit to holding some "sentimentality" for Serena and Venus, who both grew up in the same cities that I began teaching (Compton and Lynwood).

    Watching serena's progress, in particular, has been quite interesting.

    I noticed how she started slipping hwen she changed sponsorships from Puma to Nike. I also noticed the effect it had on her game when her parents split. For a while, Richard Williams was not even present at many of her matches, and in several in which she got "injured" I noticed he was not there, even though Oracene was present.

    The point here is that it seems as if Serena''s recent "comeback" is evidently marked also with Richard Williams again playing a more pivotal role in her career. I noticed also, in her recent tournament, that she has gone back to her NATURAL haircolor.:toast:

    And even though she obviously is having some mobility problems, obvious knee problems, Richard has been there giving specific advice, while staying clear of the media, for the most part. And Serena is now again ranked in the Top 20.

    I have the same OPINION of Serena as I do Oprah. Any work they do in the area of helping Black kids, "at home or abroad" is more commendble than those who are doing far less.

    There is something going on here that black folk like Serena and Oprah SEE when they travel around the globe, which has to weigh on their conscious greatly at times. Especially as many times as Serena has been to Paris and played in the French Open. I am sure its similar to what my daughter has seen when going to Spain.

    A world of Black folks, many of whom are very African-centered, who IDOLIZE these Black women, and see them as LEADERS. And who expect more from them.

    This is a good sign that Serena is "coming around".

    if so. peace be unto her.
     
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    Sister Destee, what is wrong with you?

    Is this how you want to stand as an example of a good poster?

    "You do both ... you call Black People coons, and claim to be a warrior ... so she can do some both as well."

    That is the first post from you I have not felt since I came here...

    If you have some personal dispute with Bro. Silten-Ra must you joust it out here?

    One.

    ~Ikoro
     
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    Thank you for posting that information on Serena Williams. There was a time where black celebrities wouldn't dare mention how much they loved any part of Africa or in a around about way calling Africa home like she did, in public. To make a statement like "taking your shoes of and start running and never coming back?" That sound like someone that is trying to escape white oppression. It is what our ancestors wanted to do for hundreds of years but couldn't. Many people with her resouces are afraid to speak of running anywhere but to the bank. The sister has potential to have an great impact upon social change. It is imporatant for Africans in America to take interest in the motherland. Today it may be a school. Tomorrow it may be the politics that runs the country. Then possibly the people that have exploited mother Africa for her wealth. This can be a step in a positive direction for all victims of european colonialization. . The spirit of our oppressed ancestors spoke to us through her for those who were were listening. It sounded to me like playing in a international sport, having alot of money and all that comes with that, having a white mate, doesn't change the fact that we are still connected by blood and spirit to our ancestors. Even if our public appearance and behavior doesn't reflect resistance the potential is still there if someone finds that button......and pushes it.
     
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    plez understand i'm not tryna pick on people. i'm jus tryna get some of us to stop giving out free passes to celebrities who know betta, but is not doing betta.

    yu wrote that when serena said that in the mothaland, it makes her feel like:

    "taking your shoes of and start running and never coming back?" That sound like someone that is trying to escape white oppression.

    but she did come back didn't she? and not only did she come back, she came back with a deeper vision and a stronger energy to play a more intense tennis game against the people she suggests she despises, while going home to sleep with a european descendant. what did she come back with that could help the afrikan collective?

    yu also wrote:

    There was a time where black celebrities wouldn't dare mention how much they loved any part of Africa or in a around about way calling Africa home like she did, in public. this again goes to the point of uys giving out free passes to people jus becuz they mention something about Afrika. so does this really make someone conscious? now, while yor thinking about that, think about this. some months ago jay z and beyonse went to the motha land. they got all afrikanized down with their clothing and the whole nine yards. but upon their return, neither entertainer changed the flava of their music, beyonce is talking hoochie stuff and jay z still calling for his n-i-g-g-a-z and b-tch-s.

    so, based on yor litmus test for cosciousness, should they too get free passes for consciousness?

    yu wrote:

    Many people with her resouces are afraid to speak of running anywhere but to the bank. and that includes serena. rememba, otha than her words, which apparently has pleased many folk, serena has not used her finances for radical change. she wants to take her frustration out on the tennis court.

    now, if yall telling me she got a european boyfriend, i dont even see why we having this discussion in the first place.

    but continuing, yu wrote too:

    The spirit of our oppressed ancestors spoke to us through her for those who were were listening. how yu figure? how yu figure that our ancestors would speak to a afrikan woman who shares a bed with a european man about helping liberate afrikan people?

    the last thing i would like to address is when yu wrote:

    The sister has potential to have an great impact upon social change.

    i agree with yu. so does jay z. so does beyonce. so does chris rock. so does a prostitute. so does a pimp. so does a brotha who pulls the trigger against anotha brotha. all people who are lost have the within them the possibility for change and correct consciousness. but this is where people are getting misdirected at and what they dont wanna believe:

    everybody dont wanna be saved.

    we have to stop getting all excited and mushy becuz some celebrity said "africa is a nice place" and then we write long articles on how this person is becoming conscious. like i said, and i may get smacked for this, but i have more respect for madonna and angelina jolie than i do fo serena, beyonce, winfrey and jayz. these european women flipped it on all them and said, 'while yall (rich african americans) talking and doing sound bites deceiving yor own communities, i'mma adopt one of yor own.' and we wonder why some of our people in the mothaland questions our sincerity towards them

    name me one rich, 'black' celebrity who has adopted an afrikan child? crickets in background.

    this hammer is not for yu, but for us all:hammer:
     
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    Silent-Ra: The next time Mr. Neely Fuller, Jr. is in chat I suggest you go and listen to him. It's painfully obvious that you do not understand the affectiveness and deeply penetrating impact of Racism/White Supremacy.

    ALL of us are affected by it. No one is exempt.

    By the way, how Black is Black? What are the requirements for a "pass" on Blackness?

    Family: I support Oprah, the Williams sisters, Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan and others for what they do to the psyche of America and the world. No matter how affective Racism/White Supremacy is...no matter how devious White folks can be...no matter how malicious and conniving they can be...we always rise to the top. And they (Oprah, et. al.) remind White folks of that every day of their lives. This is what Black people can do and will do if given the opportunity...and for that, I say Ashe.
     
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    Man, if she can win eight tournaments on a fluke imagine what she could do if she really tried.:D

    She is opening a school. Some people would say that she should open one in America. I notice these people aren't opening any schools anywhere and they are not lifting a finger to help her. Some people would say that she is wrong to channel her anger. I have read the Instructions of Ptah-Hotep, the 42 Precepts of Ma'at, the 11 Laws of God, the Emerald Tablets of Thoth and the Bible. The Bible is the only one where unbridled anger is praised as not only a human virtue but an attribute of God. So I applaud Serena for excercizing self control in the way that works for her (playing tennis) while using her resources to educate our people.

    Today's racism is subtle. We need to be even more subtle if we are to rise as a people. Don't let the youra peeings know nothing. Because they already know how they are.
     
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    let me state that i neva said that our dear Brotha Fuller's words are worthless, like "Oprah, the Williams sisters, Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan and others..." i'm jus saying that yu have already lost the battle if yu think that white racism is the main impediment to afrikan liberation.

    what does white racism have to do with the arabs occupying virtually all of northern Alkebulan, including one of our holy lands Kemet?

    what does white supremacy have to do with how the chinese government are treating our people in Zambia? And do yu have any idea of what they are doing in the Sudan?

    yu write that:

    No matter how affective Racism/White Supremacy is...no matter how devious White folks can be...no matter how malicious and conniving they can be...we always rise to the top. And they (Oprah, et. al.) remind White folks of that every day of their lives. This is what Black people can do and will do if given the opportunity...and for that, I say Ashe.

    that may sound good, but it means nothing in the real world. how in the world does winfrey "remind White folks" that "we always rise to the top"? she's not doing anything radical my friend. and what she is doing is based on a eurocentric model known as feminism: building only one school for girls only, while aloowing privilege children of european descent to enter. how is that beneficial to the collective? and nobosy eva stopped to consider how that makes the young men feel in south africa. they feel marginalzied, disenfranchised and neglected-jus like their african american counterparts. so then, we see winfrey's jus extending the madness to the motha land.

    winfrey is not indicative of conscious progress. no, instead winfrey demonstrates how europeans laughingly can bestow billionaire status upon 'black' americans, and still they wouldn't know, or be too scared to get radical with the money they believed they earned.

    winfrey's status demonstrates failure, not success.

    see, what yu doing is defining, like euros, success based on monetary gain, glitter and political showcasing. and yet yu say: "This is what Black people can do and will do if given the opportunity."

    they have the opportunity, and they did/do nothing.

    tell us, where was yor ensemble of characters "Oprah, the Williams sisters, Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan and others..." when it came to the Katrina situation. winfrey did a little showcasing. but that's it. and also, where are they now on that issue? do i hear crickets?

    let me tell yu, jus becuz yu have not being seeing the tragedy on television, doesnt mean tragedy is not working in the lives of the Katrina victims.

    some of yall are so stuck on celebrity, that yu cannot even see the danger right before yor own eyes.

    yu all ova tiger and serena, and neither said a word about the katrina victims. hmmm. could it be becuz they may offend their european lovers and endorsers? or, will yu tell us it doesn't matter, they can still be fully conscious?

    d-am-n yall, when will we learn? why cant we study what it is that's keepin us from the logic connect? why does it seems that we cant see the simple things?

    all the celebrities that yu drool ova refused to stand up for us when we were at our lowest in new oreleans. they needed help. we all seen them on the rooftops begging for help. yu heard about the babies dying and yu seen the bodies floating down the city streets. we know aboout the homeless and how they are traveling here and there with still no signs of normalcy in their lives. now, how in all that's holy can yu turn around and not call them out on that?

    how can yu sit here and rationalize that type of blatant, neglect? what is it in yu that would cause yu to rationalize away the pain and suffering of yor people? how can yu tell us that this is a logical response, to ignore Afrikan suffering with all that yu have economically at yor disposal jus becuz some celebrity said she felt at home in afrika?

    how will we answer to the Goddesses and Gods for that type of behavior?

    let us pray for common sense.
     
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